VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2 Test] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Sharpshooter890]

During the game, I diligently protected sister from receiving evil points.

the sister currently does not have a single evil point - purely good (and a lot at that) and approximately equally divided between sub and dom - but...................... this is not prevented her from throwing darts at a living person's ass...
AUTHOR, WHERE IS THE LOGIC???

With the good points that I scored for sister, I wouldn’t be surprised if Alessandra or Kayumi were throwing darts - but not her,
but she no shows sad face - but boasts that she hit the bull’s eye...

(logic? the communists must have invented it!)

maybe Alessandra forced her to throw the dart? - "Either you throw this dart into the ass of this unfortunate slave or I fire you!"
Maybe Kayumi took sister’s hand and threw a dart right at the target with her hand?

Sorry, but according to all the laws of logic, if the sister was forced to do such an act, forced to step on the throat of her own self, then she definitely would not have giggled, hitting exactly a living target.
and I don’t believe that just a week in such a post could corrupt sister into a rotten brain devoid of any logic.
or perhaps the sister must have been on a memory-stupefying drug?

It was the illogicality of sister’s actions that infuriated me.
or maybe it was the illogicality of the author himself, who was not familiar with the laws of logic?

*sigh* sorry, a woman who is kind by nature cannot throw darts at a living person. it just can't. or she definitely won’t be able to smile for a long time after she was forced to do so. such an act will make her depressed for a long time.

I think in that particular scene she has an internal monologue that roughly says she needs to keep up appearances in a place like that. Having said that, I agree that, if you play Olivia as Good/submissive, she is quite inconsistent with her portrayal in the renders. Most of the renders and dialogue were clearly made with a dominant Olivia in mind, and she is yet to pay the price for beeing weak in a place like that (I hope the dev will eventually deliver on that).

 

[Maviarab]

During the game, I diligently protected sister from receiving evil points.

the sister currently does not have a single evil point - purely good (and a lot at that) and approximately equally divided between sub and dom - but...................... this is not prevented her from throwing darts at a living person's ass...
AUTHOR, WHERE IS THE LOGIC???

With the good points that I scored for sister, I wouldn’t be surprised if Alessandra or Kayumi were throwing darts - but not her,
but she no shows sad face - but boasts that she hit the bull’s eye...

(logic? the communists must have invented it!)

maybe Alessandra forced her to throw the dart? - "Either you throw this dart into the ass of this unfortunate slave or I fire you!"
Maybe Kayumi took sister’s hand and threw a dart right at the target with her hand?

Sorry, but according to all the laws of logic, if the sister was forced to do such an act, forced to step on the throat of her own self, then she definitely would not have giggled, hitting exactly a living target.
and I don’t believe that just a week in such a post could corrupt sister into a rotten brain devoid of any logic.
or perhaps the sister must have been on a memory-stupefying drug?

It was the illogicality of sister’s actions that infuriated me.
or maybe it was the illogicality of the author himself, who was not familiar with the laws of logic?

*sigh* sorry, a woman who is kind by nature cannot throw darts at a living person. it just can't. or she definitely won’t be able to smile for a long time after she was forced to do so. such an act will make her depressed for a long time.

Sister is slightly drunk in that scene...however...what you completely failed to miss is:

She is also perhaps the second most intelligent person on the island behind Veronica. she is well aware (and does even say so numerous times) that she will have tio do many things she doesn't want to in order to 'keep up appearances'. This is her, using her brain, taking part in activities that on the face of it, are not too extreme etc...

Otherwise the other sisters are literally going to eat her alive.

 

[ramvivat]

Otherwise the other sisters are literally going to eat her alive.

crap! maybe you're damn right... damn... yes, there is a certain logic in this...
but damn how frustrating this is... poor sister... she must have stepped on the throat of her own self...
that's why she was pretty drunk.
thanks. this explains.

but hey i have a question - is it possible to please Chanel without offending Janko (or Amy)?
(i think Chanel is to blame for my K7->K5?)

 

[ramvivat]

Is your Kane, a sub? Mine is a dom and I have yet to have seen good olivia commit any evil acts.
Also, the author's a woman.

my MC is Good=14 Dom=7 Evil=1 Sub=0
Sis Good=10 Sum=7 Dom=5 Evil=0

 

[depeche mode]

I dont like that in the evil router Kane, who has already killed two people, still has an internal monologue about how Olivia Is evil or how the friend Is hurting. Just go full psycho

 

[Maviarab]

crap! maybe you're damn right... damn... yes, there is a certain logic in this...
but damn how frustrating this is... poor sister... she must have stepped on the throat of her own self...
that's why she was pretty drunk.
thanks. this explains.

but hey i have a question - is it possible to please Chanel without offending Janko (or Amy)?
(i think Chanel is to blame for my K7->K5?)

If you mean in the spa scene then no. Any interaction will upset Janko. Janko is not there of her own free will and despises any negative action/action endorsing the sadism/humilation etc or being nice to evil characters (and if romancing her will kill any romance with her)

Which is a shame...cos Chanel is damn hot...a lunatic...but hot lol. Understand the power groups and cliques...Chanel is very much on the dark side and friends with Sam/Pat etc.

 

[motseer]

If you mean in the spa scene then no. Any interaction will upset Janko. Janko is not there of her own free will and despises any negative action/action endorsing the sadism/humilation etc or being nice to evil characters (and if romancing her will kill any romance with her)

Which is a shame...cos Chanel is damn hot...a lunatic...but hot lol. Understand the power groups and cliques...Chanel is very much on the dark side and friends with Sam/Pat etc.

Yeah, I wanted to hate fuck Chanel but Junko is worth 10 Chanel's so I abstained.

 

[Maviarab]

Yeah, I wanted to hate fuck Chanel but Junko is worth 10 Chanel's so I abstained.

I have multiple runs for diff LI....Junko too sweet not have a save for her romance....also Chanel way too hot (and that scene) not to have a save for all those type of chars too rofl.

Ofc...no one compares to our sweet Olivia.

 

[Stan5851]

(i think Chanel is to blame for my K7->K5?)

As for Chanel's guilt, I think your downgrade K7->K5 happened because you made certain choices that led to it. My point is that KG is a pretty complex game in terms of a lot of decisions (not always obvious) and a lot of the same variables that can affect your main MC. Judging by your MC's stats, you chose the Dom path, but somewhere along the way you slowed down, allowing Kane to act as a sub and this is the result. If this doesn't conflict with your playthrough style, I would strongly suggest using the Sancho Mod (MultiMod) or at least the official walkthrough.

During the game, I diligently protected sister from receiving evil points.

the sister currently does not have a single evil point - purely good (and a lot at that) and approximately equally divided between sub and dom - but...................... this is not prevented her from throwing darts at a living person's ass...
AUTHOR, WHERE IS THE LOGIC???

With the good points that I scored for sister, I wouldn’t be surprised if Alessandra or Kayumi were throwing darts - but not her,
but she no shows sad face - but boasts that she hit the bull’s eye...

(logic? the communists must have invented it!)

maybe Alessandra forced her to throw the dart? - "Either you throw this dart into the ass of this unfortunate slave or I fire you!"
Maybe Kayumi took sister’s hand and threw a dart right at the target with her hand?

Sorry, but according to all the laws of logic, if the sister was forced to do such an act, forced to step on the throat of her own self, then she definitely would not have giggled, hitting exactly a living target.
and I don’t believe that just a week in such a post could corrupt sister into a rotten brain devoid of any logic.
or perhaps the sister must have been on a memory-stupefying drug?

It was the illogicality of sister’s actions that infuriated me.
or maybe it was the illogicality of the author himself, who was not familiar with the laws of logic?

*sigh* sorry, a woman who is kind by nature cannot throw darts at a living person. it just can't. or she definitely won’t be able to smile for a long time after she was forced to do so. such an act will make her depressed for a long time.

I can only confirm what the players above replied to you - in the actual Good Dom walkthrough, Olivia will never throw darts at anyone. So there's nothing wrong with the developers' logic. Good Olivia does a minimum of bad things, and what she does do is more geared towards looking good to the sadistic women around her.. Like letting a common slave lick her pussy or letting a slave kiss her heel in public. (etc.)

Olivia, like Kane, makes a number of key decisions that affect the development of her personality and even the characters around her (not all of them). Therefore, it is up to you to decide who your Olivia turns into. For example, if you let her play "fake cops" - there will be one outcome (triggering one of the important decisions), if you choose a different path, it will be different. Anyway, try, experiment, or use a mod/walkthrough if such experiments are not to your liking.

 

[motseer]

As for Chanel's guilt, I think your downgrade K7->K5 happened because you made certain choices that led to it. My point is that KG is a pretty complex game in terms of a lot of decisions (not always obvious) and a lot of the same variables that can affect your main MC. Judging by your MC's stats, you chose the Dom path, but somewhere along the way you slowed down, allowing Kane to act as a sub and this is the result. If this doesn't conflict with your playthrough style, I would strongly suggest using the Sancho Mod (MultiMod) or at least the official walkthrough.

Yeah, getting the play through I want is possible by trial and error but Sancho makes it soooooooooo much easier. Sometimes it even helps make sense of all the crazy. Heh... Jus' Sayin'

 

[Maviarab]

As for Chanel's guilt, I think your downgrade K7->K5 happened because you made certain choices that led to it. My point is that KG is a pretty complex game in terms of a lot of decisions (not always obvious) and a lot of the same variables that can affect your main MC. Judging by your MC's stats, you chose the Dom path, but somewhere along the way you slowed down, allowing Kane to act as a sub and this is the result. If this doesn't conflict with your playthrough style, I would strongly suggest using the Sancho Mod (MultiMod) or at least the official walkthrough.

I can only confirm what the players above replied to you - in the actual Good Dom walkthrough, Olivia will never throw darts at anyone. So there's nothing wrong with the developers' logic. Good Olivia does a minimum of bad things, and what she does do is more geared towards looking good to the sadistic women around her.. Like letting a common slave lick her pussy or letting a slave kiss her heel in public. (etc.)

Olivia, like Kane, makes a number of key decisions that affect the development of her personality and even the characters around her (not all of them). Therefore, it is up to you to decide who your Olivia turns into. For example, if you let her play "fake cops" - there will be one outcome (triggering one of the important decisions), if you choose a different path, it will be different. Anyway, try, experiment, or use a mod/walkthrough if such experiments are not to your liking.

Yeah, getting the play through I want is possible by trial and error but Sancho makes it soooooooooo much easier. Sometimes it even helps make sense of all the crazy. Heh... Jus' Sayin'

Just a thought guys? Why we helping a K5 peasent? I'ma use his ass as a table in my new beach side property. Might even gift him to one of the sisters.... hehe...heh...muhaaahahahaaaaaa.....

 

[Maviarab]

On another note (being silly first...but also serious with a possible game plot)...I still have my golden ticket too! So..if I hit K10...I could use that to skip 10...and go straight to Z1....and simultaniously demote the above guy down to K3?

Bwaaahhahahahahaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.......

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Yeah, I wanted to hate fuck Chanel but Junko is worth 10 Chanel's so I abstained.

Yea I went the evil route and ignored her cuz I wanted to take kasumi's virginity

 

[motseer]

Yea I went the evil route and ignored her cuz I wanted to take kasumi's virginity

Yeah, the temptation is definitely there. I'd like to hate fuck kasumi too. But... I'm too much of a white night. So, Imma put Olivia, Veronica and Junko in my harem along with a few other redeemables... and make slaves of the rest.

 

[Stan5851]

Yeah, the temptation is definitely there. I'd like to hate fuck kasumi too. But... I'm too much of a white night. So, Imma put Olivia, Veronica and Junko in my harem along with a few other redeemables... and make slaves of the rest.

I'm trying to be pessimistic for now, so that if our inflated expectations of the game's endings don't come true, I won't be too upset about it. For starters, I'll be very happy when that long-awaited moment finally comes and the Kane+Olivia love alliance becomes a reality, and the rest, including the harem and slave set you mentioned...we'll see.

I don't argue, the same Juliette sitting at Kane's (and Olivia's) feet on a leash and obediently waiting for her masters' orders looks seductive, but we still have no idea what Tess has planned for each of them. Some may trivially not live to see that happy moment.)

 

[Stan5851]

On another note (being silly first...but also serious with a possible game plot)...I still have my golden ticket too! So..if I hit K10...I could use that to skip 10...and go straight to Z1....and simultaniously demote the above guy down to K3?

Bwaaahhahahahahaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.......

Looks like you have to choose one thing: either a Z1 K10 for yourself, or a rank downgrade for this guy. If you think back to the final of 0.6.2, it's clear that you can't use kpass for two actions at the same time. And from the looks of it, it can only be used to maintain our current rank, not to increase it.)
Olivia: One last thing...I understand Kane has something called a KPass?
Chanel: Yes Mistress. It allows him to preserve his rank or use it even on others...

 

[Stan5851]

Maviarab, at least I'm excited about the fact that those who can get K10 rank will have their own special way up, different from K9.
K9 → After Episode 8, K9 can still move up easier than
ranks below, but getting K10 by the end of Episode 8 opens its own path.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I don't argue, the same Juliette sitting at Kane's (and Olivia's) feet on a leash and obediently waiting for her masters' orders looks seductive, but we still have no idea what Tess has planned for each of them. Some may trivially not live to see that happy moment.)

I believe Juliette would die before she let something like that happen

 

[ciberma7865]

I believe Juliette would die before she let something like that happen

who said she would have the possibility to do so ?

 

[Stan5851]

I believe Juliette would die before she let something like that happen

She may have deserved such a fate, but imagine Juliette's horror at being ranked K1 and teetering on the brink of life and death. For her, who considers herself a "celestial" and a priori a superior being compared to the wretched slaves.

Life imprisonment is considered a much more cruel punishment than the death penalty. Therefore, viewed from this perspective, Juliette's slavery may well prove to be even more terrifying to her than death. For example, she could periodically fall into the hands of miners or other people offended by Karlson's group who would rape her for hours, or, for example, all the things she did to her slaves could happen to her again, but at the same time, Kane and Olivia would leave her on the verge of life, not to let her die from the torture. In general, you can think of a lot of things here, you just need to turn on a little dark imagination.