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Stan5851

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I still can't get over the bug over why good olivia has to speak like that with kane that he is not eligible to enter into this room.
No one can. I wrote about it here, mentioning Silver_Crow117 and PickerLewd in my post, who, apparently, are Tess's patrons, but there was no response from them. Well, at least we did everything we could...and " I wash my hands of this". At the same time, note that this celebration of idiocy performed by the Good Liv continued, but this time later, in the Throne room...
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And here, I can’t help but ask! What the hell are you talking about?!:WaitWhat: For this event to kick off, you have to be a demoness with a killing spree under your belt, and you're canon good Olivia!

Alright, let’s assume Liv still wanted to get back at Jack, even while being good..But that room with her and Alessa only opens if she’s an ultra evil demoness….Where's the logic, Tess?:WaitWhat: It's either not here or it's female, which seems to be the same thing.
 

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I got banned for being one remember :p

(Edit: I wonder how many times she used the word 'bit' in this release?)
And also the word "err..". She is using this word since many updates for multiple characters. I kind of understand if one character uses this word. But how logical to use this for almost all characters?

She used this word in discord whenever she involves in conversations.
 

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No one can. I wrote about it here, mentioning Silver_Crow117 and PickerLewd in my post, who, apparently, are Tess's patrons, but there was no response from them. Well, at least we did everything we could...and " I wash my hands of this". At the same time, note that this celebration of idiocy performed by the Good Liv continued, but this time later, in the Throne room...
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And here, I can’t help but ask! What the hell are you talking about?!:WaitWhat: For this event to kick off, you have to be a demoness with a killing spree under your belt, and you're canon good Olivia!

Alright, let’s assume Liv still wanted to get back at Jack, even while being good..But that room with her and Alessa only opens if she’s an ultra evil demoness….Where's the logic, Tess?:WaitWhat: It's either not here or it's female, which seems to be the same thing.
Is it just me or is there a difference between the way that good liv and evil liv tells him he cant get into the room meaning that she did that on purpose
 

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No one can. I wrote about it here, mentioning Silver_Crow117 and PickerLewd in my post, who, apparently, are Tess's patrons, but there was no response from them. Well, at least we did everything we could...and " I wash my hands of this". At the same time, note that this celebration of idiocy performed by the Good Liv continued, but this time later, in the Throne room...
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And here, I can’t help but ask! What the hell are you talking about?!:WaitWhat: For this event to kick off, you have to be a demoness with a killing spree under your belt, and you're canon good Olivia!

Alright, let’s assume Liv still wanted to get back at Jack, even while being good..But that room with her and Alessa only opens if she’s an ultra evil demoness….Where's the logic, Tess?:WaitWhat: It's either not here or it's female, which seems to be the same thing.
Holy, completly overlooked that this also play out in the throne scene too ... yeah that happening for good Olivia seems strange. But maybe this actually brings her more in line with good Olivia in sub route. Because there she is also pretty mean and doesn't act different then evil Olivia for the most time. Biggest difference is she doesnt like killing people and is nicer to Kane in the beginning. But she definetly enjoys humiliating and torturing the slaves, not to the same extent as her evil version but still.

Edit: Haha, maybe that is the reason why Astrid and Yvette are not sure about letting Olivia join the revolution, even if she is good. Maybe she just acts like the other sisters off screen all the time :ROFLMAO:.
 
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Mav! Sorry to burst your bubble, but the grammar throughout the entire story is... pretty bad. I'll give you this, though; the grammar in that screenshot is horrendously terrible. They could definitely benefit from the input of a good grammar Nazi. Jus' Sayin' :cool:
The grammar is only going to get worse from here on out. On top of that, there may be some continuity errors in renders or sentences that don't match up.
I used to go through and sends tons of errors, started in ep.8(sub side only but was working through other side), and spent days catching stuff, I wasn't perfect, but better than whatever she puts out sometimes. I was in the middle of doing some of the dom side for earlier parts of ep.8, before the ban, so that stuff Will never get fixed.

I think I was one of the only ones who actually cared to help with grammar and errors, now the other people still there probably don't care to help in that stuff as much.
I know I am going to be personally annoyed playing now, seeing this stuff and the errors, but I just have to push on and try to ignore this type of stuff now, cause I can't help fix it now.
 
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Is it just me or is there a difference between the way that good liv and evil liv tells him he cant get into the room meaning that she did that on purpose
I just checked it... and there is no difference between Good Liv's refusal and Evil Liv's. The dialogues are the same. By the way, it wasn't even necessary to check, because before this there is a check for the state of certain flags, and if the check fails, the dialogue is the same.
before.jpg
And the wording of the refusal itself sounds as hypocritical as possible, because if we assume that this is not nonsense or an error in the dialogue, then Olivia may be hinting that she and Kane do not have a romance, which is indicated by the goldilockdom flag (which we get in the pool scene in 0.8.1), but that's not true, and in almost all of my saves (both good and evil), this romantic flag is active.

Well, let's try to figure it out and look for the logic in it (spoiler: there still isn't any).
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Conditions for triggering the scene with Alessa and Liv's VIP room:
goldilocksdom=True and demonessdompath=True or goldilocksdom=True and klmistressdompath=True

Before we continue, take a look at these walkthrough details (season 1):
WT01.jpg
As we can see, the conditions for obtaining the k1mistressdompath flag differ from those for demonesses, so formally, Olivia may not be a demoness, but she can still lead K1 and kill people of the corresponding rank.

But in fact, this rare k1mistressdompath flag does not appear anywhere else in the game; I checked every official walkthrough using a quick keyword search. Whereas the demoness flag is much more widespread.

But in any case, even if your Evil Liv is not a demoness, and you have clearly calculated and made it so that she “only” cold-bloodedly killed a person and became the head of the K1 department, it still doesn't make her a good and fluffy sheep, and it's easy to assume that behind the scenes she actively killed those who fell under her care, as Mercy, the head of K1, did (and still does).

So, even if you calculated everything in advance and by the time of the key choice (the murder of the old man from the wastelands) in K1, Olivia had, say, 6 sisgood pts and 14 sisevil pts (which guarantees her not getting the demonic flag, but getting K1mistress), she still remains very evil.

Now let's return to why there is still no logic in Olivia's refusal. Such a response makes sense only if Olivia has either a demoness flag or k1mistressdompath, but Kane refused to start a romantic relationship with her (i.e., the flag goldilockdom=False).

However, in the case where Liv is good or even evil (but not a demoness or K1mistress), such a response simply makes no sense at all.

In fact, an evil Olivia who does not meet the conditions of the VIP scene should have said something like,

“I thought about inviting you somewhere... but I changed my mind. You showed a special interest in me, but you didn't work hard enough to turn me into a complete evil bitch who kills innocent people. So I'm just evil, and Alessia and I will have fun without you, lol". :KEK:

The most difficult and unpleasant thing awaits the Good Liv. I have no idea what she should have said here.

According to logic,(which Tess threw out the window), this VIP scene with Alessa and Liv on the GoodDom route shouldn't have happened at all,
but! if Liv's refusal was made solely (by Tess) to hint to the players that they are missing some Dom content, then the method chosen was not the best.

And this will only fuel speculation about whether "GoodOlivia" is really as good as she seems, or whether behind the scenes our agent Olivia is cosplaying Mercy and Jules in one person.:devilish:
 
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The grammar is only going to get worse from here on out. On top of that, there may be some continuity errors in renders or sentences that don't match up.
I used to go through and sends tons of errors, started in ep.8(sub side only but was working through other side), and spent days catching stuff, I wasn't perfect, but better than whatever she puts out sometimes. I was in the middle of doing some of the dom side for earlier parts of ep.8, before the ban, so that stuff Will never get fixed.

I think I was one of the only ones who actually cared to help with grammar and errors, now the other people still there probably don't care to help in that stuff as much.
I know I am going to be personally annoyed playing now, seeing this stuff and the errors, but I just have to push on and try to ignore this type of stuff now, cause I can't help fix it now.
Well, all I know to say is... That sucks. Hehe, you would think such an elegant person would insist on elegant sentences. Am I right? Evidently, there's just no accounting for taste, or lack thereof.

Peace to you, fellow grammar Nazi ;)
 

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I just checked it... and there is no difference between Good Liv's refusal and Evil Liv's. The dialogues are the same. By the way, it wasn't even necessary to check, because before this there is a check for the state of certain flags, and if the check fails, the dialogue is the same.
View attachment 5589961
And the wording of the refusal itself sounds as hypocritical as possible, because if we assume that this is not nonsense or an error in the dialogue, then Olivia may be hinting that she and Kane do not have a romance, which is indicated by the goldilockdom flag (which we get in the pool scene in 0.8.1), but that's not true, and in almost all of my saves (both good and evil), this romantic flag is active.

Well, let's try to figure it out and look for the logic in it (spoiler: there still isn't any).
View attachment 5589970
Conditions for triggering the scene with Alessa and Liv's VIP room:
goldilocksdom=True and demonessdompath=True or goldilocksdom=True and klmistressdompath=True

Before we continue, take a look at these walkthrough details (season 1):
View attachment 5589973
As we can see, the conditions for obtaining the k1mistressdompath flag differ from those for demonesses, so formally, Olivia may not be a demoness, but she can still lead K1 and kill people of the corresponding rank.

But in fact, this rare k1mistressdompath flag does not appear anywhere else in the game; I checked every official walkthrough using a quick keyword search. Whereas the demoness flag is much more widespread.

But in any case, even if your Evil Liv is not a demoness, and you have clearly calculated and made it so that she “only” cold-bloodedly killed a person and became the head of the K1 department, it still doesn't make her a good and fluffy sheep, and it's easy to assume that behind the scenes she actively killed those who fell under her care, as Mercy, the head of K1, did (and still does).

So, even if you calculated everything in advance and by the time of the key choice (the murder of the old man from the wastelands) in K1, Olivia had, say, 6 sisgood pts and 14 sisevil pts (which guarantees her not getting the demonic flag, but getting K1mistress), she still remains very evil.

Now let's return to why there is still no logic in Olivia's refusal. Such a response makes sense only if Olivia has either a demoness flag or k1mistressdompath, but Kane refused to start a romantic relationship with her (i.e., the flag goldilockdom=False).

However, in the case where Liv is good or even evil (but not a demoness or K1mistress), such a response simply makes no sense at all.

In fact, an evil Olivia who does not meet the conditions of the VIP scene should have said something like,

“I thought about inviting you somewhere... but I changed my mind. You showed a special interest in me, but you didn't work hard enough to turn me into a complete evil bitch who kills innocent people. So I'm just evil, and Alessia and I will have fun without you, lol". :KEK:

The most difficult and unpleasant thing awaits the Good Liv. I have no idea what she should have said here.

According to logic,(which Tess threw out the window), this VIP scene with Alessa and Liv on the GoodDom route shouldn't have happened at all,
but! if Liv's refusal was made solely (by Tess) to hint to the players that they are missing some Dom content, then the method chosen was not the best.

And this will only fuel speculation about whether "GoodOlivia" is really as good as she seems, or whether behind the scenes our agent Olivia is cosplaying Mercy and Jules in one person.:devilish:
So best scenario: Olivia wants to protect Kane from making a decision that punishes his innocent best friend. And maybe even wants to protect him from knowing about how he got involved into the whole thing, so he doesnt act out and stays focused.
Worst case scenario: Good Olivia just isnt good and wants to have fun punishing Jake and doesnt want Kane to see it.

Wildcard scenario: Good Olivia doesnt want anybody else to get involved and protects Jake here on her own?

Other ideas?
 
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So best scenario: Olivia wants to protect Kane from making a decision that punishes his innocent best friend. And maybe even wants to protect him from knowing about how he got involved into the whole thing, so he doesnt act out and stays focused.
Worst case scenario: Good Olivia just isnt good and wants to have fun punishing Jake and doesnt want Kane to see it.

Wildcard scenario: Good Olivia doesnt want anybody else to get involved and protects Jake here on her own?

Other ideas?
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