Ayhsel

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And the players who are practically allergic to said fetish will likely not play that game even if it offers the dom path, simply because they will dislike the dommes in it. I think the majority of players following the dom path are players who don't give a shit and just want to play a good porn game (some of the comments here allude to that too). I mean, I don't even know wtf path I'm on since I always choose based on situation and characters.
Agree on this. I am here for the story mainly, not "genre".

For example, I am going on dom path simply because it was suggested IN GAME/STORYWISE that it was the smarter thing to do in character. Had the game suggested to go full slave I would have had no problem with it. Similar by taste related with picking the sisters. I am going for Veronica as she is by far the most interesting in my eyes.

I am simply trying to play as how I would act on those situations if I could and I would try to stay on top.

I do plan to play a "selected path" later when the game is finished probably. But for now I am sticking to my guts and doing what I feel is best as "Ayhsel" in that situation.

Today I am playing new chapter. Can't wait!
 
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Aseratrix

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Yeah, this actually makes a lot of sense to me too. I do wonder how many don't try the game at all due to the labeling of it though...I kind of figured at the start I would have a smaller number of Patreons but maybe some higher averages per person, and this has kind of gone that way so far. I can play almost any kind of game that's interesting (I don't really have an automatic shutoff button for a game except maybe something morally offensive to me) but I realize that's not the norm.
If you made a complete maledom game, it would be 200% more popular. But as far as I am concerned, we femdom lovers just got lucky to have someone as talented and expressive as you to make a top notch game we can enjoy. When it comes to adult games, the most interesting part is the adult content, or so it should be. I can't imagine playing an "incest-harem" game just because it has an interesting detective plot, while not being able to enjoy the adult content.

I guess if someone would want to make a wildly popular game, theoretically it would be easy to sort out which genres/fetishes are the most popular and make a game based on those. But that would be like selling your soul to the highest bidder.
 

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When it comes to adult games, the most interesting part is the adult content, or so it should be.
Can't agree on this. No matter how good the adult content is. Take the story and character development away, and it can be fun at best, but not good.

What makes this game apart (also true for Estate Dominate in your signature) is that it is not simply adult content. Character are not there simply to interact with the player. They have their own objectives, their own desires. MC is simply another person living in the universe.
 

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Can't agree on this. No matter how good the adult content is. Take the story and character development away, and it can be fun at best, but not good.

What makes this game apart (also true for Estate Dominate in your signature) is that it is not simply adult content. Character are not there simply to interact with the player. They have their own objectives, their own desires. MC is simply another person living in the universe.
I wouldn't say the story and char development doesn't matter, but if the game would not contain the adult content I yearn for, I would probably not try it. Unless I was searching specifically for games without adult content.

Let me rephrase it: Karlsson's Gambit and Estate: Dominate would be good stories even without adult content, I agree. Yet it was the specific adult content which led me to them. If I was not after adult games, but only after games with a good plot and mechanics, I probably wouldn't even found this site.

Finally, given that the majority of the games here do have a focus on adult content, and there are some types I cannot bear (like incest, loli or maledom), and if those are not optional, then for me that content would significantly impact on the enjoyment of any plot.
 
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I wouldn't say the story and char development doesn't matter, but if the game would not contain the adult content I yearn for, I would probably not try it. Unless I was searching specifically for games without adult content.

Let me rephrase it: Karlsson's Gambit and Estate: Dominate would be good stories even without adult content, I agree. Yet it was the specific adult content which led me to them. If I was not after adult games, but only after games with a good plot and mechanics, I probably wouldn't even found this site.

Finally, given that the majority of the games here do have a focus on adult content, and there are some types I cannot bear (like incest, loli or maledom), and if those are not optional, then for me that content would significantly impact on the enjoyment of any plot.
Well, I would invert the "necessary conditions" as I can play games without adult content provided the story is good. And good story>sexual content.

But now I get what you mean. Both KG an dED intertwine both story elements and character development with adult content really well so it is hard to picture them without one or the other.
 
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Well, I would invert the "necessary conditions" as I can play games without adult content provided the story is good. And good story>sexual content.

But now I get what you mean. Both KG amd ED intertwine both very story elements and character development with adult content really well so it is hard to picture them without one or the other.
Exactly, they are like an ice-cream which surprisingly also gives you cerebral tingles.
 

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Hmm, I see the download on the post where I am linking. Maybe it's something on my end? But I can download it ok.
Just to clarify I can download the walkthrough perfectly if I manually go to the post with the walkthrough download, the link in the OP just sends me one page to far.

I enjoy this VN a lot, I am not really into Femdom perse (but I do enjoy powerfull assertive women roles) I play this like an adventure or like a (soft) horror movie never know what happens next, so lots of thrills :)
 

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But "elena mentor" point still bugging me. Because when Patricia reported to her mistress about mc's passed it her reply is "interesting".
If mc decided against Elenas mentoring, no special reply from pat's mistress.
My mc will not be a puppet to sadistic bitches. Never!!
 

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Completed latest update.
But "elena mentor" point still bugging me. Because when Patricia reported to her mistress about mc's passed it her reply is "interesting".
If mc decided against Elenas mentoring, no special reply from pat's mistress.
My mc will not be a puppet to sadistic bitches. Never!!
Oh, mine will always be :)
 
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But "elena mentor" point still bugging me. Because when Patricia reported to her mistress about mc's passed it her reply is "interesting".
If mc decided against Elenas mentoring, no special reply from pat's mistress.
My mc will not be a puppet to sadistic bitches. Never!!
That doesn't matter. Clearly Elena is connected to Olivia and will be on her side.
 
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But "elena mentor" point still bugging me. Because when Patricia reported to her mistress about mc's passed it her reply is "interesting".
If mc decided against Elenas mentoring, no special reply from pat's mistress.
My mc will not be a puppet to sadistic bitches. Never!!
If I'm completely honest? My main character is actually Olivia. The 'MC' is going to work his nuts off to either please absolutely everyone, or force their submission, purely so that he can provide Olivia with whatever assistance she might ask for... :devilish:
 
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OK .. now ... the actual kink of dom or sub is strictly in the bedroom,

Making it dom like a way of life or death turns it upside down.
The fact pain is inflicted both phisical and emotional kind of defeats the purpose
of any kink - to give pleasure.

About the realistic aspect ... this is Rome, where some have life+death decision over others.
Could be westworld lost ark branching out their business.
This is my favorite game here. It's really rare to find a femdom game with a good realistic plot. Plus all the characters are unique and memorable, not only with their appearances but their intriguing goals and motivations as well. I replayed everything from the beginning since I didn't want to be done with the new content so fast. Now I will try the new chapter again with different sub choices to get the most of it.
Oh, mine will always be :)
You have to be whatever to be a dom /alpha / leader.
You do not care like 4 reals 4 reals.
MC might be channeling the comedian form that wa t ch m en movie.
MC could also become the k ok er where senseless life taking becomes a habbit.
 

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After playing this update, I have a couple of theories. Now I may be forgetting some of the details from the previous updates, so I could be way off, but here it goes:

First theory is that Callista was not the mother's real name and she was actually one of Alexander's sisters along with maybe Elena. I think that Callista wanted her kids to have a harder life growing up to make them stronger and to have a different perspective on morality than the Karlsson sisters. That would make them cousins and maybe that is were the incest aspect that was mentioned by the dev comes from.

The second theory, which goes along with the first one, is that Callista isn't really dead and she is actually the Board member that was absent at Olivia's meeting with the Board. Maybe she is also the one that is meeting with the women in the mask. Not sure who the masked woman is, maybe she hasn't been introduced yet.
 
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Aseratrix

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OK .. now ... the actual kink of dom or sub is strictly in the bedroom,

Making it dom like a way of life or death turns it upside down.
The fact pain is inflicted both phisical and emotional kind of defeats the purpose
of any kink - to give pleasure.
I completely disagree that D/s is or must be limited to the bedroom, that's a very limited pov, and from mine totally mistaken. You have no idea how much pleasure I derive from this game, precisely because its not mere bedroom-kink! Pleasure is a misnomer, jouissance may be closer, psycho-sexual satisfaction perhaps, but what I experience from being dominated by females is definitely something different from mere pleasure in the colloquial sense of the term.
 
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