VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2 Test] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[MilesEdgeworth]

Happy holidays to everybody. I hope you're all having a blast

To weigh in on the earlier Veronica conversation, I won't call her a psycho for experiments. They are very ... But given the world building, that makes sense. I will, however, call her out for her unnecessary inventions. What is a potion that makes a person feel like they're on fire used for? Not to mention her death juices that she's created for her sister's pleasures.

 

[Spacy7]

torrent link any one?

 

[Stan5851]

What is a potion that makes a person feel like they're on fire used for? Not to mention her death juices that she's created for her sister's pleasures.

If you're talking about the spray that was used on Zach at the beginning of the game, it has a different effect, increasing the pain sensation on the area of the body where the spray was rubbed in.

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I think if there was a spray/drug that made people "on fire" they would just die of pain shock, but I don't recall such a drug in the game. I'm not defending the immorality of such inventions, just clarifying..And what are these "death juices", could you clarify what we're talking about?

 

[Maviarab]

Yeah gonna have to agree with Miles there...a spray/potion to increase pain receptors...it's like...

Let's be brutally honest here folks...for the vast majority of V fans....if she wasn't a redhead with freckles....she would not even be close to being one of the most popular girls. She is evil...quite sadictic...when she chooses to be...her experiments and inventions are proof of that alone. The story is not set in the 1920's when 'scientists' and 'doctors' and 'therepists' thought they knew what they were doing..but even then, that is debated hotly throughout history in terms of just exactly how much was pure evil and not what science thought.

She just hides it very well...and she is a feckled redhead. If Veronica was Yvette's model for exmaple instead...I can guarantee (in fact I'd bet my house on it) far less people would like her. Unlike her sisters (from the outside),...she is single handedly the coldest and most calculated.

 

[Bulletproof 2301]

Yeah gonna have to agree with Miles there...a spray/potion to increase pain receptors...it's like...

Let's be brutally honest here folks...for the vast majority of V fans....if she wasn't a redhead with freckles....she would not even be close to being one of the most popular girls. She is evil...quite sadictic...when she chooses to be...her experiments and inventions are proof of that alone. The story is not set in the 1920's when 'scientists' and 'doctors' and 'therepists' thought they knew what they were doing..but even then, that is debated hotly throughout history in terms of just exactly how much was pure evil and not what science thought.

She just hides it very well...and she is a feckled redhead. If Veronica was Yvette's model for exmaple instead...I can guarantee (in fact I'd bet my house on it) far less people would like her. Unlike her sisters (from the outside),...she is single handedly the coldest and most calculated.

Yeah,veronica is the baddest bitch of all, even she made a slave dumb so that he can't hear anything, she is soo soo evil, if not for looks, she would not become this popular

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

If you're talking about the spray that was used on Zach at the beginning of the game, it has a different effect, increasing the pain sensation on the area of the body where the spray was rubbed in.

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I think if there was a spray/drug that made people "on fire" they would just die of pain shock, but I don't recall such a drug in the game. I'm not defending the immorality of such inventions, just clarifying..And what are these "death juices", could you clarify what we're talking about?

Apologies wasn't exactly articulate last night. You were right on the first one and the second thing I was referring to was whatever that serum was that Juliette used on Dumbo to kill him. Fairly certain that was a veronica invention.

 

[Spacy7]

can someone post the torrent link here please

 

[Stan5851]

Yeah gonna have to agree with Miles there...a spray/potion to increase pain receptors...it's like...

Let's be brutally honest here folks...for the vast majority of V fans....if she wasn't a redhead with freckles....she would not even be close to being one of the most popular girls. She is evil...quite sadictic...when she chooses to be...her experiments and inventions are proof of that alone. The story is not set in the 1920's when 'scientists' and 'doctors' and 'therepists' thought they knew what they were doing..but even then, that is debated hotly throughout history in terms of just exactly how much was pure evil and not what science thought.

She just hides it very well...and she is a feckled redhead. If Veronica was Yvette's model for exmaple instead...I can guarantee (in fact I'd bet my house on it) far less people would like her. Unlike her sisters (from the outside),...she is single handedly the coldest and most calculated.

Some players like to demonise Veronica, but unlike the most evil of the sisters, Juliette, Veronica has some good qualities. We all know that one of her main research projects is to restore animal and plant life to the post-nuclear continent and she is the only hope for this doomed world. Besides, V doesn't like sadism in its purest form like the other sisters and prefers to get sexual pleasure in a more sensible way, not so caveman and savage. So it's not just her beauty, freckles and red hair, although of course, it's also one of the sources of her popularity. There's a lot more to her.

Personally, I love her romance with my KaneDom, including their deep connection going back to their early childhood, and I see her as more than just a character for sex. Yeah, her inventions don't do her any honour, but her dark side is at least largely balanced by her light deeds, the importance of which cannot be overstated. So she's far from the worst (imo), and if anyone is destined to regain their lost humanity, it will be her.

 

[Maviarab]

Some players like to demonise Veronica, but unlike the most evil of the sisters, Juliette, Veronica has some good qualities. We all know that one of her main research projects is to restore animal and plant life to the post-nuclear continent and she is the only hope for this doomed world. Besides, V doesn't like sadism in its purest form like the other sisters and prefers to get sexual pleasure in a more sensible way, not so caveman and savage. So it's not just her beauty, freckles and red hair, although of course, it's also one of the sources of her popularity. There's a lot more to her.

Personally, I love her romance with my KaneDom, including their deep connection going back to their early childhood, and I see her as more than just a character for sex. Yeah, her inventions don't do her any honour, but her dark side is at least largely balanced by her light deeds, the importance of which cannot be overstated. So she's far from the worst (imo), and if anyone is destined to regain their lost humanity, it will be her.

While I won't (and couldn't) discount anything you say....the good deeds balance out the bad is not really a good defence heh. One could argue that about a lot of real historical characters where being honest, no, the good deeds do not balance out the heinous ones.

However, this is just a story so sure, you know I'll give V a break as I do like her character, regardless of her hair colour (even if she is only my third favourite sister currently...once we know Astrid better, she could drop to fourth lol)

 

[motseer]

She just hides it very well...and she is a feckled redhead.

Yep, and I've feckled her once before and Imma do it again, too! Jus' Sayin'

 

[Maviarab]

Yep, and I've feckled her once before and Imma do it again, too! Jus' Sayin'

Just be sure the other sisters aren't around at the time

 

[motseer]

Just be sure the other sisters aren't around at the time

Maybe Dominique will join in. I hear she likes feckles...

 

[Maviarab]

Maybe Dominique will join in. I hear she likes feckles...

Bwahahaha...given their interactions between each other...that is definitely something I'd like to see lol. Might get bloody...but it would be fun to see


Aside: Which I currently have always viewed as odd....given their goals...common interests (better future)...surprises me that they really don't get along with each other.

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Speaking of sisters getting along.. So in the threesome scene with Alessandra and Celeste, Alessa hints that she wouldn't mind you joining their little harem, if some other party is open to it. I'm curious, who could it be?
My gut feeling is that it's Juliette, and here's why:
1. It must be someone on the level of Alessa herself, someone very important.
2. Samantha shows up in the pool scene with Alessa, and we know she's part of Juliette's "fun parties".
3. Jules is quite fond of harems herself.
4. I just really want it to be true.

If sharing Jules and Alessa is an option, then I'll be convinced to let the world burn. Totally worth it.

 

[Maviarab]

Speaking of sisters getting along.. So in the threesome scene with Alessandra and Celeste, Alessa hints that she wouldn't mind you joining their little harem, if some other party is open to it. I'm curious, who could it be?
My gut feeling is that it's Juliette, and here's why:
1. It must be someone on the level of Alessa herself, someone very important.
2. Samantha shows up in the pool scene with Alessa, and we know she's part of Juliette's "fun parties".
3. Jules is quite fond of harems herself.
4. I just really want it to be true.

If sharing Jules and Alessa is an option, then I'll be convinced to let the world burn. Totally worth it.

Yeah I think Jules would be the obvious one (if that's even an actual possibility). They are the only 2 sisters who do seem to actually get along (aside from Aless and Olivia...but I have my doubts as to how much of Aless' friendship there is actually honest and genuine).

All the others in any combination do (appear) to be rather prickly and tolerable at best...if only because they are sisters....I think if they were not related they would barely even bother to say hello in passing.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Yeah gonna have to agree with Miles there...a spray/potion to increase pain receptors...it's like...

Let's be brutally honest here folks...for the vast majority of V fans....if she wasn't a redhead with freckles....she would not even be close to being one of the most popular girls. She is evil...quite sadictic...when she chooses to be...her experiments and inventions are proof of that alone. The story is not set in the 1920's when 'scientists' and 'doctors' and 'therepists' thought they knew what they were doing..but even then, that is debated hotly throughout history in terms of just exactly how much was pure evil and not what science thought.

She just hides it very well...and she is a feckled redhead. If Veronica was Yvette's model for exmaple instead...I can guarantee (in fact I'd bet my house on it) far less people would like her. Unlike her sisters (from the outside),...she is single handedly the coldest and most calculated.

as a Sub player she’s my favorite character (for the sub path) personally besides Delilah… Yes some of it’s because of her looks..(which was voted by the Patreons btw Lol) but also because of her interactions with Sub Kane… especially if your kane shows somewhat intelligence and kindness, that actually gains points with her… there’s a scene after the dreaded K1 area where after V heals you she lets Kanes head rest on her lap… Yes she does evil… some may say more evil than other characters, but everyone agrees that in the world of GG, evil is a term of perspective… at least Veronica is trying to be good in certain aspects… unlike some characters…. But I mostly like her because of her pre-existing relationship with Kane, even if Sub Kane doesn’t even Remeber Veronica yet, she does… just need more of Veronica’s relationship with Sub Kane to continue in this update… which it looks like it is…

 

[Silver_Crow117]

I really do Like that Tess did put Claudia in as a Sub romance for Kane!! She really is different that from what other characters we have seen!… and Tess also said this about it,

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[Maviarab]

I really do Like that Tess did put Claudia in as a Sub romance for Kane!! She really is different that from what other characters we have seen!… and Tess also said this about it,

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YEah I think both twins are quite fun in their own way.

Hope you get your V dreams next update btw

 

[Stan5851]

as a Sub player she’s my favorite character (for the sub path) personally besides Delilah… Yes some of it’s because of her looks..(which was voted by the Patreons btw Lol) but also because of her interactions with Sub Kane… especially if your kane shows somewhat intelligence and kindness, that actually gains points with her… there’s a scene after the dreaded K1 area where after V heals you she lets Kanes head rest on her lap… Yes she does evil… some may say more evil than other characters, but everyone agrees that in the world of GG, evil is a term of perspective… at least Veronica is trying to be good in certain aspects… unlike some characters…. But I mostly like her because of her pre-existing relationship with Kane, even if Sub Kane doesn’t even Remeber Veronica yet, she does… just need more of Veronica’s relationship with Sub Kane to continue in this update… which it looks like it is…

Well, I'm happy for you. Yes, the world in which such a corporation exists dictates its own rules. A weak and "correct" Veronica would not survive here, Alexander didn't need such daughters. But I'm sure that both Dom players and Sub players with the right approach can achieve a good result, melt Veronica's heart and etch all the poison of their twisted father out of her. Just rewatched this beautiful scene, and..

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.. no, I don't regret at all that I chose Veronica, who is my second favourite character after Olivia.

Revolution? No, it will not make this world a better place and will only lead to destruction without creation. There will be no "happiness for everyone" because there will be no resources, no flora, no fauna, no people capable of anything more than sticking a miner's pickaxe into the malleable bodies of their abusers. Yes, maybe there will be an ending with the classic "sailing off into the sunset"(let's say with Junko) where we can leave JoyFacility behind, but it seems to me that this is an escape from reality and responsibility. So in the main walkthrough I want to do something good and kind, and if KaneDom, Olivia, Veronica, Dominique (and Astrid?) together manage to save this post-nuclear world, giving a new start to a new life, for me it will be the most worthy ending of the story...And yes, there's no judgement on the winners. Especially ones like these.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

YEah I think both twins are quite fun in their own way.

Hope you get your V dreams next update btw

We’ll get some build up to it… but nothing that substantial… Miss Tess said this,