VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

And not doing a very good job, I might add. She's about a sick, evil bitch... but, definitely hot as hell... gonna keep her as a pet when my MC rules the world... Jus' Sayin'

Yeah she is too...extreme for me personally (again, will do her route eventually just to see the difference in content)....the likes of Chanel (and possibly Pat/Sam) I think their...'tendencies' can be tamed somewhat..put in their place....Kitty however is well on her way to being Alessandra/Julliette 2.0 in my opinion heh...she is a completely crazy evil bitch...

Hot though...like you say hahahaha, I much prefer his sister though who is hotter, more intelligent and while I'm sure can be just as crazy if she chose to be, at least can control her emotions.

 

[motseer]

Yeah she is too...extreme for me personally (again, will do her route eventually just to see the difference in content)....the likes of Chanel (and possibly Pat/Sam) I think their...'tendencies' can be tamed somewhat..put in their place....Kitty however is well on her way to being Alessandra/Julliette 2.0 in my opinion heh...she is a completely crazy evil bitch...

Hot though...like you say hahahaha, I much prefer his sister though who is hotter, more intelligent and while I'm sure can be just as crazy if she chose to be, at least can control her emotions.

Yeah, it kinda puzzles me that Elena is her patron and mentor. Though, I guess Elena has a dark side too; as do most of the women in that place. Still, Katsumi seems mostly dark most of the time. I'm definitely not into playing the sub routes but I find the story fascinating as an expose on the dichotomies of human nature.

 

[Maviarab]

Yeah, it kinda puzzles me that Elena is her patron and mentor. Though, I guess Elena has a dark side too; as do most of the women in that place. Still, Katsumi seems mostly dark most of the time. I'm definitely not into playing the sub routes but I find the story fascinating as an expose on the dichotomies of human nature.

Yeah for sure we know Elena can also be dark (as you say, all the women at the organisation have been affected somewhat and are 'tough')....however she is one of the very few that has variables/points to make her 'good'....or not necessarily good, but better, more moralistic at least. Certain characters don't have this variable. They are beyond redemption heh.

So for me, at the time of the prison visit, Elena possibly was 100% a complete bitch herself....Kitty seems to be the perfect vehicle for her but agree with you, I don't think Kitty has any redemption left, she rose up the ranks as fast as she did as she is probably willing to literally do whatever she needs to do....regardless of what that may be, as we can all see, she also greatly enjoys it too which would have made her rise all the easier for her.

I certainly like her as a 'character' though...she has a kind of playful evil mischievousness about her....almost an innocence in a way with her giddy personality and smile...it's what's behind that that is scary, more scary than Juliette for me as Juli doesn't appear 'crazy' if you follow me. Kitty has the playful little girl aura that would then stab you 400 times in your sleep as an 8 year old for not letting her eat cookies. I definitely don't think she is playing with a full deck haha.

 

[kinkyshin]

Umm whut? Do you mean Katsumi? Maybe it's a route thing but she has been trying to get in our pants since we were in prison. Also a whole route with her (developing) with Junko as a sub/slave with her.

Yea, Kitty or Katsumi or whatever her name is xD

When you play dom Kane she is all over you. But as a sub Kane none of those scenes happen.

This is why I was surprised that Tess said there will be a route for sub Kane with her when she's showed almost no interest in him at all.

 

[motseer]

Yeah for sure we know Elena can also be dark (as you say, all the women at the organisation have been affected somewhat and are 'tough')....however she is one of the very few that has variables/points to make her 'good'....or not necessarily good, but better, more moralistic at least. Certain characters don't have this variable. They are beyond redemption heh.

So for me, at the time of the prison visit, Elena possibly was 100% a complete bitch herself....Kitty seems to be the perfect vehicle for her but agree with you, I don't think Kitty has any redemption left, she rose up the ranks as fast as she did as she is probably willing to literally do whatever she needs to do....regardless of what that may be, as we can all see, she also greatly enjoys it too which would have made her rise all the easier for her.

I certainly like her as a 'character' though...she has a kind of playful evil mischievousness about her....almost an innocence in a way with her giddy personality and smile...it's what's behind that that is scary, more scary than Juliette for me as Juli doesn't appear 'crazy' if you follow me. Kitty has the playful little girl aura that would then stab you 400 times in your sleep as an 8 year old for not letting her eat cookies. I definitely don't think she is playing with a full deck haha.

Kinda like a female Chuckie...

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[Maviarab]

Yea, Kitty or Katsumi or whatever her name is xD

When you play dom Kane she is all over you. But as a sub Kane none of those scenes happen.

This is why I was surprised that Tess said there will be a route for sub Kane with her when she's showed almost no interest in him at all.

Ahhh...good to know...sort of...I hate to think how she would treat you as a sub lmao....well, good luck with that one, if you still have your fingers and arms left, let us know how it works out for ya

Kinda like a female Chuckie...

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Yes...exactly!

 

[Stan5851]

Ladies and gentlemen, doms and subs! It looks like there will be about 15 chapters total in KG, not 12 as Tess posted earlier in this thread. At least that's what one of the game's patron replied to me. Of course, it would be nice to see a response from Tess herself, but that's all we have for now.

 

[Maviarab]

Ladies and gentlemen, doms and subs! It looks like there will be about 15 chapters total in KG, not 12 as Tess posted earlier in this thread. At least that's what one of the game's patron replied to me. Of course, it would be nice to see a response from Tess herself, but that's all we have for now.
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Interesting and no complaints from me either (other than the time it will take). So, half way through then approximately. Excellent!

 

[Stan5851]

I certainly like her as a 'character' though...she has a kind of playful evil mischievousness about her....almost an innocence in a way with her giddy personality and smile...it's what's behind that that is scary, more scary than Juliette for me as Juli doesn't appear 'crazy' if you follow me. Kitty has the playful little girl aura that would then stab you 400 times in your sleep as an 8 year old for not letting her eat cookies. I definitely don't think she is playing with a full deck haha.

Very good point. She scares me too with its unpredictability. I think all will be revealed at the game show when Kitty "reveals herself talents" to the world, but I highly doubt my GoodDom Kane will be happy about it.

BTW, Tess talked a bit more about the two games that are planned to be developed after KG is finished.
Mistress Tess — Yesterday at 11:21 PM

I have written briefly on this before but likely two separate things:

1) A much larger scope game loosely based in the future of a canon ending of KG, it will require a team given overall lore/narrative. (KG I wrote about 10% of background/lore than this one, which is much, much, bigger) I had one person tell me KG felt like a small Game of Thrones arena but it is in fact this one in my head I considered more huge in scope and was my original game idea but did not have the talent/experience to try it yet. Not traditionally femdom but more conceptually very large scope hero's journey (or perhaps villian)/tighter cast (more team/friend/lover deeper characters in a set group) but wider implications/story. @Mistress Anais has told me it is a mix of Mass Effect (space action/adventure romance/sex opera) and Persona 5/Baldurs Gate 3 (tighter team of a party/people with training/school/rpg traits/companion/friend/lover deep bonds) style but I haven't deeply played these so not sure.

2) A femdom game/world that is part of overall universe of #1 game, but much tighter and based on a specific faction (matriarchal society) which is part of a larger empire taking place. It will be more niche, and explore some ideas I can't/won't from KG due to how the narrative is constructed. It will have multi-tiered locations/ranks in their society and a very small elite female group that are unique in certain ways. So both males/females will have societal tiers, but the lowest females will generally be above the highest males overall. One of these elite females will be a part of Game # 1 group and mentioned here too, but generally not together. (games are separate)

3) Only thing for sure I can confirm is that at least two characters from KG will exist somehow: 1) Sparks the robot that I introduced in Episode 7, and 2) one human character from KG as well (and yes, because it's the future, I am pondering how I can do it in a believable/natural way but I have a few good ideas)

I got the impression that the second game, the one that will be the direct successor to KG, will be extremely niche and purely femdom, with no options for character development along the Dom routes. If that's the case, KG will indeed remain a one-of-a-kind game.

 

[Maviarab]

Very good point. She scares me too with its unpredictability. I think all will be revealed at the game show when Kitty "reveals herself talents" to the world, but I highly doubt my GoodDom Kane will be happy about it.

BTW, Tess talked a bit more about the two games that are planned to be developed after KG is finished.
Mistress Tess — Yesterday at 11:21 PM


I got the impression that the second game, the one that will be the direct successor to KG, will be extremely niche and purely femdom, with no options for character development along the Dom routes. If that's the case, KG will indeed remain a one-of-a-kind game.

Very interesting, thanks for that. Possibly yes...I'd certainly try them out as think Tess has proven herself a competent storyteller, whether that story interests me is another matter, that they would be of a similar type focus doesn't surprise me at all though, would depend how heavy the femdom focus will be I guess. For now, we look forward to more KG at least

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So...as a complete detour, was thinking of a fun topic (KG related to stay on topic)...which Karlsson sister would Raven be, or would it be more fun if she was also a sister? (In a silly fantasy world). Curious on thoughts heh.

 

[Stan5851]

Very interesting, thanks for that. Possibly yes...I'd certainly try them out as think Tess has proven herself a competent storyteller, whether that story interests me is another matter, that they would be of a similar type focus doesn't surprise me at all though, would depend how heavy the femdom focus will be I guess. For now, we look forward to more KG at least

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So...as a complete detour, was thinking of a fun topic (KG related to stay on topic)...which Karlsson sister would Raven be, or would it be more fun if she was also a sister? (In a silly fantasy world). Curious on thoughts heh.

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[Maviarab]

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Damn...wasn't expecting that! That was a pretty awesome reply...I'm seriously impressed and would agree with most of you wrote to be fair. Now I'm wondering who the head shaman would be rofl....decisions decisions hahaha.

Thanks for taking the time to write that out.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

kg's sequel is at least a few years away. No need to worry bout that :s

 

[Dr. PuPu]

Oh I’m sure the secret sub route will get its love!! I mean, Miss Tess mentioned that, “Secret sub Kane: Alessandra main one, two more not disclosed possible” so not only are we getting more of Alessandra secret sub route but also two more routes with secret sub with unknown characters!

I'm not a fan of Alessandra, so I hope at least one of these two currently unknown secret sub paths is cool. Maybe this isn't what she means since they're probably very minor characters, but the implication of the SWEET ASSistant and CRUEL ASSistant being dominant or submissive towards you based on your choices towards them gives me hope of something similar. I kinda dig a scenario where my office assistant forces herself onto me and I can't help but to let her have her way with me.

 

[Cirelc]

Ladies and gentlemen, doms and subs! It looks like there will be about 15 chapters total in KG, not 12 as Tess posted earlier in this thread. At least that's what one of the game's patron replied to me. Of course, it would be nice to see a response from Tess herself, but that's all we have for now.
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[Maviarab]

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Thanks for posting.

 

[Cirelc]

Thanks for posting.

Np you are welcome and i was just faster than Stan, because i asked her a question on her DC.

 

[Stan5851]

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All in all, Tess's answer satisfied me completely. She has an understanding of how much story there is left to tell, and whether it's 12-13 or even 14+ chapters is not that important (imo). After all, Tess isn't one of those group of developers who instead of a story only create filler to drag the whole game out. That's not what Tess does and that's why I trust her.

 

[Maviarab]

All in all, Tess's answer satisfied me completely. She has an understanding of how much story there is left to tell, and whether it's 12-13 or even 14+ chapters is not that important (imo). After all, Tess isn't one of those group of developers who instead of a story only create filler to drag the whole game out. That's not what Tess does and that's why I trust her.

Out of reactions so

Another point on the trust, it would seem to me also that the entire story is written, far too many devs make it up as they go along or change things to pander to sections of 'rabid fans'....also better in my mind to write your story (as much as you can, maybe bar minor details) and then stick to it. Sure if an idea comes to mind or you like a suggestion you can maybe insert it in, but at least then you know exactly where you are.

 

[Stan5851]

Out of reactions so

Another point on the trust, it would seem to me also that the entire story is written, far too many devs make it up as they go along or change things to pander to sections of 'rabid fans'....also better in my mind to write your story (as much as you can, maybe bar minor details) and then stick to it. Sure if an idea comes to mind or you like a suggestion you can maybe insert it in, but at least then you know exactly where you are.

I agree, this happens a lot too. However, the very idea of listening to the wishes of players and patrons isn't fundamentally bad, you just have to be able to strike a balance so you don't ruin your own pre-written story. Tess wrote a post that touched on this topic, and I think the concept works fine in the case of KG.

I'm not too concerned which kinks are in/out of the story in terms of my own personal desires. I know some devs have their desired kinks and write a story around them, while I'd say I am more story focused, and the kinks are wrapping around it instead. This is why I'm not so flexible on my plot outline, but much more flexible on specific kinks in scenes (if it matches the vibe/sensibilities of certain characters/story beats). I'm almost always open to kink suggestions and will consider anything if it seems to match the narrative, but on the other hand, I'd never listen to suggestions for character motivations, desires, and story elements. I feel like some players are getting true enjoyment from some theory crafting too, and being able to throw in subtle hints here and there I think make it more fun for a certain subset of players.

Of course, a lot also depends on the financial situation of the developer. As we know, Tess runs her own business and KG is her favorite "child" and her hobby, but there are many devs for whom things are different and their conditional AVN is literally the only source of their own livelihood and replaces their work IRL. So, I won't judge those devs who are overly loyal to the wishes of their patrons, because everyone has their own life and their own ways of survival.