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I still haven't really figured Olivia out. I understand that we can shape a part of her character through actions but always feels like she's acting in every scene regardless.
That's because Kane is the main protagonist so a lot of the stuff that would explain her actions happens offscreen, so you get the occasional explanation as highlighted by Maviarab
 

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Don't fall for it or you'll have to eat dog food out of a bowl and drink it with urine...I don't know what other disgusting things they (Alessa and Co) came up with, but that scene alone was enough for me to realize that it was bullshit.
To be fair (again)...you never actually eat out of the bowl, you do lick off food from Alessa's boot (providing you not already said enough and end the path). It's Alyssa who suggests pissing in the bowl and you get this:
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Each major thing on this route gives you a decision (Alessa Love or Pet points). You can also completely opt out and say you're not doing anything in front of her 'friends' (but this does end the route). This is also (to add context) the first time she is 'showing off' so to speak (the Celeste scene earlier is not really terribly submissive for Kane and is still more fun with the girls in a way).

Here, Alessa is seeing how committed to her you are, which leads to the future scenes. Also, the next scene (with Pat) is very different altogether and much more 'sexual' (as it should be) but again, has 2 very different variations to it..one where Alessa is a bit of bitch, and one where she shows her more caring/loving side...(and this continues with her even saying the 'L' word in the next SS scene which is in Part 2 with Angelica).

So while I'm not a fan of it ....it's not as bad as you think/make it out to be, that one specific scene aside.
 

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To be fair (again)...you never actually eat out of the bowl, you do lick off food from Alessa's boot (providing you not already said enough and end the path). It's Alyssa who suggests pissing in the bowl and you get this:
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Each major thing on this route gives you a decision (Alessa Love or Pet points). You can also completely opt out and say you're not doing anything in front of her 'friends' (but this does end the route). This is also (to add context) the first time she is 'showing off' so to speak (the Celeste scene earlier is not really terribly submissive for Kane and is still more fun with the girls in a way).

Here, Alessa is seeing how committed to her you are, which leads to the future scenes. Also, the next scene (with Pat) is very different altogether and much more 'sexual' (as it should be) but again, has 2 very different variations to it..one where Alessa is a bit of bitch, and one where she shows her more caring/loving side...(and this continues with her even saying the 'L' word in the next SS scene which is in Part 2 with Angelica).

So while I'm not a fan of it ....it's not as bad as you think/make it out to be, that one specific scene aside.
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My Secret Sub run has Alessa picking the less humiliating stuff. Does anyone know if Alessa gives the whole "Do you want only female doms or doms and subs?" choice if you have her doing the pet thing with Kane instead? I don't have it in me to run two different SS routes, at least not until SS gets some kind of sub branch (if that happens at all).

Also, you 100% shouldn't trust Alessa. I imagine she'll out Kane on a whim on the pet path if she can get some type of enjoyment out of his humiliation.
 

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I certainly won't disagree with you Stan, even if in Part 2 she says it's part of a plan and to trust she knows what she is doing heh....like yeeahhhh lmao
My Secret Sub run has Alessa picking the less humiliating stuff. Does anyone know if Alessa gives the whole "Do you want only female doms or doms and subs?" choice if you have her doing the pet thing with Kane instead? I don't have it in me to run two different SS routes, at least not until SS gets some kind of sub branch (if that happens at all).

Also, you 100% shouldn't trust Alessa. I imagine she'll out Kane on a whim on the pet path if she can get some type of enjoyment out of his humiliation.
It's one of the very few paths I have not actually done a save for previously...but I will be getting around to it while redoing my saves just to see if it does significantly affect/change anything....though I doubt it will personally, just a change of the actual scenes with her.

I also agree that her whims are potentially highly problematic if go the pet route.

(To add to that...she may be good at figures but generally, I would say Alessa is definitely very 'whimsical'....hell, even Jules seems to actual think before acting most of the time, Dom and V for sure do where as yeah, Alessa might offer you ice cream or stick your balls in the ice cream on a spur of the moment whim depending on her mood).
 
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I certainly won't disagree with you Stan, even if in Part 2 she says it's part of a plan and to trust she knows what she is doing heh....like yeeahhhh lmao
Sure, because if Thad trusts her, why wouldn't SSKane trust her? She also has a lot of spare cells... I guess Alessa is a blacksmith, and she likes to create such constructions. Yeah, nowadays it's rare to meet such kind girls who can work with their own hands. So SSKanePet definitely has nothing to fear. :KEK: ;)
 

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Sure, because if Thad trusts her, why wouldn't SSKane trust her? She also has a lot of spare cells... I guess Alessa is a blacksmith, and she likes to create such constructions. Yeah, nowadays it's rare to meet such kind girls who can work with their own hands. So SSKanePet definitely has nothing to fear. :KEK: ;)
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On a related note, I was reminded of an old anecdote that reflects a lot of things that happen on some routes in KG... It's just a joke, so no offense intended.

I've rearranged the characters a bit, and have one named "SSKane" and the other named "Alessa with a strapon".

SSKane: Alessa, what's a "nuance"?

Alessa: - Take your pants off, Kane, I'll show you.

Kane is a little perplexed but takes off his pants. Alessa walks up behind him, shoves her thick dildo in his ass and explains:

"Watch this, Kane. "You've got a dick in the ass, and I've got a dick in the ass...". But!
There's one nuance!:KEK: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:;)
 

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On a related note, I was reminded of an old anecdote that reflects a lot of things that happen on some routes in KG... It's just a joke, so no offense intended.

I've rearranged the characters a bit, and have one named "SSKane" and the other named "Alessa with a strapon".

SSKane: Alessa, what's a "nuance"?

Alessa: - Take your pants off, Kane, I'll show you.

Kane is a little perplexed but takes off his pants. Alessa walks up behind him, shoves her thick dildo in his ass and explains:

"Watch this, Kane. "You've got a dick in the ass, and I've got a dick in the ass...". But!
There's one nuance!:KEK: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:;)
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:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Shtaaaap...out of reactions lol.
 

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Do you think Tess will try to keep the different factions around the same size as the story starts to bring them in conflict with each other? It seems Olivia has the power to possibly sway people to her camp (Katsumi) and obviously Dom Kane will have influence on what people will do.

Using the example above, if Juliette and Olivia came into conflict, Katsumi could be in a predicament based on Olivia's choices. Kat seems to be apart of Juliette's faction but when Elena and Olivia make the play on her in the office and Kat starts to build slave points with Olivia, I can totally see Kat doing whatever it takes for her to survive/continue climbing. Plus it brings into question if Kat is already spying on Juliette for Elena, and it's masked well because of Kat's sadism blending her into the group.

When Dom Kane really gets to flex, will the sponsorships matter? If you played against a sister (not killing Dumbo for Juliette means no sponsorship for her, not following with Dominique's plan to get close to Veronica, declining Olivia), there's a scenario where a Dom Kane is sort of on his own. Not sure how ideal it is yet since almost all the sponsorships have paid off in some way so far.

In this scenario would Kane eventually get his own faction? Obviously he wouldn't be free to pick everyone (that would be a coding nightmare) but the freedom to sway a couple of the less powerful would be fun. Gives a chance to make good on the Patricia deal. I don't have a lot of concrete thoughts on this yet because so many people seem cemented in their factions. You're not gonna break up Elena and Olivia, Chanel should also be off limits. Junko seems be glued to Dominique but at the same time, Dominique had to give her up to Katsumi if Kane took Kat's virginity. I'm not sure how loyal any of Juliette's crew are, though I imagine Mercy fills the Junko spot, even though Juliette doesn't act like it. The Vipers are all over the place too.
 
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Do you think Tess will try to keep the different factions around the same size as the story starts to bring them in conflict with each other? It seems Olivia has the power to possibly sway people to her camp (Katsumi) and obviously Dom Kane will have influence on what people will do.

Using the example above, if Juliette and Olivia came into conflict, Katsumi could be in a predicament based on Olivia's choices. Kat seems to be apart of Juliette's faction but when Elena and Olivia make the play on her in the office and Kat starts to build slave points with Olivia, I can totally see Kat doing whatever it takes for her to survive/continue climbing. Plus it brings into question if Kat is already spying on Juliette for Elena, and it's masked well because of Kat's sadism blending her into the group.
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When Dom Kane really gets to flex, will the sponsorships matter? If you played against a sister (not killing Dumbo for Juliette means no sponsorship for her, not following with Dominique's plan to get close to Veronica, declining Olivia), there's a scenario where a Dom Kane is sort of on his own. Not sure how ideal it is yet since almost all the sponsorships have paid off in some way so far.
I can't see how it will (as aside from one instance that I can recall right now, it hasn't mattered really all that much so far), however, I cannot see it being completely useless either. Tess adds all these variables and flags for a reason, even if we have forgotten about them and they were updates ago. Exactly how they may become useful remains to be seen, though perhaps they may come into play (you can get three sponsors currently depending on path) at the next evaluation...will we hit K10 or go straight to M1? (which is possible btw, but will require a very specific set of flags/points to happen I believe).

In this scenario would Kane eventually get his own faction? Obviously he wouldn't be free to pick everyone (that would be a coding nightmare) but the freedom to sway a couple of the less powerful would be fun. Gives a chance to make good on the Patricia deal. I don't have a lot of concrete thoughts on this yet because so many people seem cemented in their factions. You're not gonna break up Elena and Olivia, Chanel should also be off limits. Junko seems be glued to Dominique but at the same time, Dominique had to give her up to Katsumi if Kane took Kat's virginity. I'm not sure how loyal any of Juliette's crew are, though I imagine Mercy fills the Junko spot, even though Juliette doesn't act like it. The Vipers are all over the place too.
Own faction, I don't think so. We will just influence whoever we side with and remember, depending on your save, Kane can be top of the pile with his chosen LI under him. I think that will be very end-game but who knows, it may come earlier and then perhaps we can influence others....however, I refer you back to the screenshot above.
 

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I can't see how it will (as aside from one instance that I can recall right now, it hasn't mattered really all that much so far), however, I cannot see it being completely useless either. Tess adds all these variables and flags for a reason, even if we have forgotten about them and they were updates ago. Exactly how they may become useful remains to be seen, though perhaps they may come into play (you can get three sponsors currently depending on path) at the next evaluation...will we hit K10 or go straight to M1? (which is possible btw, but will require a very specific set of flags/points to happen I believe).


Own faction, I don't think so. We will just influence whoever we side with and remember, depending on your save, Kane can be top of the pile with his chosen LI under him. I think that will be very end-game but who knows, it may come earlier and then perhaps we can influence others....however, I refer you back to the screenshot above.
A) I need to get my hands on that chart.
B) The three sponsor situation is Good Kane with Dominique, saving Reyes for Veronica, then agreeing with Olivia for Olivia/Elena?
C) Own faction did seem like a stretch. None of the sisters are going to willingly give up any sort of power for Kane unless he allies with them and then that defeats the purpose of having his own faction, it's basically taking over someone else's.

Build a harem was fun for a couple of minutes even if it was unrealistic.
 
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