I DID MENTION THAT BEFOREIs there any discussion yet about "Fratricide" (= the act of killing one's own brother)?
I don't think it is by accident that we have 2 brothers as MCs who are named after 2 of the most well known brother killers in mythologie.
Kane or Cain killed his (younger) brother Abel in the biblical Book of Genesis.
"Cain, the firstborn, was a farmer, and his brother Abel was a shepherd. The brothers made sacrifices to God, but God favored Abel's sacrifice instead of Cain's. Cain then murdered Abel, whereupon God punished Cain by condemning him to a life of wandering."
Set or Seth killed his (older) brother Osiris in egyptian mythologie.
"Set is a god of deserts, storms, disorder, violence, and foreigners in ancient Egyptian religion. In Ancient Greek, the god's name is given as Sēth. Set had a positive role where he accompanies Ra on his barque to repel Apep, the serpent of Chaos. Set had a vital role as a reconciled combatant. He was lord of the Red Land (desert), where he was the balance to Horus' role as lord of the Black Land (fertile land)."
"Osiris is the god of fertility, agriculture, the afterlife, the dead, resurrection, life, and vegetation in ancient Egyptian religion."
"In the Osiris myth, the most important Egyptian myth, Set is portrayed as the usurper who murdered and mutilated his own brother, Osiris."
So there might be endings where Kane kills Seth and vice versa, maybe based on good versus evil rating. (Evil Kane kills Seth to take over the company, good Seth kills evil Kane to save the world, ...)
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It just clicked my mind that there is fuckseth point so there might be fuckkane point in future too because of names of Gods but it is not looking as both MCs can be controlled by us and given how things are progressing between kane and olivia my this hypothesis should be truly wrong. I am rooting for kane and olivia!
MC only succeeds half the time, depending on your playstyle. If you follow callistas teachings of basically treating everybody right, you start off at 4 and struggle to advance. Kane is put into a life or death situation without any prior knowledge or training. If that was Callista's intention the whole time, then she's a worse person than even Juliette at this point since she did that to her own flesh and blood.Eh. Mc seems to be doing well. Olivia was trained as an agent while MC was trained as a examinee. He didn't need to know specifics to do well as long as he developed the skills required. You can see others praising Callista's tutelage directly or indirectly, i.e. she didn't fail.
Rather, the MC suceeding even when unware of the deeper mechanisms of the Gambit shows she suceeded pretty well in her aims (which was not to baby the MC, or reduce Seths pain - but rather to train & use them as chess pieces in the gambit & bet on them. A little extreme version of tough love, lol)
Also, it was probably a requirement of the Gambit that the MC be unware. I can see Callista being confident enough in MC to accept, or maybe even propose that limitation.
It's all about how you perceive Callista, whether she is indeed as legendary as everyone makes her out to be or not.
"Callistas best bet prior to that was hoping the hospital would figure it out," the dystopian equivalent of a public healthcare hospital?? Callista wasn't that dumb
Tbh it all depends on whether Callista is the gambit queen or not.
If she is, it's likely everything was deliberate & even the theory Alexander had a deal with her seems more acceptable, since she has so much info.
The queen has too much control & info to have been forced into it. She's the Gambit's queen after all.
If she isn't & she really died, then it's more likely, though still inconsistent with how everyone describes her as the best thing ever.
Let's see.
Well, for sub players, getting k4 is success. I don't judge people's kinks.MC only succeeds half the time, depending on your playstyle.
When was it mentioned that Callista's teachings were so black & white? She was not a preacher preaching morality.If you follow callistas teachings of basically treating everybody right, you start off at 4 and struggle to advance.
Given Seth was her real child(i have doubts), she kept him in pain for 10+ years despite having the connections to ask for help. My mother would beg everyone she knew to grant me even a slightly better QoL.Kane is put into a life or death situation without any prior knowledge or training. If that was Callista's intention the whole time, then she's a worse person than even Juliette at this point since she did that to her own flesh and blood.
Cynthia, phoebe, etc. have high opinions of her (& therefore MC for being her son) if you read between the lines. Goes for a lot of characters. Like the board (Olivia-Elena conversation in ch7), etc. Whole tone of the game presents Callista as special from the very beginning.Only two people perceive her as legendary. alexander was in love with her and veronica barely knew her.
I had the impression :MC only ends up as k4 if the player wants him to be sub, or if he cannot leverage the situation to his benefit. Callista's tutelage gives him that edge, hence the ability to get to k5/6, which is very very rare.
So it's entirely on player choice if he ends up on the sub route.
It's not so simple. If you have a loaf of bread, you give it to your friend & you die of hunger. Is that good or stupid?I had the impression :
- mc wants to be friendly and "good" -> K4
- mc/player has read Macchiavelli and uses it -> K6
Exactly. Hence you cannot judge Callista's tutelage or MC's aptitude by the outcome.I don't know what Callista taught mc.
In the end all the crucial decisions (good vs evil, dom vs sub, ...) are made by the player and not mc nor Callista.
1. Not about the kinks, its about the story. If you're not an executive, Kane's in a bad place story wise.Well, for sub players, getting k4 is success. I don't judge people's kinks.
When was it mentioned that Callista's teachings were so black & white? She was not a preacher preaching morality.
What MC was taught was intellectual/observational/survival problem solving skills (speculation) seen during the work - especially Dominique & Veronica works. Those answers wouldn't be available options if MC didn't have the aptitude to solve them.
MC only ends up as k4 if the player wants him to be sub, or if he cannot leverage the situation to his benefit. Callista's tutelage gives him that edge, hence the ability to get to k5/6, which is very very rare.
So it's entirely on player choice if he ends up on the sub route.
Basically both possibilities are there to give us 2 routes based on our preferences.
The logic I have explained before.
You can teach everything & send your child off into the real world, but it's ultimately upto them whether they succeed or not.
This(MC's aptitude & Dom/sub preference) is kept not fixed for the sake of giving us 2 routes.
Cannot blame the teacher for that. Blame the player.
But you can see the upper limit(k6) as the high aptitude MC trained by Callista the board is so wary of.
Given Seth was her real child(i have doubts), she kept him in pain for 10+ years despite having the connections to ask for help. My mother would beg everyone she knew to grant me even a slightly better QoL.
We need to adjust to the crueler world of KG.
Consider it as having an eye on the bigger picture &/or a dystopian version of tough love & trial by fire. Callista was no saint, but I wouldn't call her evil. Just believing in her children's success & endurance.¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
Cynthia, phoebe, etc. have high opinions of her (& therefore MC for being her son) if you read between the lines. Goes for a lot of characters. Like the board (Olivia-Elena conversation in ch7), etc. Whole tone of the game presents Callista as special from the very beginning.
Your theory is a lot kinder, but I think my crueler theory fits the story more appropriately to the characters & facts.
I don't believe Callista was cruel, but she wasn't soft either.
She prepared her children & sent them into the Gambit, hoping to win, not just herself, but the MC too, as well as the world (again, speculation).
But one thing I'd be pretty sure was that Callista wasn't helpless nor forced. Not the Gambit Queen herself.
But again, let's see. This is turning into speculation about her character/kindness & I wouldn't do that in a world which has Julliette ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
According to the preliminary roadmap, future updates will now come out ~ every 4 months. So, we're waiting for chapter 8, which Tess says will be split into 2 parts. And the most important thing here, in my opinion, is how long it will take for the second part of ch8 to come out. If it's going to be another + 4 months, that would be too bad. Hopefully, Tess will adjust the timeline wisely, and the second part will come out 2 months after the first one at the most, and we'll end up with the same six months.Guys, I missed the moment, we are now waiting for the release of ep8 as always in about six months? or will there be a second part of ep7?
sorry but at the end of WT she says only parts, and every ep 1-7 is gettin bigger so farAccording to the preliminary roadmap, future updates will now come out ~ every 4 months. So, we're waiting for chapter 8, which Tess says will be split into 2 parts. And the most important thing here, in my opinion, is how long it will take for the second part of ch8 to come out. If it's going to be another + 4 months, that would be too bad. Hopefully, Tess will adjust the timeline wisely, and the second part will come out 2 months after the first one at the most, and we'll end up with the same six months.
So, let's recap. If all goes well, we should expect v0.8 pt1 in about 4 months after the release of 0.7. V0.8 pt1, according to Tess, will contain about 1500+ renders.
According to Tess's idea, the game should have 12 chapters (eps). As for the fact that each next ch/ep will be larger than the previous one, I can't tell you anything specific. I haven't seen that message from her and you have to ask Tess on her discord. Tess, as I understand it, no longer wants to disappoint players with a long waiting period (which this time her illness has superimposed on it, increasing it even more), so we have what we have.sorry but at the end of WT she says only parts, and every ep 1-7 is gettin bigger so far
i hope but don´t think 2 parts are sufficient( sorry google translater)
I wonder if the players who refused to co-host Katsumi's game show will see any content replacing it? My GoodDom Kane initially refused to help her, but under the influence of talking to Olivia about the importance of the event, agreed to help Katsumi in the final v0.7. If this show is really brutal, comparable to the death event on Juliette's yacht, I will have to leave that choice to EvilDom Kane and just skip it in my canonical walkthrough.yea the first part of the game is easy, its the ambitious part/ending that takes the most time. The next update is hugely gameshow based so players would be advised to have at least one save based around the gameshow.
From what she said the next update will be heavily gameshow based so if you're not participating/running it, you'll likely draw the short straw. I doubt the show will be brutal as tess has been very good at warning us ahead of time that certain choices will lead to unpleasantness. If I had to guess Id say it will likely come down to Kanes sensibilities in terms of how bad the contestants get it.I wonder if the players who refused to co-host Katsumi's game show will see any content replacing it? My GoodDom Kane initially refused to help her, but under the influence of talking to Olivia about the importance of the event, agreed to help Katsumi in the final v0.7. If this show is really brutal, comparable to the death event on Juliette's yacht, I will have to leave that choice to EvilDom Kane and just skip it in my canonical walkthrough.
Not known yet but the game seems to be implying that the two sisters in question are dom and juliette.Read some theories from some very smart people here but the one thing I haven't seen addressed --
which two sisters were meant to be triggered into fighting each other and why? Or is that not known yet?
You mean by Alessandra right? I don't think she cares. She just wants to be the Fisherman who benefits.Wow very complex game lots being revealed.
Read some theories from some very smart people here but the one thing I haven't seen addressed --
which two sisters were meant to be triggered into fighting each other and why? Or is that not known yet?
Really love this game. All the characters are so great even Julliete is wonderful though on a good/dom path don't see too much of her.