VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[PickerLewd]

I think Anais was hallucinating when she wrote that.

I've played the three games she mentions as references, three absolute masterpieces. Mass Effect as a reference and the space setting is fine, but trying to recreate the social links and relationships of Persona 5 (4 is better to me ) and the HUGE decision complexity of BG3 in one adult game seems unbelievable to me.

I hope I am wrong .

 

[Sharpshooter890]

You should always save Maria regardless!

Yeah, but making that decision requires a spine, and subKane doesn't have one. Therefore, Maria must always die on sub playthroughs.

 

[PickerLewd]

Can the submissive Kane, naked and on his knees, quickly crawl to the unconscious Maria and save her? If so, Veronica's scientific genius is truly great!

At least in K4, if you ask permission, you can get up and go save her by walking, but below K4, I don't know, you have to ask Silver .

 

[Maviarab]

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Maybe...perhaps...but this is not Tess' future game, this is something different. Unless of course, someone can actual provide screenshotted proof of said confirmation from Tess. Without that....

However, as PL said...what it is getting ideas from...are ideas. Tess is a known fan of the 'mechanics' of ME/DA....I doubt it will be anything like it in reality. As for klead writer, also subject to change depending on how busy she is, she was looking for three writers only a few months ago to work on Anais' game...that Discord post was almost a year ago, which suggests to me she is/will not be the lead writer. Maybe give the final OK to someone elses work....but she does not have the time herself anymore.

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Part of the requirement of one of the writers was also to be able to convingly write 'teen locker-room' characters....

 

[Don Sucio]

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Oh Wow, i didn´t know about all of this. I knew Tess was planning to do more games but not so much info.

Anyway i think a school game but in the universe of KG could be interesting. I mean, the academy where the girls are trained and where poor Zach was humilliated and that stuff (i think he was involved there with those two sister whose names i don´t remember now) , i´m good with that, why not, is generic as fuck but i´m always up for a good school game

About a space game i don´t know, i´m not a fan of space games, in fact i don´t like when in KG there are space scenes ,is like those scenes get me out of the immersion. But i loved Mass effect and i´m a big fan of BG3 so, looks promising too.

I think Anais was hallucinating when she wrote that.

I've played the three games she mentions as references, three absolute masterpieces. Mass Effect as a reference and the space setting is fine, but trying to recreate the social links and relationships of Persona 5 (4 is better to me ) and the HUGE decision complexity of BG3 in one adult game seems unbelievable to me.

I hope I am wrong .

Is indeed a very high objetive , but i hope she achieves it, could be awesome!

 

[Stan5851]

At least in K4, if you ask permission, you can get up and go save her by walking, but below K4, I don't know, you have to ask Silver .

Submissive Kane is not only allowed to crawl on his knees, but to walk? Wait, guys, you can't just spill so many revelations in one day!

 

[PickerLewd]

I think for sure though:
DomKane taking over,
Status Quo being held,
Revolution ending (though how that will actually look is another question),
...and the supposed (what will be canon imo) off into space ending (which will lead into Tess' next VN set years in the future).

It is still only guess work currently though until we get further into the story.

OK, now that I am home I can write about the final World States:

The three I had in mind were:

* One of the sisters wins and gets married to a Dom Kane or keeps a Sub Kane as a pet.
* Kane runs away as a lone wolf or dies but destroys the whole system.
* Power Rangers into Space.

But when I read Maviarab's comment, the pieces fell into place and he is right:

* Dom Kane takes control of everything with dozens of different variables such as the status of each of the sisters, who ends up alive and the final relationships (probably evil Kane).

* Status Quo, the ending with a dead Kane and a sub Kane under K2 where inevitably a Karlson daughter is declared the winner and the evil empire continues.

* Revolution, this scenario is hard to predict because I can only think of joining the DeKnocks and we all know they are evil too, so it would be a case of swapping one executioner for another executioner using a different axe (probably a good Dom/Sub Kane).

* Escape into Space while the world goes to shit, Astrid and Veronica have to be here too or the ship won't take off, a very depressing scenario but I see it as a semi-revolution.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

At least in K4, if you ask permission, you can get up and go save her by walking, but below K4, I don't know, you have to ask Silver .

Just because Sub Kane is submissive, doesn’t mean he doesn’t take initiative! (Especially when it comes to licking… heh) When it comes to saving Maria, rank doesn’t matter! It’s for gaining favor of Veronica!! Crawling is an exceptional skill! And sub Kane is a mastery of it!

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[Pgsurprise]

Even on the dom path you start off as a slave (well treated though for...reasons), at the current state of play, you are on the verge of losing your slave status and becoming free and starting to assert your dominance/authority. However, that will not happen properly for some time, you may be the chosen one but you are in a world of sadistic, very powerful women

Meaning that so far it is primarily a femdom game? Thanks.

 

[Stan5851]

Oh Wow, i didn´t know about all of this. I knew Tess was planning to do more games but not so much info.

Anyway i think a school game but in the universe of KG could be interesting. I mean, the academy where the girls are trained and where poor Zach was humilliated and that stuff (i think he was involved there with those two sister whose names i don´t remember now) , i´m good with that, why not, is generic as fuck but i´m always up for a good school game

About a space game i don´t know, i´m not a fan of space games, in fact i don´t like when in KG there are space scenes ,is like those scenes get me out of the immersion. But i loved Mass effect and i´m a big fan of BG3 so, looks promising too.


Is indeed a very high objetive , but i hope she achieves it, could be awesome!

I want to make it clear that thoughts that this could be something like “Karlsson Academy” are just my speculations, and any specific information about the game's plot is being withheld for now... But I suggest to focus on Tess' official statements and so far we only know this (+/- some discussions on discord and probably on patreon)...

Hi, thought I would answer briefly here. I am reading the developer's thread section from like a year and there's some really good stuff in there that is helping me more than I expected! I tend to forget the devs too much on this site...definitely my bad.

There is a character in KG that cannot be killed no matter what because she is a major character in a game set in the future. In that game (and the other one more on that below) players will be able to "choose" one of four world states or a combo possibly of two of them that ended KG (I can't really see how I can save each ending over easily otherwise) and a few other facts about major characters. Now most of these characters are long gone as it's set in the future, but it may impact how that surviving female may act/talk about the past and what she does, etc. The male protagonist (who he is) may be impacted by the canon choices/endings.

Game # 1 will be more like a hero's journey (or villian) action/adventure sex/erotic game, I am only likely to write and support it not do the entire thing given time constraints. (I just don't have any more bandwidth) Much more "traditional" game with action/adventure and women to romance/harem, etc. But it will have a lot of choice/consequence. This game will likely start work sometime later this year but I will not be the lead dev but writing support. Not likely to have any femdom except (up to her) very vanilla style/gentle fun stuff with a specific romance possibly that is nowhere near as dark/harsh as KG.

Game #2 will be only femdom and set on one specific planet in the overall universe post KG and Game #1. I will not start this game until KG is finished. I prefer not to even share any details about this one yet, as I want to focus on the current game of course.

 

[Stan5851]

Meaning that so far it is primarily a femdom game? Thanks.

I would call it a femdom-oriented game, but you can avoid any displays of humiliation and femdom towards the main MC at all if you choose the Dominant path (the path of ascending from “formal slave” to "Caesar" owning the entire Сorporation and these sadistic women who mistakenly believe they are in charge).

 

[Maviarab]

OK, now that I am home I can write about the final World States:

The three I had in mind were:

* One of the sisters wins and gets married to a Dom Kane or keeps a Sub Kane as a pet.
* Kane runs away as a lone wolf or dies but destroys the whole system.
* Power Rangers into Space.

But when I read Maviarab's comment, the pieces fell into place and he is right:

* Dom Kane takes control of everything with dozens of different variables such as the status of each of the sisters, who ends up alive and the final relationships (probably evil Kane).

* Status Quo, the ending with a dead Kane and a sub Kane under K2 where inevitably a Karlson daughter is declared the winner and the evil empire continues.

* Revolution, this scenario is hard to predict because I can only think of joining the DeKnocks and we all know they are evil too, so it would be a case of swapping one executioner for another executioner using a different axe (probably a good Dom/Sub Kane).

* Escape into Space while the world goes to shit, Astrid and Veronica have to be here too or the ship won't take off, a very depressing scenario but I see it as a semi-revolution.

You have to remember there are (currently) 17 endings planned. Also, do not forget the conversation with Kane/Liv in the mesatopian ruins (that Alexander built) about picking ONE person....one person...for a two man flight....

Meaning that so far it is primarily a femdom game? Thanks.

No. Meaning you completely failed to comprehend what I wrote. In reality, given the narrative arc, backstory and Kane himself, I would argue it isn't a femdom game/story at all (as makes no real narrative sense for Kane to be a sub)....but Tess wanted to turn her original story into a femdom game, despite from the outset the dom path having just as much focus.

You're welcome

 

[motseer]

You have to remember there are (currently) 17 endings planned. Also, do not forget the conversation with Kane/Liv in the mesatopian ruins (that Alexander built) about picking ONE person....one person...for a two man flight....

No. Meaning you completely failed to comprehend what I wrote. In reality, given the narrative arc, backstory and Kane himself, I would argue it isn't a femdom game/story at all (as makes no real narrative sense for Kane to be a sub)....but Tess wanted to turn her original story into a femdom game, despite from the outset the dom path having just as much focus.

You're welcome

I know, I know... Sometimes you just wanna...

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[Silver_Crow117]

You have to remember there are (currently) 17 endings planned. Also, do not forget the conversation with Kane/Liv in the mesatopian ruins (that Alexander built) about picking ONE person....one person...for a two man flight....

No. Meaning you completely failed to comprehend what I wrote. In reality, given the narrative arc, backstory and Kane himself, I would argue it isn't a femdom game/story at all (as makes no real narrative sense for Kane to be a sub)....but Tess wanted to turn her original story into a femdom game, despite from the outset the dom path having just as much focus.

You're welcome

Speaking of “Endings”…

Spoiler: K1

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[Maviarab]

Speaking of “Endings”…

Spoiler: K1

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Poor poor subs...poo....wtf am I saying...

Have fun sucka's!!! Angelica...my cock getting dry....

 

[Stan5851]

Speaking of “Endings”…

Spoiler: K1

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Ok, in the first ending of K1, subKane is eaten by a shark in the ocean (the scene on Jules' yacht).
In the second ending, he gets burned in lava and sadistic women urinate on him.
3rd ending - wheeling.
4th - dismemberment.
5th - Kane is strapped to the nozzles of a space shuttle leaving Earth, and he burns up on takeoff..

No thanks, I'll stay Z4.

Spoiler: Meanwhile in the Throne room...

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[PickerLewd]

Speaking of “Endings”…

Spoiler: K1

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All I ask is that you do not upload screenshots of these endings for the sake of our mental health .

 

[Maviarab]

Ok, in the first ending of K1, subKane is eaten by a shark in the ocean (the scene on Jules' yacht).
In the second ending, he gets burned in lava and sadistic women urinate on him.
3rd ending - wheeling.
4th - dismemberment.
5th - Kane is strapped to the nozzles of a space shuttle leaving Earth, and he burns up on takeoff..

No thanks, I'll stay Z4.

Spoiler: Meanwhile in the Throne room...

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Post of the day Stan

 

[PickerLewd]

Ok, in the first ending of K1, subKane is eaten by a shark in the ocean (the scene on Jules' yacht).
In the second ending, he gets burned in lava and sadistic women urinate on him.
3rd ending - wheeling.
4th - dismemberment.
5th - Kane is strapped to the nozzles of a space shuttle leaving Earth, and he burns up on takeoff..

You forgot Jules' giant worm pet, called Zoulon or something like that in this thread .

Paradoxically, these endings are better than ending up as Doc's furniture in K2.

 

[Stan5851]

Paradoxically, these endings are better than ending up as Doc's furniture in K2.

Does she have an ending? All I've done with her so far is fuck her and Erica at the medical exam.

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