VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

I thought that Callista agreed to the program because otherwise Kane would die (not because the program is more important than her son))

So she states...how true is another matter.

 

[Popata20]

So she states...how true is another matter.

In this case, the outsider ending wouldn't make sense either (Callista wouldn't save her undeserving son)

 

[Maviarab]

In this case, the outsider ending wouldn't make sense either (Callista wouldn't save her undeserving son)

I meant more...I believe she believes it to be true. How possible it was or how serious Alexander's threat was...is another matter. This has been discussed in great detail in the past, just exactly, what could Alexander have done...and how...given Callista most likely far smarter than he was and had her own resources and contacts.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Although we might see some reaction from Elena in the beginning of part 2 on if we joined her faction or not…

Spoiler: Good to… (Harsh- optional… with the sticks…)

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[Popata20]

I meant more...I believe she believes it to be true. How possible it was or how serious Alexander's threat was...is another matter. This has been discussed in great detail in the past, just exactly, what could Alexander have done...and how...given Callista most likely far smarter than he was and had her own resources and contacts.

In this case, it remains an open question whether she will help his son at the end of the program if he is a sub (or worse, a slave)

 

[Maviarab]

In this case, it remains an open question whether she will help his son at the end of the program if he is a sub (or worse, a slave)

Not sure how you can think like that. Outsider endings for Dom/Sub are confiormed and it is also confirmed that Callista is far more willing to help Kane than Cole is/can.

The only real question which cannot possibly be answered yet is exactly how that will come about and whwther she will be directly involved or not. If you think her helping is 'up for debate'...I'm not really sure what else to say to you.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

In this case, it remains an open question whether she will help his son at the end of the program if he is a sub (or worse, a slave)

Depends if Callista survives or not…

 

[Maviarab]

Depends if Callista survives or not…

 

[Popata20]

Not sure how you can think like that. Outsider endings for Dom/Sub are confiormed and it is also confirmed that Callista is far more willing to help Kane than Cole is/can.

The only real question which cannot possibly be answered yet is exactly how that will come about and whwther she will be directly involved or not. If you think her helping is 'up for debate'...I'm not really sure what else to say to you.

Maybe I worded it wrong.
If I understand correctly, Callista only saves her son after the end of the program (if she and he are still alive)
Once again, sorry if I phrased it in a way that was not understandable, thank you for the answer

 

[Stan5851]

I thought that Callista agreed to the program because otherwise Kane would die (not because the program is more important than her son))

Of course, moreover, it is stated in direct text.

 

[Maviarab]

Maybe I worded it wrong.
If I understand correctly, Callista only saves her son after the end of the program (if she and he are still alive)
Once again, sorry if I phrased it in a way that was not understandable, thank you for the answer

Heh no worries, got you. Can be easy to misunderstand things at times. I would not however think of it as an automatic thing, as there are far too many variables involved but would imagine (maybe incorrectly) that there will be choices to be made along the way (perhapos more so on the dom route than the sub route) that will enable that option at the time.

 

[Popata20]

Heh no worries, got you. Can be easy to misunderstand things at times. I would not however think of it as an automatic thing, as there are far too many variables involved but would imagine (maybe incorrectly) that there will be choices to be made along the way (perhapos more so on the dom route than the sub route) that will enable that option at the time.

Heh no worries, got you. Can be easy to misunderstand things at times. I would not however think of it as an automatic thing, as there are far too many variables involved but would imagine (maybe incorrectly) that there will be choices to be made along the way (perhapos more so on the dom route than the sub route) that will enable that option at the time.

I think of course it depends on our choices whether Callista saves her own son in the end (from sub and slavery fate)

 

[Stan5851]

Heh no worries, got you. Can be easy to misunderstand things at times. I would not however think of it as an automatic thing, as there are far too many variables involved but would imagine (maybe incorrectly) that there will be choices to be made along the way (perhapos more so on the dom route than the sub route) that will enable that option at the time.

I would venture to guess that in the case of the Dom route, KaneDom won't need saving (this guy's gonna be fine as it is), and it's entirely possible that he will be the one who has to save someone (I can't help but think of that key choice in the temple that everyone had to make in season 1)..So I would sincerely hate for it to come to that, and for Kane to have to choose between Olivia's life and Callista's.As for the sub route, yeah, Callista will likely take full responsibility for getting her no-good son's ass out of the trouble he got himself into.

 

[PickerLewd]

I think of course it depends on our choices whether Callista saves her own son in the end (from sub and slavery fate)

Remember that Callista also has to take into account Kane's universe, which is very difficult to do .

For example, imagine Callista preparing the escape ship and the bags, and at the last minute going after Silver's Kane while he's licking Angelica's cunt:

Callista: Kane, we have to escape NOW, we have less than 5 minutes!

Silver's Kane: I don't know what you're talking about Mom, I'm already in Disneyland...

 

[Popata20]

I would venture to guess that in the case of the Dom route, KaneDom won't need saving (this guy's gonna be fine as it is), and it's entirely possible that he will be the one who has to save someone (I can't help but think of that key choice in the temple that everyone had to make in season 1)..So I would sincerely hate for it to come to that, and for Kane to have to choose between Olivia's life and Callista's.As for the sub route, yeah, Callista will likely take full responsibility for getting her no-good son's ass out of the trouble he got himself into.

But there we could choose to sacrifice ourselves by saving two family members

 

[rai1230]

I think of course it depends on our choices whether Callista saves her own son in the end (from sub and slavery fate)

yes but dont you find wired elena still treat the MC like a slave even after talking with Calista also Calista reaction to elena makes me feel she dose not have strong emotion to MC for example elena was angry at calista for hiding her daughter but calista never once told elena to treat the MC better and we know from the spoilers elena will continue to use the MC sexually (not complaining just saying)

 

[Popata20]

Remember that Callista also has to take into account Kane's universe, which is very difficult to do .

For example, imagine Callista preparing the escape ship and the bags, and at the last minute going after Silver's Kane while he's licking Angelica's cunt:

Callista: Kane, we have to escape NOW, we have less than 5 minutes!

Silver's Kane: I don't know what you're talking about Mom, I'm already in Disneyland...

Maybe even in this case Callista will decide and act in her son's place (as a sub, he can't really make responsible decisions)

 

[Maviarab]

I would venture to guess that in the case of the Dom route, KaneDom won't need saving (this guy's gonna be fine as it is), and it's entirely possible that he will be the one who has to save someone (I can't help but think of that key choice in the temple that everyone had to make in season 1)..So I would sincerely hate for it to come to that, and for Kane to have to choose between Olivia's life and Callista's.As for the sub route, yeah, Callista will likely take full responsibility for getting her no-good son's ass out of the trouble he got himself into.

Yeah it's difficult as a dom player to understand (currently at least) why you would want to just say screw it and go off and live away from it all...when you are on top of the world. Perhaps it will become a choice for a DomKane that does not 'make it to the top'....but again, how that will tie into the endings and world states...who knows at this conjecture.

SubKane does make a lot more sense...more of a rescue against his possible future than anything. As for the temple scene...all those are set flags and they all mean something:

Spoiler: Temple Flags and their meanings and choice decision

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We're already pretty sure that leave earth (Spaceship/Ark/Island4) is going to be an ending. What is interesting is, Kane can only grab Island4 points when talking to Veronica. Something a lot of people may not have picked up on (going back to an old discussion regarding the state of the current world and locations) is that all the 'Island4' images of the scientists waking up Astrid are labelled as 'Hawaii'...which is nowhere near St. Helena....

Those flags above will have relevence to this. We also have to remember, Tess likes (and has set a precedent) in using flags that are not called upon until episodes later (and the Walkthrough also explicitly states to make a save there as this is an important flag decision)....whether this ties into any Kane 'Outlander' ending...

 

[PickerLewd]

Hey, about those Temple Flags, I know Inanna, she appears at the end of Rebirth. As always, visual novels for adults add to our knowledge .

 

[Maviarab]

Hey, about those Temple Flags, I know Inanna, she appears at the end of Rebirth. As always, visual novels for adults add to our knowledge .

I've given very brief descriptions of their meanings, but if you have any kind of interest, you should look up all those Gods and Goddesses....very interesting. Tess used them for specific reasons. There is a lot of hidden ancient culture references within KG.