Ren'Py Kamogawa Island [v0.1a] [Fragolina Studio]

[outgo1171]

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[th3n]

Hello everyone, this is Fragolina Studio, the developer behind Kamogawa Island.

First, I honestly didn't know there was a thread about my game, and I'm overjoyed that people are discussing it. This is my first game, so it means the world to me that others besides myself are actually playing it.

Second, I've read your concerns and will try to address them here:

NTR: The main heroines (Jessie, Vanessa, Zoe, and Emmie) are intended as the main character's harem. Side characters like Nadeko are separate from the main character and may have NTR, swinging, or sharing scenarios. However, since they are side characters, their stories are not required to progress with the main heroines, so you can easily skip them if that's not your preference. Kamogawa Island is designed to be a place of hedonistic desires, and a strictly vanilla story felt too out of place for the setting, which is why the side heroines exist. Also, they are a stranger to the main character.

Game Compression: I plan to compress the renders to reduce the game's overall size, and I hope this helps.

Bugs: As this is my first game, I thoroughly tested it myself but didn't encounter the bugs some of you have mentioned. My top priority is to fix these bugs and deliver a more polished version of this initial release. After that, I'll create a roadmap detailing the content I plan to add.

I hope you can understand my situation, and again, thank you so much for playing my game. Discovering this thread has truly made my day. I'll do my best to repay your support with a more polished release as soon as possible!

Thanks a lot for the answer! But i think i prefer just to skip the game itself. Best of lucks!

 

[GORDONlife6]

on VR ?

 

[outgo1171]

on VR ?

There is no VR function in this game.

 

[Abagofbabies]

Why does it feel like every new "harem" game has optional NTR now, like I don't care that this Island is about hedonistic desires why bother wasting time rendering cuck scenes for side characters and ruining any desire to interact with that characters content, why not just make all sex scenes involve only the MC including the side characters, there's literally no reason to add NTR content other than hoping to get money from the NTR crowd, it doesn't have to be "vanilla" it's not like we don't know that most girls on the island probably all sleep around, but that doesn't mean someone needs to hear about it or see it. Really wish all these new devs would just pick a lane and stick to it, if you want to make an NTR game then make one, if you want to make an Harem/Vanilla game then make one, but stop picking this half assed middle ground where I'm not gonna touch 50% of the game because this "optional" NTR eventually cultivates A mostly NTR audience and now the dev suddenly feels the need to continue to add more of that content and completely forgets that it was only supposed to be A small fraction of the game.

 

[L U C Y]

there's literally no reason to add NTR content other

Honestly it feels like some of you guys have 3 brain cells and two of them are fighting each-other to decide which porn you will jerk off today

Have you figured out that maybe, just maaaybe, A side character is not you lover and neither the main focus/needed for the game? And the dev didn't mention those were going to be LI's of the MC or whatever

Are you that afraid of someone else fucking a fictional character in a 2D game

 

[th3n]

Honestly it feels like some of you guys have 3 brain cells and two of them are fighting each-other to decide which porn you will jerk off today

Have you figured out that maybe, just maaaybe, A side character is not you lover and neither the main focus/needed for the game? And the dev didn't mention those were going to be LI's of the MC or whatever

Are you that afraid of someone else fucking a fictional character in a 2D game

And he is saying if its not the focus and is not needed in the game why put it in the game? Its just waste renders.

 

[Abagofbabies]

Honestly it feels like some of you guys have 3 brain cells and two of them are fighting each-other to decide which porn you will jerk off today

Have you figured out that maybe, just maaaybe, A side character is not you lover and neither the main focus/needed for the game? And the dev didn't mention those were going to be LI's of the MC or whatever

Are you that afraid of someone else fucking a fictional character in a 2D game

Did you ever think that not every fetish under the sun should be thrown into a game, especially when some those fetishes are out right opposed to the other and are obviously going to cause contention with people, also it's nice how you didn't even bother to do anything but personal insults instead of, I don't know ignore me, have and actual argument or maybe just actually read what I wrote and don't make wierd ass assumptions of other people, I literally made my views crystal clear, no shit the side characters aren't the main focus I never said they were, I said why bother wasting rendering time on scenes that aren't even what your main audience wants other that trying to get money out of those who like NTR. I also never said anything about them being the main love interests of the MC? And about the whole being afraid of 2d characters fucking, this may come as shock to you, but it's called A preference, not everyone likes the same thing especially when it comes to porn, I don't like NTR the same way I don't like scat, guro, vore etc. You know like every person on the planet. Instead of trying to insult other peoples intelligence maybe work on improving yours first including your reading comprehension.

 

[outgo1171]

Did you ever think that not every fetish under the sun should be thrown into a game, especially when some those fetishes are out right opposed to the other and are obviously going to cause contention with people, also it's nice how you didn't even bother to do anything but personal insults instead of, I don't know ignore me, have and actual argument or maybe just actually read what I wrote and don't make wierd ass assumptions of other people, I literally made my views crystal clear, no shit the side characters aren't the main focus I never said they were, I said why bother wasting rendering time on scenes that aren't even what your main audience wants other that trying to get money out of those who like NTR. I also never said anything about them being the main love interests of the MC? And about the whole being afraid of 2d characters fucking, this may come as shock to you, but it's called A preference, not everyone likes the same thing especially when it comes to porn, I don't like NTR the same way I don't like scat, guro, vore etc. You know like every person on the planet. Instead of trying to insult other peoples intelligence maybe work on improving yours first including your reading comprehension.

I believe some of your arguements are right, just like yourself, I personally don't like games which border on NTR when it comes across as vanilla, however, the developer himself states that:

• "You won’t find NTR involving the main heroines: Kamogawa Island is a place overflowing with hedonistic desires-flirting, sharing, and swinging may occur with side characters, but the main cast of heroines is meant to be interpreted as your harem."

He justifies the other side characters being added to explore other kinks such as vouyerism, sharing and/or swinging, but this doesn't necessarily mean it is NTR. The side characters are meant to be enjoyed by people who like those sort of things and are optional in your playthrough; meaning you don't ever have to interact with them in your playthrough to progress. They are intended to have the least amount of content in comparison to the main heroines. In addition to this, they are strangers to the MC, so the only way for it to be considered NTR, is if you consider them to be love interests - which they are not. The developer isn't doing this for money by catering to certain audiences, he just wants to produce a game for people of all sorts to enjoy. For your information, they initially did intend the game to be vanilla/lovey-dovey, however the setting that the game takes place doesn't make sense for it to be entirely vanilla. I believe that the developer has the creative right to choose how they want their game to be. The developer has understood and apologised for the lack of disparity about their game, and will obviously make it clearer in upcoming updates about what the game is about. I understand your concern and arguements about the direction that the game is heading in, and I am sorry that it doesn't fit your criteria. You are in your right to express criticism, however, I believe the better course of action would be to ignore the game entirely if it doesn't suit your standards.

I apologise if the game is not to your liking, but it is what it is. Sometimes its better to move on to greater things!

 

[Abagofbabies]

I believe some of your arguements are right, just like yourself, I personally don't like games which border on NTR when it comes across as vanilla, however, the developer himself states that:

• "You won’t find NTR involving the main heroines: Kamogawa Island is a place overflowing with hedonistic desires-flirting, sharing, and swinging may occur with side characters, but the main cast of heroines is meant to be interpreted as your harem."

He justifies the other side characters being added to explore other kinks such as vouyerism, sharing and/or swinging, but this doesn't necessarily mean it is NTR. The side characters are meant to be enjoyed by people who like those sort of things and are optional in your playthrough; meaning you don't ever have to interact with them in your playthrough to progress. They are intended to have the least amount of content in comparison to the main heroines. In addition to this, they are strangers to the MC, so the only way for it to be considered NTR, is if you consider them to be love interests - which they are not. The developer isn't doing this for money by catering to certain audiences, he just wants to produce a game for people of all sorts to enjoy. For your information, they initially did intend the game to be vanilla/lovey-dovey, however the setting that the game takes place doesn't make sense for it to be entirely vanilla. I believe that the developer has the creative right to choose how they want their game to be. The developer has understood and apologised for the lack of disparity about their game, and will obviously make it clearer in upcoming updates about what the game is about. I understand your concern and arguements about the direction that the game is heading in, and I am sorry that it doesn't fit your criteria. You are in your right to express criticism, however, I believe the better course of action would be to ignore the game entirely if it doesn't suit your standards.

I apologise if the game is not to your liking, but it is what it is. Sometimes its better to move on to greater things!

I appreciate the fact that you're discussing this in good faith and I get what you're saying. On one hand I definitely agree with the fact that yes it's optional and I get the argument that it's to try and cater to as many people as possible and that there won't be any NTR with the main girls, which in theory I can see the appeal of. My main concern is that the more you do this optional content that you know your main audience isn't going to be A fan of, the less content that your main audience has, like take all the work that's going into that optional content and instead put it towards content for your main audience with the main girls or if you absolutely have to have side girls just make them A one and done scene with the MC and leave it at that. I mean I'll agree based on the proper definition it's certainly not NTR if your character doesn't know them, but I bet if you ask people who hate NTR whether or not they like swinging/sharing I imagine you'll get A very mixed response regardles and the only reason why I'm saying it feels like it's only being added for money is simply because of how often it happens on this site, which I'll admit I'm definitely being bias in that regard so it's just my personal feeling on the matter. I also agree that the developer without A doubt has the right to make whatever game they want to make and I'll never tell them they can't, but at the same time this is A forum so I think it's important to make your views known, at the same time I do agree that it definitely better to just move on since I don't think I'm a fan of the direction the game is going and I'll also admit that honestly I'm just getting frustrated that it feels like every single new game coming out is going in the same direction with the optional sharing/ntr stuff, which usually either the leads the games to being either abandoned or having the entire focus of the game shift to what was supposed to be optional content, so a lot of my problem isn't just directed at this dev.

Anyway this discussion could probably go on forever, but I think we both made are views clear enough and as you said I'll probably abstain from this game for the time being and just keep an eye on it for now and see how the development goes. Further down the development line we'll know for sure after all since at the moment it's all speculation anyways.

 

[outgo1171]

I appreciate the fact that you're discussing this in good faith and I get what you're saying. On one hand I definitely agree with the fact that yes it's optional and I get the argument that it's to try and cater to as many people as possible and that there won't be any NTR with the main girls, which in theory I can see the appeal of. My main concern is that the more you do this optional content that you know your main audience isn't going to be A fan of, the less content that your main audience has, like take all the work that's going into that optional content and instead put it towards content for your main audience with the main girls or if you absolutely have to have side girls just make them A one and done scene with the MC and leave it at that. I mean I'll agree based on the proper definition it's certainly not NTR if your character doesn't know them, but I bet if you ask people who hate NTR whether or not they like swinging/sharing I imagine you'll get A very mixed response regardles and the only reason why I'm saying it feels like it's only being added for money is simply because of how often it happens on this site, which I'll admit I'm definitely being bias in that regard so it's just my personal feeling on the matter. I also agree that the developer without A doubt has the right to make whatever game they want to make and I'll never tell them they can't, but at the same time this is A forum so I think it's important to make your views known, at the same time I do agree that it definitely better to just move on since I don't think I'm a fan of the direction the game is going and I'll also admit that honestly I'm just getting frustrated that it feels like every single new game coming out is going in the same direction with the optional sharing/ntr stuff, which usually either the leads the games to being either abandoned or having the entire focus of the game shift to what was supposed to be optional content, so a lot of my problem isn't just directed at this dev.

Anyway this discussion could probably go on forever, but I think we both made are views clear enough and as you said I'll probably abstain from this game for the time being and just keep an eye on it for now and see how the development goes. Further down the development line we'll know for sure after all since at the moment it's all speculation anyways.

I understand your frustrations as well, a lot of games come out that seem very appealing to me, however, the certains kinks they have sort of ruin any interest I have in supporting the project. I appreciate that you're acknowlodging your bias and I can see your concern with the conflicting ideals present within the game. Your views and criticism are always a help to guide the developer in what they should do in regards to game development, as it is also important to build a game depending on your demographic. I have great faith and trust in the developer that they will stick to their original goals and plans for the future of the game going forward.

I'm very happy to extract your issues with the game - it'll be helpful for development! And I also would like to thank you for keeping this conversation polite and civil. And as I've said before, the developer wants to make a game for people to enjoy, so it's always good to have someone speak up for what they feel passionate about!

 

[JohnS2]

I agree, I think the reason the dev included scenes with side characters is to give people that like watching other characters have sex something to look at if they so choose. Still I think the main reason for the knee jerk reaction to the scene in the preview images is because the dev chose to include a black guy which if you've seen/played an ntr game they almost always have a black guy that steals the MC's LI so it's understandable why some people would react negatively to seeing one in a game that is supposed to be more or less vanilla. That said it wouldn't be the first time a dev pulled a bait and switch, but from what I've seen of the content available in the current version of the game that's not the case, hopefully it stays that way.

 

[outgo1171]

I agree, I think the reason the dev included scenes with side characters is to give people that like watching other characters have sex something to look at if they so choose. Still I think the main reason for the knee jerk reaction to the scene in the preview images is because the dev chose to include a black guy which if you've seen/played an ntr game they almost always have a black guy that steals the MC's LI so it's understandable why some people would react negatively to seeing one in a game that is supposed to be more or less vanilla. That said it wouldn't be the first time a dev pulled a bait an switch, but from what I've seen of the content available in the current version of game that 's not the case, hopefully it stays that way.

Definitely a lot of negative stigma due to games that feature that sort of thing. It's a bit sad for people to jump the gun on a game because of things such as a preview, but I understand the cautionary measures they take. I've definitely played my fair share of bait-and-switch games that have honestly made me feel disgusted, and it's my fault for not doing my research beforehand. From my discussions with the developer, they seem like a good person! Very open to ideas and criticism. So I believe wholeheartedly that they'll have integrity in their promises of what the game will and won't have.

 

[Ryux3]

the game seemed very attractive but the fact of the ntr has put me off, I understand that the 3 main heroines do not have ntr but I'm sure that I will end up liking one of the secondary ones more and most likely due to the words that have been written before it has ntr to my misfortune, sincerely I am not going to play a game to see myself in that unpleasant feeling, sincerely I would prefer that the creator clarified when creating a full vanilla or full ntr game because if not these problems end up happening that end up dividing the community, and I do not know an ntr fan but a vanilla fan will never play a game like this even if the secondary characters are the ntr content, so my advice is that you decide that you want the game to be vanilla or ntr because by staying between the two sides the only thing you will do is that the fans of both sides will not be satisfied and abandon the project, a hug and my best wishes to the creator but if the ntr content is not deleted and does not return to the game, do not count on me, a greeting

 

[Fragolina Studio]

But if the ntr content is not deleted and does not return to the game, do not count on me, a greeting

At the current state of the game (version 0.1a), there is not a single mention or inclusion of any NTR scenario involving any of the girls you encounter.

I want to sincerely apologize for any misinformation circulating about NTR being part of the current build. As clearly stated on the itch.io page:

No, you will not find NTR content involving the main heroines.

My intention with the side characters is simply to showcase Kamogawa Island from the perspective of strangers to the main character. I have never stated or implied that I plan to include NTR. While swinging, sharing, orgies, or voyeurism may occur with side characters, these characters remain strangers to the MC and will always have less content compared to the main heroines.

This is not a waste of renders or resources; rather, it’s about expanding and contextualizing the world the MC inhabits.

Thank you all for your valuable feedback. I will make sure to clarify the game’s stance on these topics more clearly in the next update.

 

[JohnS2]

At the current state of the game (version 0.1a), there is not a single mention or inclusion of any NTR scenario involving any of the girls you encounter.

I want to sincerely apologize for any misinformation circulating about NTR being part of the current build. As clearly stated on the itch.io page:

No, you will not find NTR content involving the main heroines.

My intention with the side characters is simply to showcase Kamogawa Island from the perspective of strangers to the main character. I have never stated or implied that I plan to include NTR. While swinging, sharing, orgies, or voyeurism may occur with side characters, these characters remain strangers to the MC and will always have less content compared to the main heroines.

This is not a waste of renders or resources; rather, it’s about expanding and contextualizing the world the MC inhabits.

Thank you all for your valuable feedback. I will make sure to clarify the game’s stance on these topics more clearly in the next update.

No worries, some people (myself included) jumped the gun by making assumptions about what type of content was in the current version of the game without stopping to check to see what was actually in it, and for that I apologize.
That said I like the game so far and I look forward to seeing what you have planned for it, have a good one.

 

[razfaz]

needs an ic patch then perfect

 

[labbu]

At the current state of the game (version 0.1a), there is not a single mention or inclusion of any NTR scenario involving any of the girls you encounter.

I want to sincerely apologize for any misinformation circulating about NTR being part of the current build. As clearly stated on the itch.io page:

No, you will not find NTR content involving the main heroines.

My intention with the side characters is simply to showcase Kamogawa Island from the perspective of strangers to the main character. I have never stated or implied that I plan to include NTR. While swinging, sharing, orgies, or voyeurism may occur with side characters, these characters remain strangers to the MC and will always have less content compared to the main heroines.

This is not a waste of renders or resources; rather, it’s about expanding and contextualizing the world the MC inhabits.

Thank you all for your valuable feedback. I will make sure to clarify the game’s stance on these topics more clearly in the next update.

dev can it be possible to shrink the mc cock size?

 

[Bckx6]

Game is cropped on my phone idk why, the right is not entire displayed

 

[Fragolina Studio]

Game is cropped on my phone idk why, the right is not entire displayed

Can you send me a screenshot and the model of your phone? Thanks.