VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2 Test] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

3. I'm putting this in logical order. New character? I don't recognize the woman on screen. Since we haven't seen Amara on Good Dominique path, is this exclusive to Evil Dominique's path? I mean I doubt Amara's just hanging out (no pun intended) somewhere with her kids while they await Kwame's fate in the program, it's supposed to be a long process.

2. This looks to be where the "new girl" is calling from.

Definitely Amara...definitely Evil Dominique path...

and yes that new girl is Charlotte Marbot, head of the largest New Paris family, part of the Big Seven (Families) in New Paris which also comprise the von Reinach's and Richelieu's and not a terribly pleasent person. Friends with Phoebe, Alyssa and 'Tess'.

Tess'll be using 'em before long bud. Look at you go. I'd take a look at the sheets but deathly afraid it'll change the bias on how I write the mod's ChoiceGuide, but can see from the screenshots you put a lot of work into it. Guess this is a bad time to say I'm a monster PowerQuery and PivotTable dude, so not DL & opening the actual spreadsheets leaves me bummed. I'll grab another drink and wash that bummer away.

May not be ideal (for you), but should open fine in Google Docs. Was actually thinking about putting them there so they permanently online and can just update that way. Just a shame there is too much info (and the way structured) to do them in pdf format....

 

[Jacowboy]

The sponsorship hasn't really been utilized outside of a sex scene in Ep. 7 with your first sponsor. Getting Dominique's sponsorship first will get you K7 by End of Day 4/Ep. 4, and that will give you a lead with each promotion point, but I believe you might be able to promote 2 ranks on Day 5 if you work it right. There is a story path that seems locked to [Good] Dominique's sponsorship, but I'm not aware of any such threads for other sponsors. Yes you can gain Veronica after Dominique, in fact she tells you to do so, else you will make her angry. It also looks like you can gain Alessandra's sponsorship, but for everyone that is only after the Gameshow (if you do what she likes in said show).

Well yeah I got to K9 with just Veronica's sponsorship, so levels are not an issue it seems. I was just wondering if it was any real use yet.

I've literally (an hour ago) given Tess all her mask images, cut out and cleaned up (she lost a lot in a SSD crash), especially so she can clean up the Chapter 8 title card. I've offered to redo/do all her chapter cards going forward which was met with enthusiasm.

Well that's something I guess (still needs a proper logo)... now let's hope you do a good job =P

 

[Sancho1969]

May not be ideal (for you), but should open fine in Google Docs. Was actually thinking about putting them there so they permanently online and can just update that way.

I'm totally cool with Excel bud, that's my point... I'm curious since I was MS certified back in the day (I got certs in excel, word, and access). I just don't want to DL and peruse so my bias stays where I'm at for the mod. Again, I can tell how much hard work you put in it from the screenshots and anyone else should definitely take a look at your share of that hard work. Kudos to you bud, I mean that. The community should thank you for putting in the work unmonetized.

 

[Maviarab]

Well yeah I got to K9 with just Veronica's sponsorship, so levels are not an issue it seems. I was just wondering if it was any real use yet.

Impossible (without cheating) to hit K9 without getting Dominique's sponsorship (and JunkoRomanceOpen) first as you lose Dominique fast-tracking you to K7 on GD04. Without hitting K7 from Dominique on the first Program Day (PD01)/Joy Facility Day 2)..... you ain't getting to K9 by Ep.7

now let's hope you do a good job =P

If she asks me, but 20 years Photoshop use...I don't think I'll have any problems

I'm totally cool with Excel bud, that's my point... I'm curious since I was MS certified back in the day (I got certs in excel, word, and access). I just don't want to DL and peruse so my bias stays where I'm at for the mod. Again, I can tell how much hard work you put in it from the screenshots and anyone else should definitely take a look at your share of that hard work. Kudos to you bud, I mean that. The community should thank you for putting in the work.

Heh I hear you...understand, probably for the best, and thanks

 

[YuNobi1]

Definitely Amara...definitely Evil Dominique path...

and yes that new girl is Charlotte Marbot, head of the largest New Paris family, part of the Big Seven (Families) in New Paris which also comprise the von Reinach's and Richelieu's and not a terribly pleasent person. Friends with Phoebe, Alyssa and 'Tess'.


May not be ideal (for you), but should open fine in Google Docs. Was actually thinking about putting them there so they permanently online and can just update that way. Just a shame there is too much info (and the way structured) to do them in pdf format....

Slightly edited my post to make it clearer. I wasn't asking if it was Amara, but if we will ever see Amara on Good Dominique.

 

[Sancho1969]

Well yeah I got to K9 with just Veronica's sponsorship

I'd have to speedrun it to confirm... but I don't think that's possible bud. Are you sure? If memory serves there's one way to get K9 right now... I'd have to confirm though, it's been a minute.

 

[Maviarab]

Slightly edited my post to make it clearer. I wasn't asking if it was Amara, but if we will ever see Amara on Good Dominique.

Ahhhh gotya.

I would say no, never...unless she has a serious change of heart. This is the beauty of playing all the paths I feel. I've always maintained, if you take kane out of the sub path...everything that happens in that path, still happens. We just don't see it. Likewise, if you turn Dominique evil...even if you don't pursue her...she still does what she does.

But even on her good path, Kwame is never getting out of the program....ever....being allowed to live with the promise of saving his family is actually worse than having them all killed. Amara is never getting free, Kwame is never getting an exec position...personal servant at best.

I think seeing Amara on the good Dominique path would be....surprising. Not to say it won't happen...if we can convince her in the future perhaps to be lenient (especially if we rid ourselves of a few board members)...but honestly IMO...that family is fucked unless we can intervene ourselves.

 

[Maviarab]

I'd have to speedrun it to confirm... but I don't think that's possible bud. Are you sure? If memory serves there's one way to get K9 right now... I'd have to confirm though, it's been a minute.

Impossible (without cheating) to hit K9 without getting Dominique's sponsorship (and JunkoRomanceOpen) first as you lose Dominique fast-tracking you to K7 on GD04. Without hitting K7 from Dominique on the first Program Day (PD01)/Joy Facility Day 2..... you ain't getting to K9 by Ep.7

 

[Jacowboy]

Impossible (without cheating) to hit K9 without getting Dominique's sponsorship (and JunkoRomanceOpen) first as you lose Dominique fast-tracking you to K7 on GD04. Without hitting K7 from Dominique on the first Program Day (PD01)/Joy Facility Day 2)..... you ain't getting to K9 by Ep.7

No, I did... no cheats... I did follow a WT, tho... I started at K6, then got K7 after 1st eval, then got bumped 2 tiers at the 2nd eval to K9... I'm pretty sure you don't even need a sponsor to reach K9, actually... you just need perfect scores at the evals.

 

[YuNobi1]

Well yeah I got to K9 with just Veronica's sponsorship, so levels are not an issue it seems. I was just wondering if it was any real use yet.



Well that's something I guess (still needs a proper logo)... now let's hope you do a good job =P

Impossible (without cheating) to hit K9 without getting Dominique's sponsorship (and JunkpoRomanceOpen) first as you lose Dominique fast-tracking you to K7 on GD04.

If she asks me, but 20 years Photoshop use...I don't think I'll have any problems


Heh I hear you...understand, probably for the best, and thanks

I'd have to speedrun it to confirm... but I don't think that's possible bud. Are you sure? If memory serves there's one way to get K9 right now... I'd have to confirm though, it's been a minute.

According to the walkthrough:
Day 5 Evaluation

Step 1
IF Zpoints < 4 OR Chanel > 2
THEN Chanel recommends K7 (regardless of current rank).

Step 2
IF Chanel recommends K7
AND SisTeam > 2
AND SisBro > 0
THEN Kane = K8

So as long as you start Ep. 6 with K8, and you do the manager training correctly, you should get K9 by Ep. 7 start regardless of your sponsor.

 

[Sancho1969]

Quickly eyeballed my notes (they're old, with many revisions as I worked but basically):

Ep6 is where K9 is set.
Sponsor doesn't matter.
Julliette/Domonique/Veronica Grade Points are tallied to be awarded DomThronePoints.
It takes 8 DomThronePoints to get K9 ("Dom" meaning dominate in this variable).

The only way DomThronePoints are awarded:

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DomThronePoints(8) to KLevel. This is the only way to make k9 True:

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DomThronePoints are the absolute key here, you must have 8 (or more technically which isn't possible) to get to K9.. it's the only way the variable is ever set to True in the entire VN to date.

Edited for more description and clarity, and corrections.

 

[Jacowboy]

bruh...

(again, no Dominique sponosrship, no Junko romance, just Veronica sponsorship... oh and no cheats obviously).

 

[Jacowboy]

Quickly eyeballed my notes (they're old, with many revisions as I worked but basically):

Ep6 is where K9 is set and you need max Domonique for the K9, otherwise you're K8 or less.
Player can only receive max Jul or max Ver pnts (between the two) and needs max Dom's pnts too.
It takes 8 DomThronePoints to get K9 ("Dom" meaning dominate in this variable).
The only way DomThronePoints are awarded:

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DomThronePoints (8) to KLevel. This is the only way to make k9 True:

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DomThronePoints are the absolute key here, you must have 8 (or more technically which isn't possible) to get to K9.. it's the only way the variable is ever set to True in the entire VN to date.

Don't know what to tell you, but I installed your mod on Ep8 and took a screenshot so you can see the variables I get when I import my savefile:



Not sure what those "domtrhone" points are, but as you can see, I didn't get Dominique's sponsorship and I have negative Junko points (since I banged Channel in the jacuzzi scene)...

 

[Maviarab]

No, I did... no cheats... I did follow a WT, tho... I started at K6, then got K7 after 1st eval, then got bumped 2 tiers at the 2nd eval to K9... I'm pretty sure you don't even need a sponsor to reach K9, actually... you just need perfect scores at the evals.

According to the walkthrough:
Day 5 Evaluation

Step 1
IF Zpoints < 4 OR Chanel > 2
THEN Chanel recommends K7 (regardless of current rank).

Step 2
IF Chanel recommends K7
AND SisTeam > 2
AND SisBro > 0
THEN Kane = K8

So as long as you start Ep. 6 with K8, and you do the manager training correctly, you should get K9 by Ep. 7 start regardless of your sponsor.

Not sure how I've missed/forgot that to be honest...(I've even done no meet Dominique runs too lol) *shakes head*

I concede you are correct though

Apologies all round *holds hands up*

 

[Sancho1969]

Here, I just


Don't know what to tell you, but I installed your mod on Ep8 and took a screenshot so you can see the variables I get when I import my savefile:

View attachment 3411290

The problem here being that the stat screen does not display each sponsor's grades. That is only shown in the MiniStat screen before the KLevels are awarded... that's likely the most important data. I'll check on my end real quick... the VN's code is what it is though, so I might be mistaken regarding Jul/Ver grade points and their mixing.

 

[Jacowboy]

The problem here being that the stat screen does not display each sponsor's grades. That is only shown in the MiniStat screen before the KLevels are awarded... that's likely the most important data. I'll check on my end real quick... the VN's code is what it is though, so I might be mistaken regarding Jul/Ver grade points and their mixing.

No clue, I just followed the WT posted on page 1 here... That said, I just played the game yesterday/today... maybe there were changes made to S1? No clue...

I can tell you from memory I went for a Veronica sponsorship for story purposes and I didn't want Junko romance 'cause I wanted to dick everything freely... I passed all tests perfectly... I chose Veronica for 1st activity, saved the nurse, and then Dominique for 2nd activity and passed both activities perfectly.

I went from K6 start, to K7 channel recommendation, to K9 after the 2 manager training sessions ...

 

[YuNobi1]

Quickly eyeballed my notes (they're old, with many revisions as I worked but basically):

Ep6 is where K9 is set and you need max Domonique for the K9, otherwise you're K8 or less.
Player can only receive max Jul or max Ver pnts (between the two) and needs max Dom's pnts too.
It takes 8 DomThronePoints to get K9 ("Dom" meaning dominate in this variable).

The only way DomThronePoints are awarded:

Spoiler: Code

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DomThronePoints(8) to KLevel. This is the only way to make k9 True:

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DomThronePoints are the absolute key here, you must have 8 (or more technically which isn't possible) to get to K9.. it's the only way the variable is ever set to True in the entire VN to date.

Edited for more description and clarity.

The problem here being that the stat screen does not display each sponsor's grades. That is only shown in the MiniStat screen before the KLevels are awarded... that's likely the most important data. I'll check on my end real quick... the VN's code is what it is though, so I might be mistaken regarding Jul/Ver grade points and their mixing.

The "d/v/jgrades" aren't related to sponsors but how Kane performed in each sister's manager training sessions. Max points come if you do everything the sister wants you to do/you impress that sister (i.e. Veronica doesn't want you to save Maria, but it impresses her). You can only do 2 out of the 3 sisters. The fact that they are optional sponsors is pure coincidence, as you can do training with a non-sponsor (on my Dominica run, you don't get Veronica's sponsorship until after she shows Kane the room, which only happens if you save Maria).

 

[Sancho1969]

Quickly eyeballed my notes (they're old, with many revisions as I worked but basically):
...

I'll have to edit this post a tad... I forgot, regardless of the sponsor Veronica is mandatory and it's Juliette or Domonique that one must choose to get the next set of grade points. Edit: replied to post corrected.

You can totally K9 without Domonique as sponsor... hell, you don't need any sponsor:

In the above I had Domonique as a sponsor but ditched her to work for Juliette. Result is no sponsor but chose correctly to be awarded enough overall grade points (the MiniStat keeps track and guides you).

Jacowboy YuNobi1 - confirmed... no sponsor even required. The MiniStat never lies.

 

[SlowGoesSlow]

The major branch factors to end on k9 dom for 0.7 are strongwalk (for k6 start no slave points) -> high sis/bro or junkoromance with dom sponsor -> pass all the tests. This can be done with any sponsor/goodevildemon path. Basically ditch Jake, be homies with your sister or romance Junko and don't be a dumbass. If you want it really simple.

 

[Jacowboy]

confirmed... no sponsor even required. The MiniStat never lies.

I mean... yeah... I wasn't lying...

Not sure what you need for a "high honors" rating tho... it's possible you need to save the nurse, but maybe just completing any 2 trainings succesfully might do the trick... I'm too lazy to try those paths... but whatevs.

I guess that answers my own question tho, no real point in getting multiple sponsors (or any really) yet, so I'll keep that PT for now I suppose.