Mod Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [S1 v0.7FinalB & S2 v0.8.1FinalA] Multi-Mod [Sancho1969]

[Deleted member 219103]

Since they came up, regarding edpts throughout the script you can get:

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It seems quite clear to me, that you want to keep this value as low as possible, as it crops up when you piss off some staff or one of the Karlssons. Not sure if you already plan on adding a remark about them, as I know you said you don't want to guess at variable meanings in your WT, but for these an exception might be worthwhile. Without any context on the dom path, they could easily be mistaken for some decisions as "acting like a professional, thus positive". After a glance at espts, it seems to be the same there, you mostly get them when failing a task, but that one is quite unambigious in every instance.

 

[SGrimmer]

I'd be happy for a version without gallery, I'm one of those monsters that never uses it.

 

[Belnick]

it been so long since I played this lol, I think i finished at level 7? or what was highest rank? but I have no idea what it was called or what choices I made or what the choices were called, been over a y? since last?

 

[lorddarkam]

it been so long since I played this lol, I think i finished at level 7? or what was highest rank? but I have no idea what it was called or what choices I made or what the choices were called, been over a y? since last?

I cant figure out how to chose the sisters yet, i need to see them together i cant decide who to pick, i need to create another save

 

[lorddarkam]

I personally never use galleries, so I'd be happy with a pre-release version if you are so inclined to release one.

Most people dont use gallery

 

[Sancho1969]

Since they came up, regarding edpts throughout the script you can get:

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It seems quite clear to me, that you want to keep this value as low as possible, as it crops up when you piss off some staff or one of the Karlssons. Not sure if you already plan on adding a remark about them, as I know you said you don't want to guess at variable meanings in your WT, but for these an exception might be worthwhile. Without any context on the dom path, they could easily be mistaken for some decisions as "acting like a professional, thus positive". After a glance at espts, it seems to be the same there, you mostly get them when failing a task, but that one is quite unambigious in every instance.

Be very careful with this theory you've aligned. If someone was to ask my opinion the EDPts are preferred if on the Dom path and ESPts are preferred if on the Sub path. See the difference? No worries though, we'll sort that later once we know how they will (or won't) be used. As a sidenote the MiniStat automatically shows either point system based on what path the Player is on with that particular playthough. I'm doing "little things" like this to minimize congestion in the stat screens as the amount of stats is starting to get a bit ridiculous. Baseball nerds would be envious of this VN's uses of stats.

 

[Sancho1969]

Good morning. I'm a bit exhausted from lack of sleep and I have IRL client appointments periodically scheduled for today but I continue to work (on my first cup of coffee now). Since y'all know I finished the preliminary guide last night I've been speed running and adjusting little things here and there with the guide as I go, and stopping when I see titties to code gallery scenes. Rinse/repeat. This is the approach. I hope to be completed to day. If it's not then I reckon what would be missing is some of the sub scenes since I don't normally play that path, so I have to speed run it a few times separately to catch everything necessary.

That's where I'm at as I'm not opening up the project and the VN... and getting back to it. First client arrives on the property in approx 2.5hrs from now so that'll take a bit to pull their order and load them up... about an hour. Then I'll be back to work on the mod until early afternoon when I have another appointment. That's my daily plan, for full transparency... and probably a bit more info than necessary on a cartoon porn site.

 

[SGrimmer]

Completely devoid of context the "E" could be Elena, and it could be related to her "scale", although she already has a dominance scale so I may have just spouted bullshit...

Fuck it, chapter 8 will burn or vindicate. Godspeed and god bless, you hero.

 

[Sancho1969]

it been so long since I played this lol, I think i finished at level 7? or what was highest rank? but I have no idea what it was called or what choices I made or what the choices were called, been over a y? since last?

FWIW, K9 was the highest you could obtain at end of Episode 6.

 

[Sancho1969]

Completely devoid of context the "E" could be Elena, and it could be related to her "scale", although she already has a dominance scale so I may have just spouted bullshit...

Fuck it, chapter 8 will burn or vindicate. Godspeed and god bless, you hero.

I'm currently on the fence... it could be "evaluation" point. But Elena is much more powerful in Tess's character realm than many probably give her credit for... it's debatable. I might change the stat to "E.DomPnt" and "E.SubPnt" just to get my way out of it.

Edit: Done. Executive decision made. Moving on...

 

[Deleted member 219103]

Be very careful with this theory you've aligned. If someone was to ask my opinion the EDPts are preferred if on the Dom path and ESPts are preferred if on the Sub path. See the difference? No worries though, we'll sort that later once we know how they will (or won't) be used. As a sidenote the MiniStat automatically shows either point system based on what path the Player is on with that particular playthough. I'm doing "little things" like this to minimize congestion in the stat screens as the amount of stats is starting to get a bit ridiculous. Baseball nerds would be envious of this VN's uses of stats.

Well, I mean it seems impossible to get edpts on the sub path and vice a versa, so rather than preferred, I'd say they just denote points collected in the respective paths. But my main argument was, that the points are only awarded in conjunction with someone not approving of something MC does. I get what you mean, even with my theory, it's only a theory, and I might be completely off. There is one fact though, edpts and espts are only "awarded" when the player does something perceived as suboptimal or negative by staff and executives.
That's what I mean, it's super easy to get the wrong idea. Which means players who try to play with the WT without context might pick the wrong choices for the points and consequently have to replay E7 when E8 comes out. But I'll ofc believe in you finding a good way anyway, your mod is after all pretty well thought out and you got a lot of options in your toolbox
Also, the most envy-inducing VN stat-wise must be TLS. Which is not renpy, so you're thankfully safe from being requested to make a WT-mod for it

 

[Sancho1969]

Well, I mean it seems impossible to get edpts on the sub path and vice a versa, so rather than preferred, I'd say they just denote points collected in the respective paths. But my main argument was, that the points are only awarded in conjunction with someone not approving of something MC does. I get what you mean, even with my theory, it's only a theory, and I might be completely off. There is one fact though, edpts and espts are only "awarded" when the player does something perceived as suboptimal or negative by staff and executives.
That's what I mean, it's super easy to get the wrong idea. Which means players who try to play with the WT without context might pick the wrong choices for the points and consequently have to replay E7 when E8 comes out. But I'll ofc believe in you finding a good way anyway, your mod is after all pretty well thought out and you got a lot of options in your toolbox
Also, the most envy-inducing VN stat-wise must be TLS. Which is not renpy, so you're thankfully safe from being requested to make a WT-mod for it

You make valid points... and why I made only one of the E stats available for viewing dependent on the current Dom/Sub path. The more I think of it, the more I'm coming around to your theory. This happened in the past with one of the other point systems, memory fails me at the moment, but we were all safe as I was able to catch it quickly enough, make a mod "maintenance" update notifying the player via a dynamically controlled info section in the MiniStat for obtaining the K Level that the Player was shooting for. It was a bitch to code but makes it so much easier to obtain the preferred target. We'll certainly figure out the E Pnt system, there's just too many of us Player's to not sort all these new stats out eventually. It'll all be ok... we'll make a cheat if all else fails... or a CriticalPath screen to alter things without having to go back several episodes to redo something important.

 

[SGrimmer]

Well, I mean it seems impossible to get edpts on the sub path and vice a versa, so rather than preferred, I'd say they just denote points collected in the respective paths. But my main argument was, that the points are only awarded in conjunction with someone not approving of something MC does. I get what you mean, even with my theory, it's only a theory, and I might be completely off. There is one fact though, edpts and espts are only "awarded" when the player does something perceived as suboptimal or negative by staff and executives.
That's what I mean, it's super easy to get the wrong idea. Which means players who try to play with the WT without context might pick the wrong choices for the points and consequently have to replay E7 when E8 comes out. But I'll ofc believe in you finding a good way anyway, your mod is after all pretty well thought out and you got a lot of options in your toolbox
Also, the most envy-inducing VN stat-wise must be TLS. Which is not renpy, so you're thankfully safe from being requested to make a WT-mod for it

God, changing any value in TLS feels like open heart surgery. The wiki is an absolute godsend.

 

[Sennistrasz]

It does look like edpts = zpts and espts = opts with the options given.

 

[SGrimmer]

Wait, what are zpts and opts? I remember them coming up in one chapter but never understood.

 

[Sancho1969]

This is me just flexing before dinner. I thought I should make a cheat for the assistant choice near the end of the last Episode 6 if on the Dom route... then realized it's only relevant likely once... so now we have an additional "CriticalPath" screen:

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Just like the previous CP screen, it only populates if the ChoiceGuide is enabled, otherwise it never is seen. This keeps the VN sorted for non-guide purists out there (yes, they exist).

You know... for science and stuff.

Okay, short delay of a few minutes for more Sancho flexing.

Since there are so many new stats (as I discussed in the post here) I'm going to add expansion buttons in the MiniStat depending on the pathing. For example if on the Dom pathing (the MiniStat will change dynamically depending on your current playthrough, just as you'd expect from me at this point), I reckon the Player will want to know their Pod stats at some juncture. Rather than congesting the stat screen further, just click the expansion to view those particular stats (work in progress):

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You can leave it open, leave it closed, toggle whenever you want. This way you have what you want on the stat screen at it remains so (no need to keep toggling On if you want it to always be there, etc). Freedom of choice... that's what we're about, right?

 

[Sancho1969]

I'll do the above for the Point/Sponsor grouping as well. That'll cleanup Page 1 considerably. These minor delays will only improve your experience if patient enough to wait for me to finish the update. Hang in there folks, it's a lot of work on my end and I'm doing my best.

 

[whizwart]

Wait, what are zpts and opts? I remember them coming up in one chapter but never understood.

Z points were part of an eval task you did around the VIPS comibg to the island. Setting up the show with sis, massaging a guest, etc. Z points were bad, you did worse the more you got.

 

[whizwart]

I'll do the above for the Point/Sponsor grouping as well. That'll cleanup Page 1 considerably. These minor delays will only improve your experience if patient enough to wait for me to finish the update. Hang in there folks, it's a lot of work on my end and I'm doing my best.

*puts on Karen wig* um, excuse you. I obviously need...no, DESERVE...you to deliver the mod you don't charge me for, to the game I haven,t paid for, via the pirate site I don't fund. *Sings veruca salt's song" Iiiiii dooonnn't carrrreee how, I want it now!!!

 

[Sancho1969]

*puts on Karen wig* um, excuse you. I obviously need...no, DESERVE...you to deliver the mod you don't charge me for, to the game I haven,t paid for, via the pirate site I don't fund. *Sings veruca salt's song" Iiiiii dooonnn't carrrreee how, I want it now!!!

No worries Oh wise Karen wig wearing one... it is already done and I'm moving on. Polish doesn't take too long but must be done as it separates the men from the boys (amongst other things), ain't it?

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Toggled individually as desired in real-time.

And no, I'm not going to code cheats into the stat screens right now... that's work for another day with spare hours to spend. Greedy bastards!