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She is honorable because she is true to herself and true to her word. She never says anything about not being a sadist. You might disagree that is enough to call her honorable, but in KG they seemingly don't.
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The scene of Kiyomi's psychological torture in the K3 dungeon is at the beginning of the game, with time she begins to see the possibility of change, and to this we must add Seth's charms (without him realising it), so by the end we have a Kiyomi who is a little more "human" than the one we see at the beginning.
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Yes, he is very important!
1. He enchants the Karlson sisters' best assassin like a flute player enchants a cobra.
2. He will indirectly give Astrid the cure for her illness and thus gain her protection in her laboratory.
3. Astrid's domain is outside the whole mad complex the sisters have for her enjoyment (joy facility), so Seth may already be off the chessboard and safe without even knowing it.
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Maybe you're on to something. At any rate, Kiyomi is the most confusing character.
Kiyomi also gets off on killing that guy in front of Seth when they first meet. And says "You know what? I'll make it extremely quick since you are awake, but it's never good to see someone die if it can be avoided."
She seems to be genuinely against Katsumi and Olivia abusing Seth. And genuinely wanting to help Seth. "Seth... everything in here is observed and recorded. Everything. I also gave my word to remain silent on some things. And I never break my word, even if... even if I want to sometimes." Later, during that scene she also says:
Tess obviously intentionally worded it this way to be open-ended, she does this a lot. I always assumed it meant that Kiyomi thinks she's a better person than Katsumi, but maybe it could also mean that she's just better at what Katsumi does, which, as we know, Katsumi's biggest kink is befriending the weak and powerless, giving them hope and then squashing it.
The real confusing thing to me though, is the stat system with Kiyomi. She seems aligned with Veronica, but their points contradict each other to some degree. For example, if you become a ViperPet, Kiyomi obviously likes this, but Veronica does not. It's very unlikely that the point system is a lie, and the point system indicates that Kiyomi hates when people don't pick honorable decisions. For example, Olivia asking Kiyomi to be nicer or meaner to Kane will lose points with her.
So the idea that she is a more extreme version of Katsumi seems unlikely. She also refuses to help Katsumi in the game show. But then, as you pointed out, there's that scene when Kane turns down being a Viper Pet... It feels so contradictory.
I'm reading some of the dialogue around Kiyomi more carefully now, and it seems like some people around her aren't sure what to make of Kiyomi either. Juliette says to Kiyomi, "Fine, what an exciting word! I always hoped you secretly got off assassinating people, but maybe you don't? I'll never know I guess."
Kiyomi also claims that due to some enhancements in her body, she has a few side effects that she has to deal with. One of those side effects is a very active libido. She's been using meditation to calm herself down, but after having been ordered by Juliette to use Seth, she realizes she should use more sexual solutions.
So, just speculation but perhaps at the start of the VN she is genuinely an honorable person and will be corrupted more over time?
Another interesting thing she says that could explain her intro scene with Seth where she kills someone is this: "I've actually had some men licking me like this, but they were usually begging for their lives. But it's not because I want to do it so badly. I've had to record these... situations through my own eyes for another..."
I wonder if Kiyomi gave her word to someone (A Karlsson sister I would assume?) and refuses to break it, but regrets giving her word. And eventually as the story plays out will, she will eventually betray whoever she gave her word to?
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Mistress Tess — Today at 6:09 PM
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I will try and make this better for Patreon and elsewhere, but at the end of 7, this is kind of what you should see. If you did not, you can use at any time 0.7FinalB version and it will still load your saves and you just need to go to the end and then save with these screens.
last shot for my save on dom path end of 7, then the following after that
(Here, if it's your FIRST slot will say first, second, etc. After you hit 8, it will ask on the 9th time if you want to overwrite any of the 8 slots and you will see them)
cuts to outro to end 7
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I will try and make this better for Patreon and elsewhere, but at the end of 7, this is kind of what you should see. If you did not, you can use at any time 0.7FinalB version and it will still load your saves and you just need to go to the end and then save with these screens.
last shot for my save on dom path end of 7, then the following after that
(Here, if it's your FIRST slot will say first, second, etc. After you hit 8, it will ask on the 9th time if you want to overwrite any of the 8 slots and you will see them)
cuts to outro to end 7
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His importance to Kane is that Kane is probs only in the Gambit cuz Callista has no other way of getting a cure for seth's sick assI meant to us...as the MC
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It’s cuz Kiyomi is secretly siding with Cole and is leaving it open ended for the MC on His submissive or Dom Choices… remeber… for both playstyles, there’s good and evil options…
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Seth didn't even have the decency to die in the beginning. Imagine this - no bar fight for Kane, no prison, no 'booty duty' for K3 Kane. And even if Kane still ends up in prison, at least he doesn't have to worry about his mostly dead useless brother anymore and can focus on knocking Olivia up, as he should.
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With the recent allegations I can't help but compare Alexander Karlsson to Vince McMahon. I wonder who's more evil out of the two? I mean, at least (I hope) Alexander didn't take a dump on Callista's head and that is the true reason she left. And just like Vince, he will return from cryosleep to take over the company and the world!
And just like Vince, he will return from cryosleep to take over the company and the world!
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Ohhh ohhhh man hahahaha....completely agree on the last part though
Ummm....With the recent allegations I can't help but compare Alexander Karlsson to Vince McMahon. I wonder who's more evil out of the two? I mean, at least (I hope) Alexander didn't take a dump on Callista's head and that is the true reason she left.
Yeah...well with that said...moving on
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Not touching that with a ten foot pole but technically everybody in the Karlsson organization would be me tooed.
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She's just a fan of Rings of Power, and that alone makes her the most despicable person in the game by a large margin.
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I suppose we'll have plenty of opportunities in the game show to realize how many people here are like Cynthia.
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Imagine if Alessandra's whole thing was, "I was going to sponsor you; you gave me the correct number of orgasms, but you didn't even serve me a raw steak. Not only am I not sponsoring you, but you're demoted for the disrespect."