VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[PickerLewd]

Food stealer = Pamela, Teamu Juliette= chloe

My bad, I forgot that y'all didn't get that mystery with Dominique where Dom players had to figure out who stole food, and Chloe's whole thing is she's a Juliette wannabe, but she's Dom Kane's slave, and Angelica always whips her ass, so she's not very good at it.

I don't think I've ever played this event, or if I have, it must have been a long time ago.

By "food stealer" I thought you meant the decision you make with the food in the prison intro .

Kelly...dude...c'mon..she in your Pod...

Taylor..again...c'mon dude...she our pod trainer.

KG was one of the first AVNs I played years ago, I was new to this "world" and thought you could choose your path and have more freedom.

To see that I am telling the truth when I say that in my dom Kane was looking for a way to escape . I never paid any attention to the pod, I didn't even notice them , except for poor Amy, who suffers so much that I remember her well.

That's why I have to play everything with my current head, after having played more than 60 other AVNs, a "remaster" but of my gameplay.

 

[kinkyshin]

I will keep it simple

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But then you will doom Kane to a lifetime of Veronica's dirty talk in the bedroom.

"Kane, for psychological reasons, I will now compliment the size of your external sex organ. For our mutual benefit, please increase the velocity of your pelvic thrusts by 0.03 meters per second in my direction in order to minimize the time required for a female human to achieve an orgasm."

 

[Stan5851]

It's not overly difficult...I'm happy to give you a quick rundown of the basics in Dm if you need.

Agreed. I started using URM literally 1.5 weeks ago and haven't noticed any difficulties. (At least on a mundane level, like fixing this or that variable, flag or stat, without getting into the maze of deeper options).

 

[Stan5851]

OK, I'll play...

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Well, if we compare our "slave lists", they overlap in some ways, but I think that your "slave Nadia"



looks even less realistic than my "slave Juliette"


And if in the case of Juliette's slavery there will be only one limitation - whether Tess will want to give the Dom players a chance to take revenge on Jules by making her Kane's slave, then with Nadia it's much more complicated, because she is Kane's real sister, and Tess, knowing her attitude to incest, is unlikely to go for such a relationship between real brother and sister.

By the way, I wouldn't be in a hurry to judge Nadia...I have no reason not to believe those sub players who write that on the sub route Nadia's concern for KaneSub is very good and she really cares about his future...On the Dom track, it's hard for us to understand that because we're doing well... and KaneDom still has no idea who Nadia really is or what he really means to her. So far I find her to be a very interesting person and I look forward to getting to know her more.

 

[Maviarab]

Well, if we compare our "slave lists", they overlap in some ways, but I think that your "slave Nadia"

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looks even less realistic than my "slave Juliette"..

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And if in the case of Juliette's slavery there will be only one limitation - whether Tess will want to give the Dom players a chance to take revenge on Jules by making her Kane's slave, then with Nadia it's much more complicated, because she is Kane's real sister, and Tess, knowing her attitude to incest, is unlikely to go for such a relationship between real brother and sister.

By the way, I wouldn't be in a hurry to judge Nadia...I have no reason not to believe those sub players who write that on the sub route Nadia's concern for KaneSub is very good and she really cares about his future...On the Dom track, it's hard for us to understand that because we're doing well and so far our KaneDom has no idea who Nadia really is or what he really means to her. So far I find Nadia to be a pretty interesting person and I look forward to getting to know her more.

Yeah on a sliding scale of nice, caring, compassionate character to sadistic lunatic...Nadia is still very much in the camp leaning towards the latter. This is even shown in-game, especially when she talking to her own caged slave before Otto interrupts her (and she is very much part of the red rooms at Olivia's party). Can't really be refuted. She is just 'part of the system' herself.

On a sliding sacale of how she is compared to the vast majority of women in KG....then she a completely pussycat in comparison but is that really enough to redeem her ultimately? She still upper class, part of the elite, has her slaves, top of the food chain herself amost (mommy certainly is)....

Tough one...but I agree, she is an interesting character in so much as you say, we really don't know all that much about her do we....nor what she is really like deep down. Dom players even less so, she has far more content on the SubRoutes.

 

[Stan5851]

Yeah on a sliding scale of nice, caring, compassionate character to sadistic lunatic...Nadia is still very much in the camp leaning towards the latter. This is even shown in-game, especially when she talking to her own caged slave before Otto interrupts her. Can't really be refuted. She is just 'part of the system' herself.

On a sliding sacale of how she is compared to the vast majority of women in KG....then she a completely pussycat in comparison but is that really enough to redeem her ultimately? She still upper class, part of the elite, has her slaves, top of the food chain herself amost (mommy certainly is)....

Tough one...but I agree, she is an interesting character in so much as you say, we really don't know all that much about her do we....nor what she is really like deep down. Dom players even less so, she has far more content on the SubRoutes.

You're right, she's part of this vicious system, but I want to understand her motives..ow and why she became like this, because it's hardly Alexander's fault and most likely all the "merit" belongs to Cynthia...who, by the way, also remains a big mystery.. On the one hand, Cynthia is a cynical sadist who can kill a slave at the snap of her fingers just because he was clumsy, but on the other hand...we still don't know what she's really like on the inside or if there's something else behind that sadistic facade.

Same with Phoebe, who is no less interesting (IMO) character than Nadia...Yes, we (Doms) know about her "righteous revenge" on Harry, but the whole story is still hidden from us, and this woman herself seems to be the bearer of many secrets..So, I think it will be interesting to learn more about them all...As for retribution/revenge, I have no doubt that Tess will give us such an opportunity, but first, as the investigators would say, we need to understand the motives and background..

Here's someone I definitely don't want to understand more deeply, it's Charlotte... For her small appearance in the frame (I was given a K1 save in this thread (months ago), and I saw the whole scene in its entirety, the one where the murder of the defenseless slave that Charlotte initiated takes place)..And to me that scene said it all..So my KaneDom will definitely not hesitate before blowing that thing's brains out..But others deserve to know more about them...Also, I could never kill my own sister (even if it's a game character).To me it's beyond good and evil...I can certainly punish Nadia, make her redeem herself, but not kill her.

 

[Maviarab]

You're right, she's part of this vicious system, but I want to understand her motives..How and why she became like this, because we can't blame it all on Alexander again, it's obvious that her mother Cynthia probably did her "best", who, by the way, is a mystery. On the one hand, Cynthia is a cynical sadist who can kill a slave at the snap of her fingers just because he was clumsy, but on the other hand...we still don't know what she's really like on the inside or if there's something else behind that sadistic facade.

Yup...fair points and with Cole out of the way....one can only towards Cynthia as her influence.

Same with Phoebe, who is no less interesting (IMO) character than Nadia...Yes, we (Doms) know about her "righteous revenge" on Harry, but the whole story is still hidden from us, and this woman herself seems to be the bearer of many secrets..So, I think it will be interesting to learn more about them all...As for retribution/revenge, I have no doubt that Tess will give us such an opportunity, but first, as the investigators would say, we need to understand the motives and background..

Fair points and Phoebe is indeed interesting. She also has the single best scene in the story so far hahahaha...I still chuckle at that...

Here's someone I definitely don't want to understand more deeply, it's Charlotte... For her small appearance in the frame (I was given a K1 save in this thread (months ago), and I saw the whole scene in its entirety, the one where the murder of the defenseless slave that Charlotte initiated takes place)..And to me that scene said it all..So my KaneDom will definitely not hesitate before blowing that thing's brains out..But others deserve to know more about them...Also, I could never kill my own sister (even if it's a game character).To me it's beyond good and evil...I can certainly punish Nadia, make her redeem herself, but not kill.

Yeah Charlotte is the very deffinition of drunk on power crazy. She a more refined and cultured Jules for me...

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Yeah, I’m not to sure what Nadia will contribute to an extent… like you’ve guys said she’s more prominent in the sub side… even saying that she’ll be around during the gameshow… not sure if she’d contributing or not in the gameshow… I do know Tess wanted to get to Nadia but it’ll probably happen in part 3… either way we’re gonna have to see how she is with Kane…

her dialogue is different if your Sub Kane is k4 compared to k1-3 saying, “Those Karlsson bitches make it tough” or something like that and k1-3 “do you really want to be someone’s slave/Servant” or something around that…

I do think she most likely will be part of Veronica’s faction, which may mean the DeKocks are part of Veronica’s faction.. but we’ll have to see!..

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[Stan5851]

Yup...fair points and with Cole out of the way....one can only towards Cynthia as her influence.

Okay, I think I know the name of another beta tester for the new update, hehe. But other than kidding, Mav, what makes you think Cole will get "out of the way"? As I recall Tess's posts, she implied that he should be fine. Sure, Cynthia has a lot more influence than Cole, but it's a matter of which way you look at it..

Аfter all, the very survival of the mainland depends on Cole's position, so theoretically there's nothing stopping him from using that "own indispensability factor" to influence Veronica and Dominique to help Kane (although I don't think his influence will be necessary on the Dom route).

Silver_Crow117, may I ask what made you laugh so much in my post?

 

[Maviarab]

Okay, I think I know the name of another beta tester for the new update, hehe. But other than kidding, Mav, what makes you think Cole will get "out of the way"? As I recall Tess's posts, she implied that he should be fine. Sure, Cynthia has a lot more influence than Cole, but it's a matter of which way you look at it..

Аfter all, the very survival of the mainland depends on Cole's position, so theoretically there's nothing stopping him from using that "own indispensability factor" to influence Veronica and Dominique to help Kane (although I don't think his influence will be necessary in the Dom route).

Silver_Crow117, may I ask what made you laugh so much in my post?

Ahh no you misunderstood me...

I meant, with Cole out of the way (ie...exiled to God-knows-where, we assume also by way of threat towards Callista/unborn Kane)....Young Nadia only had Cynthia (we assume) as an influence growing up. I think we can all agree that Cole is a pretty stand up guy from what little we know about him...and going by Phoebe's words (in the best scene of the story) to Elena and Yvette....Cynthia is not a woman to be messed with.

 

[Vleder]

Still about the topic of URM, I encourage everyone to use it, especially in complex games like KG. Users can watch the flow of relevant information going on in the background and use it to build their own gallery of scenes, for example, or compare the progress of variables values. In some games where devs had limited save in numbers and story moments, I found out that it has a more powerful save feature than the standard AVN. But still, my favorite functions are the renaming (or text replacement) and the option to customize almost any textbox (removing anoying side pics, quick menus or other intrusive things).
I've been using it for over two years and generally go without any mods.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Okay, I think I know the name of another beta tester for the new update, hehe. But other than kidding, Mav, what makes you think Cole will get "out of the way"? As I recall Tess's posts, she implied that he should be fine. Sure, Cynthia has a lot more influence than Cole, but it's a matter of which way you look at it..

Аfter all, the very survival of the mainland depends on Cole's position, so theoretically there's nothing stopping him from using that "own indispensability factor" to influence Veronica and Dominique to help Kane (although I don't think his influence will be necessary on the Dom route).

Silver_Crow117, may I ask what made you laugh so much in my post?

Just the blowing brains out part lmao

 

[rosethorn87]

is there any information on the next update?

 

[Maviarab]

is there any information on the next update?

Next week with any luck
Future ref...use the damn search function at the top right of the thread. Pro-tip...search Mistress by member (myself). You will find all the relevent information you require.

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Yeah on a sliding scale of nice, caring, compassionate character to sadistic lunatic...Nadia is still very much in the camp leaning towards the latter. This is even shown in-game, especially when she talking to her own caged slave before Otto interrupts her (and she is very much part of the red rooms at Olivia's party). Can't really be refuted. She is just 'part of the system' herself.

On a sliding sacale of how she is compared to the vast majority of women in KG....then she a completely pussycat in comparison but is that really enough to redeem her ultimately? She still upper class, part of the elite, has her slaves, top of the food chain herself amost (mommy certainly is)....

Tough one...but I agree, she is an interesting character in so much as you say, we really don't know all that much about her do we....nor what she is really like deep down. Dom players even less so, she has far more content on the SubRoutes.

I CAN FIX HER!!!111

 

[Stan5851]

Maviarab, you already know that English is not my native language and sometimes I face "translation difficulties". Could you please help me to understand what Tess meant in this phrase, which I have highlighted in a separate color?

Did I understand correctly that this will be a kind of "cutting down/reducing" of the sex scenes and that in future scenes with Olivia and the Council members (Karlsson sisters) Kane will not have such a pronounced dominant role and everything will be "on equal footing"? Or should that Tess phrase be taken the other way around, and that in these future sex scenes with Olivia and the Board members, our KaneDom will, on the contrary, be even more assertive than it is now?

From the official Ep8 walkthrough:

Z rank: Kane will NOT get to Z1 by Part 3, but in Episode 9 it will be possible if he hits a key flag within the M rank outcome. If on this track, Episode 9 Is really when Kane will finally kind of "break free" from a lot of oversight and the narrative will shift a bit more to Kane actively planning/being more proactive versus reactive. There will also be less female/male pair scenes if desired (meaning Kane is the highest ranking person in the scene, not always with say Olivia or a Board member for a lot of scenes) as well.
This long-term planning is by design because he did not start off as strongly as Olivia and had to bide his time patiently, etc. I feel the game is much more realistic if Kane had to work his way up so to speak versus just fucking every female right away, etc. So think of this unique situation as Kane being told he is now M rank, but on a special fast track for executive training. He will in this status be treated differently than a "normal" M ranked Kane at the end of Part 3.

 

[Maviarab]

Maviarab, you already know that English is not my native language and sometimes I face "translation difficulties". Could you please help me to understand what Tess meant in this phrase, which I have highlighted in a separate color?

Did I understand correctly that this will be a kind of "cutting down/reducing" of the sex scenes and that in future scenes with Olivia and the Council members (Karlsson sisters) Kane will not have such a pronounced dominant role and everything will be "on equal footing"? Or should that Tess phrase be taken the other way around, and that in these future sex scenes with Olivia and the Board members, our KaneDom will, on the contrary, be even more assertive than it is now?

From the official Ep8 walkthrough:

Z rank: Kane will NOT get to Z1 by Part 3, but in Episode 9 it will be possible if he hits a key flag within the M rank outcome. If on this track, Episode 9 Is really when Kane will finally kind of "break free" from a lot of oversight and the narrative will shift a bit more to Kane actively planning/being more proactive versus reactive. There will also be less female/male pair scenes if desired (meaning Kane is the highest ranking person in the scene, not always with say Olivia or a Board member for a lot of scenes) as well.
This long-term planning is by design because he did not start off as strongly as Olivia and had to bide his time patiently, etc. I feel the game is much more realistic if Kane had to work his way up so to speak versus just fucking every female right away, etc. So think of this unique situation as Kane being told he is now M rank, but on a special fast track for executive training. He will in this status be treated differently than a "normal" M ranked Kane at the end of Part 3.

Could mean a lot of things but the way I personally read it and take it is that in every scene with Kane...there is a higher ranking female there too. You ever conciously noticed that? I take that sentence to mean this will no longer be the case, be that on a sexual or non-sexual scene.

Kane will become his own man...without the need of a higher rank being around. I could be completely wrong but that's how I read it.

 

[Stan5851]

is there any information on the next update?

-> #12,952

 

[Sharpshooter890]

There will also be less female/male pair scenes if desired (meaning Kane is the highest ranking person in the scene, not always with say Olivia or a Board member for a lot of scenes) as well.

Sometimes I feel like I need a personal Rosetta stone to decipher what Tess means. I think she could phrase these things a bit clearer, she's certainly capable of that.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

is there any information on the next update?

Twas the night before Christmas, Whipping sounds fill the nightly room…

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