VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2 Test] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Don Sucio]

Yeah what I'm saying is, let's take K4 actions as an example (so nothing crazily extreme)...and let's say Good/Dom Olivia. When she is doing her usual daily 'facility stuff'...that as Kane we don't see because we're doing whatever...is she still like she is on the SubKane K4 path with other prisoners? I mean, obviously, she not just sat on her ass in her office having Cassandra lick her toes is she? Because we're K5+Whatever, we are very rarely interacting with the K4 and below prisoners. There are times though (notably the Pod W2 meet with Taylor) when she leaves saying 'I have some K whatever 'training' to attend to'...(where if on the sub path...you do see that training).

Interesting indeed... I have always assumed Olivia will act more or less with the same attitude like when we manage her, I don´t think Olivia has an independent personality behind the personality we want to give her right? This would be something new for me in this type of games.

 

[Maviarab]

Interesting indeed... I have always assumed Olivia will act more or less with the same attitude like when we manage her, I don´t think Olivia has an independent personality behind the personality we want to give her right? This would be something new for me in this type of games.

Well yeah I would agree...but when we are not controlling her, making decisions for her...she still does have a job to do as Warden of the Joy Facility...right? She still does take training sessions with lower ranked K's.

 

[AlphaBit]

Ironic seeing as I've seen quite a few of the sub fans complain that the dom path is seemingly Tess' favorite and gets preferential treatment.

Apparently the final version adds a grand total of one sub scene

This. the dom path may well be, but consistently gets less renders and scenes (this update being no exception) and yes you are also correct there is far more KaneVia content on the sub path than the Dom path. It is the way it is but still irks me nonetheless at how little Domkane content/action gets with our sweet Goddess in comparison. Fuck, the pathetic Zach, idiot scum Daniel and even fuckboi Jake have even tasted our sweet princess before DomKane...like..seriously...wtf? I think this alone shows which is her favourite path.

(Disclaimer, ok..I get they are two completely unrelated and distinct paths that exist outside of each other but still lol...c'mon...time for DomKane to get that nectar!)

Yup...I agree, and I'm sure there are story reasons for it, as you say, SubKane, Olivia acts like she is supposed to a lot more. I suppose one has to think, on the dom path, when you don't see Olivia, is she still very similar with other prisoners? Interesting to think.

There is a huge imbalance though, like the end of 7, SubKane gets a taster of what life at K5 may be like by having a foursome (even typing that bothers me lol) with Mia, Delilah and Raven! Like...woah woah woah...hold the damn train folks lmao. All I can say is, when DomKane finally gets Olivia, it had better be one hell of a damn scene to compensate lol

Not to mention no matter how many sub points you give to Olivia in the sub path, it makes no difference. She gives dom players a lot of stuff, but we all know where her loyalties lie

tuskedkibbles TessSadist I didn't even have to say anything. Honestly these game devs that claim to balance between opposite genres like ntr/non ntr, femdom/maledom never show anything for their claims, its clear that this is a femdom game with no actual maledom (the little bits are there as a hook, that are delivered too late to the point there existence doesn't even matter), any maledom fans are only hooked because they thought that the dev will deliver on her claims of balancing between both genres But clearly she failed in doing so as the game is 65% complete and people are still complaining about the dom path.

theres another false promise she made at the start that there will be a possibility of a harem, and now when the game is 2/3, she is saying that you could only be able to end with 2 main LI with the possiblity of 1 or 2 not so desired side characters. definately not a harem but atmost a triangle.

this game would have been one of my best if the dev delivered on her promisses but thats not the case.

these failed balancing act games are the reason why me and many others have dropped even giving a play to any new such games, to hell with them

 

[Bombmaster]

tuskedkibbles TessSadist I didn't even have to say anything. Honestly these game devs that claim to balance between opposite genres like ntr/non ntr, femdom/maledom never show anything for their claims, its clear that this is a femdom game with no actual maledom (the little bits are there as a hook, that are delivered too late to the point there existence doesn't even matter), any maledom fans are only hooked because they thought that the dev will deliver on her claims of balancing between both genres. But clearly she failed in doing so.

theres another false promise she made at the start that there will be a possibility of a harem, and now when the game is 2/3, she is saying that you could only be able to end with 2 main LI with the possiblity of 1 or 2 not so desired side characters. definately not a harem but atmost a triangle.

this game would have been one of my best if the dev delivered on her promisses but thats not the case.

these failed balancing act games are the reason why me and many others have dropped even giving a play to any new such games, to hell with them

Couldn't explained better, the last hook keeping me engaged is role-playing a total raptus psycho with Kane /Olivia.

 

[depeche mode]

Couldn't explained better, the last hook keeping me engaged is role-playing a total raptus psycho with Kane /Olivia.

even that shit doesnt happen. mc still is a wimpy retard who question every shit instead of going full power hungry
this game blows, man

 

[depeche mode]

nobody cares that you add people to the ignore list
talk about how the mc dom route fucking sucks
10000 updates in mc: mmm i wonder if i should kill this guy or not...the dudes in the game show will sure suffer huh?....im still getting kojima level of exposition from these bitches, what should i do....

 

[Sancho1969]

Just .... wow. I find myself speechless at the common sense (or lack thereof) of some folks:

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[Stan5851]

Nobody cares about the whiners complaining that they didn't get another "Desert Stalker" and why their poor ragamuffin Kane, who was picked up on the street (okay, taken from prison) on the 8th day of his re-education programme, still isn't walking the naked Karlsson sisters on a leash or whipping the arse of a sobbing Juliette, who gratefully kisses his Gigachad boots.

I've answered such questions many times before.Also very detailed posts (perhaps in a less humorous tone, but also reasoned) regarding the essence of the Dom route(s) have been written many times by Maviarab. Who can read, will read. Those who can think, analyse and objectively assess the logic of current events will understand. Those who can do neither (or won't) of these, nor the third...Well, that's their own problems.

A few thoughts on the thesis of the "falsity" of the Dom...path. Yeah, that post has already been deleted, but I'll just leave my 2 cents.

To me, KG is kind of like Game of Thrones in a dystopian post-apocalyptic world. But if you try to draw parallels between KG and GoT, I would compare Kane's (Dom) path to power to that of Daenerys Targaryen. Remember where she started and how long it took her to get to her goal, going from almost a slave to a very powerful person. Both Kane and Daenerys have things in common - both belong to the royal family, both are very important. Of course, Kane's path to power is different, but there are commonalities that can't be overlooked - trials/challenges, setbacks, gaining new allies, weaving palace intrigue - all in order to gain power and still stay alive (sorry, Daenerys, its not for you). (Yes, no one has fucked KaneDom from behind like Daenerys, and that's a plus too, haha ) and in general, KaneDom routes is quite comfortable and enjoyable.

So, in my opinion, it's silly to expect that within the scope of this massive epic story, Kane would immediately find himself on the KG Board with a personal harem of all the sisters. Gaining power for a man at the bottom of the food chain is not a quick process, but if someone likes AVN, where "mommy's boy Giga Chad" fucks the entire female population within a mile radius from the first minutes of the game and "dominates" without understanding what it is, KG is definitely not such a game, and those who expect such things from it should pass by.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Me over here as a sub player enjoying it… primarily Veronica’s and Delilah’s routes… Specifically..

 

[Maviarab]

Nobody cares about the whiners complaining that they didn't get another "Desert Stalker" and why their poor ragamuffin Kane, who was picked up on the street (okay, taken from prison) on the 8th day of his re-education programme, still isn't walking the naked Karlsson sisters on a leash or whipping the arse of a sobbing Juliette, who gratefully kisses his Gigachad boots.

I've answered such questions many times before.Also very detailed posts (perhaps in a less humorous tone, but also reasoned) regarding the essence of the Dom route(s) have been written many times by Maviarab. Who can read, will read. Those who can think, analyse and objectively assess the logic of current events will understand. Those who can do neither (or won't) of these, nor the third...Well, that's their own problems.

Nicely said.

Me over here as a sub player enjoying it… primarily Veronica’s and Delilah’s routes… Specifically..
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Rofl...looks about right

 

[PickerLewd]

What happened in the end? Was Mrs. Tess able to solve her crash problems before the trip? .

 

[Don Sucio]

What happened in the end? Was Mrs. Tess able to solve her crash problems before the trip? .

If you are talking about the masks crashes then i suppose yes , the final version is out.

 

[Cirelc]

tuskedkibbles TessSadist I didn't even have to say anything. Honestly these game devs that claim to balance between opposite genres like ntr/non ntr, femdom/maledom never show anything for their claims, its clear that this is a femdom game with no actual maledom (the little bits are there as a hook, that are delivered too late to the point there existence doesn't even matter), any maledom fans are only hooked because they thought that the dev will deliver on her claims of balancing between both genres But clearly she failed in doing so as the game is 65% complete and people are still complaining about the dom path.

theres another false promise she made at the start that there will be a possibility of a harem, and now when the game is 2/3, she is saying that you could only be able to end with 2 main LI with the possiblity of 1 or 2 not so desired side characters. definately not a harem but atmost a triangle.

this game would have been one of my best if the dev delivered on her promisses but thats not the case.

these failed balancing act games are the reason why me and many others have dropped even giving a play to any new such games, to hell with them

I'm confused...

Episode 7 was 2 parts, Episode 8 will be 3 parts, but the game is finished to 65%??? Are you sure about that?

About "false promises" she made:

She wanted to imply a better UI and a Character overview / Relations tab and maybe a smartphone.
Never mentioned again. So what, we know her coding isnt the best. And maybe it will come later.... (Source)

The Harem promise:

As evil dom player you see multiple options, Katsumi and co, Juliette and her complete staff, Alessandra and both Twins, the K2 wing with the Doc and Erica, your Wpod. And for the good dom players she said it will come later.

About the balance Dom and Sub:

Its a femdom game with a Dom option:

Quote from her Patreon:
This is a game that will have many femdom themed kinks and scenes given the overall world, but it is not a 100% femdom game if a player does not want to only explore the submissive femdom routes. Alternative paths will allow a player to become more dominant with one or more girls, or even the entire situation if everything is played a certain way with choices. Above all, I want a player to be able to have real narrative choices that create a different story experience.

So the dom paths are an alternative and no Main paths. Please show me the claim from Tess that she' ll be balance the Sub and Dom by 50/50.

To be fair yes the dom paths have a major and a minor fuck up:

The Minor:

Pamela should be your assistant and you should explore the mines togheter.

Never happened, opps.

The Major:

If you don't have Dominique as sponsor you get forced into a Junko Relationship, if you play as good as possible.
Only when you have the D Sponosr you get asked about Junko, if you want a relationship.

Conclussion:

Overall she delivered on her promises. We got a game with a lot of meaningfull choices and a great story experience. Did you count the different Paths in the game?

 

[Don Sucio]

About "false promises" she made:

She wanted to imply a better UI and a Character overview / Relations tab and maybe a smartphone.
Never mentioned again. So what, we know her coding isnt the best. And maybe it will come later....

I didn´t know about the smartphone, it would be interesting, but i don´t care too much if is not added, i don´t think we need it . (i usually am a fan of smartphones in games)

 

[Cirelc]

I didn´t know about the smartphone, it would be interesting, but i don´t care too much if is not added, i don´t think we need it . (i usually am a fan of smartphones in games)

Source

Forgot to the add it to my previous post, ty for the reminder.

Btw did any sub player play the final version and confirmed there is only one more scene in it? Because there could be more...

 

[Maviarab]

Yeah phones and other such bullshit are definitely not needed in KG. A character (stat/bio) screen I think could be a nice addition...but it's all just fluff at the end of the day.

 

[tuskedkibbles]

Everyone should just ignore the alphabit dude at this point. Going round and round like this in the thread is going to eventually draw mod attention, and if Mavi gets even a one day silence, I'm pretty sure the rest of the fanbase is contractually obligated to commit sepuku.

 

[Maviarab]

I'm pretty sure the rest of the fanbase is contractually obligated to commit sepuku.

 

[Sancho1969]

Yeah phones and other such bullshit are definitely not needed in KG.

Something that stupid might make me consider walking away from the project.

Nah, not really, but I'm sick and tired of coding mods into shitty half-functional logic and unoptimized "phone" code tbh.

 

[camube]

what does test means and should i wait for the full version instead?