louisamay

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I downloaded your game, and after the first introduction with Tess, the game stopped, and crashed. Not sure how to proceed. Looking forward to it, when I do!
 

shitass1001

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There might be a chance if MC is Good not on Evil route (Dev posted here somewhere i couldn't find it) as Kiyomi leans towards Good guys
if the points gain and lowering in the content we have so far is anything to go off of then kiyomi definitely leans towards the good guys. IIRC many choices involving kiyomi show that she likes when the MCs dont needlessly kill other characters and also when the MCs make smart choices (like not sharing what their inner thoughts are)
 

dirtyfaustine

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if the points gain and lowering in the content we have so far is anything to go off of then kiyomi definitely leans towards the good guys. IIRC many choices involving kiyomi show that she likes when the MCs dont needlessly kill other characters and also when the MCs make smart choices (like not sharing what their inner thoughts are)
that is true, but my point was how heavily dev is trying to push kiyomi with seth. even when i have deliberately selected choices that leads seth to behave cowardly with kiyomi, she still favours him lol.
 

| Vee |

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In the interest of some disclosure, I do feel that I can at least share some minor spoilers but will mark it as such. This is part of a basic chart I created which outlines some possible "romantic" paths for Kane only. (Olivia and Seth are different in how they work because Seth kind of depends on Kane/Olivia choices, and Olivia is kind of very dependent on her current status even more than Kane in some ways) So for Kane, marking as spoilers not the pure status to get a path, but rather how flexible a character is to "tweak" or change from their initial starting point as a character in terms of attitudes towards sub/dom players. (note that good/evil can also tweak this but not included here) So I have them as Set (they cannot change who they are at all in this respect so there is really only one playable path), Somewhat Flexible (they can be influenced to change a little towards player choice/status but cannot really fundamentally change entirely and Kane must meet her halfway), and More Flexible (they are more pliable to play multiple romance paths because they are open to different types of "Kanes" in a lot of ways, so very flexible to adjust to the winds of change so to speak).

If you don't want to know, don't open spoiler tag, although of course stories can tweak a little! The big spoiler to me in here is the actual list in that it lists true romantic possibilities (not technically all but there is a reason for that, and most characters can be extra lovers/slaves/friends with benefits but not a true romance I guess. (maybe a third person style perhaps)

(I might forget someone since this is off the top of my head but do include who I remember, and some of these take patience, they are not happening super soon or anything)

Last, regarding the gentle femdom paths, there are two major characters that will do that, and two others that are open, and one last one which is hard to explain without saying too much. But given the narrative world, it is almost impossible for a lower ranked person to really risk this even behind closed doors. Only the very comfortable and powerful might go that route.

Remember, this is more serious stuff, not just sex scenes as that is way more open for most characters. I will spoil a few characters in there as an example where you can have sex with her but not go father without specific variables. Please be respectful and not spoil this in the actual thread or I basically will have to edit everything out and even more possibly alter my plans just to make it different since it's not set in stone, lol! Also, not every romance is in depth, a few are clearly more deep and involved than more casual ones. So this list seems big, but in reality, the biggest romances with lots of scenes are more limited. Meaning that some romances actually are central to the final plot/resolution, while others are merely part of the story but not crucial to the final plot outcome. (the path might look very similar on your path of choices whether you are with her or not except with side scenes so to speak)

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Thanks! Oh, I forgot to add that Olivia has some possible paths with some of the same characters (these women can go both ways basically) so they can close off each other so to speak sometimes.
Found it
 
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Ugamer1

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We do have the flashback scene between Kane and Veronica, and iirc, they were also talking about their mother (could be a symbol). There is also the "sense of familiarty" sometimes popping in Kane's head when he deals with her, and their redness/freckles. If Veronica is Callista's daughter, it would also make even more sense that she is so smart, and why she was trusted by her father to supervise the gambit. And because Olivia and her were born at almost the same time, something could have happened, resulting with the daughters raised by another mother. :unsure:
The person talking to Alexander in the beginning of the game is Olivia.

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htkk

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Well, I'm at the beginning of chapter 7.
I remember in previous chapters, Elena asked for Surveillance data of the siblings from Dominique and Dominique surmised that she just wanted to check up on one of them, it seems Dominique doesn't know the relationship between Olivia and Elena.
But in chapter 7, the Borad revealed the mom-daughter relationship between Olivia and Elena, it seems suddenly all board members know their relationship.
Why is that, did I miss something?
 

deuxrayme

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Well, I'm at the beginning of chapter 7.
I remember in previous chapters, Elena asked for Surveillance data of the siblings from Dominique and Dominique surmised that she just wanted to check up on one of them, it seems Dominique doesn't know the relationship between Olivia and Elena.
But in chapter 7, the Borad revealed the mom-daughter relationship between Olivia and Elena, it seems suddenly all board members know their relationship.
Why is that, did I miss something?
It is possible to not know something at one point in time and then know it later. There are many things happening behind the scenes in this world. This information could have been revealed by Alexander in one of his drip feed messages. We also don't know what conversation Elena and Dominique had after the one you mentioned about the videos. It is also possible that she knew but didn't act like she knew.
 
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MilesEdgeworth

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Well, I'm at the beginning of chapter 7.
I remember in previous chapters, Elena asked for Surveillance data of the siblings from Dominique and Dominique surmised that she just wanted to check up on one of them, it seems Dominique doesn't know the relationship between Olivia and Elena.
But in chapter 7, the Borad revealed the mom-daughter relationship between Olivia and Elena, it seems suddenly all board members know their relationship.
Why is that, did I miss something?
Likely explanation is that Veronica revealed it when it became important to do so and it wasnt important to tell them at the time. Either that or dom was fucking with Elena at that poin, but I doubt that since its not dom's style.
 

DoverDad

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I just wanted to ask if anyone chose Olivia to like men only. Did you guys still get this choice? I'm playing her as bi and wanted to see what happens if you skip Kat. Well, you skip les sex with Kat. You also skip Kane's sex as well, which is crap.

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Why not just jump to this screen instead and have Kat join in a three-way pork sandwich?
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Remembrance

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I just wanted to ask if anyone chose Olivia to like men only. Did you guys still get this choice? I'm playing her as bi and wanted to see what happens if you skip Kat. Well, you skip les sex with Kat. You also skip Kane's sex as well, which is crap.

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You get 2 variables from choosing if Olivia likes men only (during ep4):
menu:
"(I think I want some women in here too.)" if True:
$ bisisopen = True
$ lesbiansisopen = True

The lesbiansisopen variable is never checked & bisisopen variable is checked 3 times(all 3 times in ep5):
>With doctor chastain's alternative dialogue;
>whether the slave in the office shown by elena is male or female;
>and sub version of the fuckseth scene.
if bisisopen:
scene e5jarrive52 with mediumdissolve
sis "(Katsumi's looking a little delicious herself...maybe I should play with her a little...)"
sis "(She seems like a lot of fun, and she's clearly an ally of Elena.)"
menu:
"(Kiss Katsumi.)" if True:
$ katkiss = True

It's never checked again after chapter 5.
So it'is not checked during the Kat-olivia scenes in ep7; nor during mc+seth+kiyomi+Olivia event on the sub path (pointed out by someone on this thread, i don't play sub path)

The points about skipping MC-pig scene & MC-pig-Kat scene alternative is a good idea imo(y)
 
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Dr. PuPu

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Are there or will there be other secret sub possibilities besides Alessandra? I feel like a playthrough where your sub path evolves into a dom path calls for secret sub just being a perpetual flag where you have a number of opportunities to be a secret sub to a number of women, preferably by choice. It's not exclusive to Alessandra, is it? I would imagine the idea of being a secret sub isn't because your office assistant can be more assertive with you if you take it easy on her, which I'm very excited to see. Also, I was Junko's pet before I got promoted. Will I still have that relationship?

Was there a way I could have avoided the scenario of becoming Alessandra's secret sub? I do not care much for her, and the instant demotion when you turn her down really stings.

I just wanted to ask if anyone chose Olivia to like men only. Did you guys still get this choice? I'm playing her as bi and wanted to see what happens if you skip Kat. Well, you skip les sex with Kat. You also skip Kane's sex as well, which is crap.

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I think the scene with Piggy being locked behind a bi sis option is weird. It's also the only way that I'm aware of to gain her as an ally if you're nice.
 

Remembrance

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Was there a way I could have avoided the scenario of becoming Alessandra's secret sub? I do not care much for her, and the instant demotion when you turn her down really stings.
For the dom path:
It's decided in your 1st few interactions with her when you meet Olivia for the 1st time. There's even a pretty obvious text warning, allowing you to backtrack & revert the scale variable changes:

a "I don't mean you want to be a complete slave all the time...but just in the bedroom."
menu:
"(She's reading me wrong. I definitely don't want to be submissive in the bedroom.)" if True:
$ alessandra_scale += 2


The reason for demotion:
PLEASE READ IF ON THIS PATH: I am writing this now to clarify some questions that have come up from players. I made an error in coding in Episode 6 in that it was technically possible for a K9 ranked dom to also get the secret sub path. THIS WAS NOT INTENDED, and as a result, in Episode 7 I am giving players the option to continue as a secret sub and "lose" that K9 rank or reject Alessandra completely and get demoted to K5.
If you are determined to play a K9 walkthrough, please note you cannot do both K9 and the secret sub path/flags through Episode 7 (somedayhow this is possible) and this is what was intended all along.
I do think it's kinda unfair to punish players with demotion for the devs coding error, but maybe that's just me ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ Rather, I think dev meant to say you wouldn't even get promoted (to k9) if you had already accepted Alessandra as Goddess, so the rank is fixed/corrected to k5/subk7. Basically ignore any k9 content you got as Alessandra's sub.

Being a secret sub basically moves you to a branch of the sub route, so you cannot have the dominant k ranks. If you don't reject Alessandra, you get the subk7 rank, officially moving you from the dom track to the sub track.

The high subK ranks(subk5+) is basically a soft femdom route where the MC is more like a competent subordinate rather than a worthless slave.

Ranks as explained by dev:
Think of the ranks in basic tiers:

K1 - game will not move forward forever, so best to have this as a backup save path. I think you get what I am saying here, but just in case, err…don't assume you make the end of the game like everyone else. There will be multiple "chances" to gain this rank even after the first time so this can apply more than once.

K2/K3 - extra scenes for that rank, but still a way to move forward well towards end paths.

K4 → only way for a sub to move up without being a secret sub down the road. (can lead to higher ranked normal subs) Special note: It will be almost impossible for a true sub Kane to reach Z rank UNLESS an incredibly powerful Olivia someday opts for this kind of change. (basically, the Board as currently constituted will never go for it)

subK5 → A sub Kane can be "promoted" to K5 to close out Episode 8. For gentle femdom lovers (highly competent Kane serving more akin to a butler/servant/admin assistant type role/even limited management duties long-term if trusted) this is likely the best long-term path to take.

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K5 to K8 —> Similar path but different scenes sometimes based on individual rank. It is highly recommended to try to get to either K9 or K10 by the end of Episode 8 if you desire a higher ranked Kane down the road. So think big picture by end of Episode 8…

A) K5 to K8
B) K9
C) K10

K9 → After Episode 8, K9 can still move up easier than ranks below, but getting K10 by the end of Episode 8 opens its own path.

K10 → for those desiring to hit executive status as fast as possible, try and get this by end of Episode 8. Keep in mind the path to get this path might be different depending on Olivia's alignment and/or sis_team because she might want you to act differently, and she is a crucial vote. Your interaction with Pod W2 matters a lot too, in terms of factors not shown yet but more in Episode 8.
 
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