VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

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I certainly won't disagree with you Stan, even if in Part 2 she says it's part of a plan and to trust she knows what she is doing heh....like yeeahhhh lmao

My Secret Sub run has Alessa picking the less humiliating stuff. Does anyone know if Alessa gives the whole "Do you want only female doms or doms and subs?" choice if you have her doing the pet thing with Kane instead? I don't have it in me to run two different SS routes, at least not until SS gets some kind of sub branch (if that happens at all).

Also, you 100% shouldn't trust Alessa. I imagine she'll out Kane on a whim on the pet path if she can get some type of enjoyment out of his humiliation.

It's one of the very few paths I have not actually done a save for previously...but I will be getting around to it while redoing my saves just to see if it does significantly affect/change anything....though I doubt it will personally, just a change of the actual scenes with her.

I also agree that her whims are potentially highly problematic if go the pet route.

(To add to that...she may be good at figures but generally, I would say Alessa is definitely very 'whimsical'....hell, even Jules seems to actual think before acting most of the time, Dom and V for sure do where as yeah, Alessa might offer you ice cream or stick your balls in the ice cream on a spur of the moment whim depending on her mood).

 

[Stan5851]

I certainly won't disagree with you Stan, even if in Part 2 she says it's part of a plan and to trust she knows what she is doing heh....like yeeahhhh lmao

Sure, because if Thad trusts her, why wouldn't SSKane trust her? She also has a lot of spare cells... I guess Alessa is a blacksmith, and she likes to create such constructions. Yeah, nowadays it's rare to meet such kind girls who can work with their own hands. So SSKanePet definitely has nothing to fear.

 

[Maviarab]

Sure, because if Thad trusts her, why wouldn't SSKane trust her? She also has a lot of spare cells... I guess Alessa is a blacksmith, and she likes to create such constructions. Yeah, nowadays it's rare to meet such kind girls who can work with their own hands. So SSKanePet definitely has nothing to fear.

 

[Stan5851]

On a related note, I was reminded of an old anecdote that reflects a lot of things that happen on some routes in KG... It's just a joke, so no offense intended.

I've rearranged the characters a bit, and have one named "SSKane" and the other named "Alessa with a strapon".

SSKane: Alessa, what's a "nuance"?

Alessa: - Take your pants off, Kane, I'll show you.

Kane is a little perplexed but takes off his pants. Alessa walks up behind him, shoves her thick dildo in his ass and explains:

"Watch this, Kane. "You've got a dick in the ass, and I've got a dick in the ass...". But!
There's one nuance!

 

[Maviarab]

On a related note, I was reminded of an old anecdote that reflects a lot of things that happen on some routes in KG... It's just a joke, so no offense intended.

I've rearranged the characters a bit, and have one named "SSKane" and the other named "Alessa with a strapon".

SSKane: Alessa, what's a "nuance"?

Alessa: - Take your pants off, Kane, I'll show you.

Kane is a little perplexed but takes off his pants. Alessa walks up behind him, shoves her thick dildo in his ass and explains:

"Watch this, Kane. "You've got a dick in the ass, and I've got a dick in the ass...". But!
There's one nuance!

Shtaaaap...out of reactions lol.

 

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A question what is the highest ranking you can get to in Part 1? is it K8? or what?

 

[Maviarab]

A question what is the highest ranking you can get to in Part 1? is it K8? or what?

K9.

 

[Stan5851]

A question what is the highest ranking you can get to in Part 1? is it K8? or what?

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[jadepaladin]

Do you think Tess will try to keep the different factions around the same size as the story starts to bring them in conflict with each other? It seems Olivia has the power to possibly sway people to her camp (Katsumi) and obviously Dom Kane will have influence on what people will do.

Using the example above, if Juliette and Olivia came into conflict, Katsumi could be in a predicament based on Olivia's choices. Kat seems to be apart of Juliette's faction but when Elena and Olivia make the play on her in the office and Kat starts to build slave points with Olivia, I can totally see Kat doing whatever it takes for her to survive/continue climbing. Plus it brings into question if Kat is already spying on Juliette for Elena, and it's masked well because of Kat's sadism blending her into the group.

When Dom Kane really gets to flex, will the sponsorships matter? If you played against a sister (not killing Dumbo for Juliette means no sponsorship for her, not following with Dominique's plan to get close to Veronica, declining Olivia), there's a scenario where a Dom Kane is sort of on his own. Not sure how ideal it is yet since almost all the sponsorships have paid off in some way so far.

In this scenario would Kane eventually get his own faction? Obviously he wouldn't be free to pick everyone (that would be a coding nightmare) but the freedom to sway a couple of the less powerful would be fun. Gives a chance to make good on the Patricia deal. I don't have a lot of concrete thoughts on this yet because so many people seem cemented in their factions. You're not gonna break up Elena and Olivia, Chanel should also be off limits. Junko seems be glued to Dominique but at the same time, Dominique had to give her up to Katsumi if Kane took Kat's virginity. I'm not sure how loyal any of Juliette's crew are, though I imagine Mercy fills the Junko spot, even though Juliette doesn't act like it. The Vipers are all over the place too.

 

[Maviarab]

Do you think Tess will try to keep the different factions around the same size as the story starts to bring them in conflict with each other? It seems Olivia has the power to possibly sway people to her camp (Katsumi) and obviously Dom Kane will have influence on what people will do.

Using the example above, if Juliette and Olivia came into conflict, Katsumi could be in a predicament based on Olivia's choices. Kat seems to be apart of Juliette's faction but when Elena and Olivia make the play on her in the office and Kat starts to build slave points with Olivia, I can totally see Kat doing whatever it takes for her to survive/continue climbing. Plus it brings into question if Kat is already spying on Juliette for Elena, and it's masked well because of Kat's sadism blending her into the group.

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When Dom Kane really gets to flex, will the sponsorships matter? If you played against a sister (not killing Dumbo for Juliette means no sponsorship for her, not following with Dominique's plan to get close to Veronica, declining Olivia), there's a scenario where a Dom Kane is sort of on his own. Not sure how ideal it is yet since almost all the sponsorships have paid off in some way so far.

I can't see how it will (as aside from one instance that I can recall right now, it hasn't mattered really all that much so far), however, I cannot see it being completely useless either. Tess adds all these variables and flags for a reason, even if we have forgotten about them and they were updates ago. Exactly how they may become useful remains to be seen, though perhaps they may come into play (you can get three sponsors currently depending on path) at the next evaluation...will we hit K10 or go straight to M1? (which is possible btw, but will require a very specific set of flags/points to happen I believe).

In this scenario would Kane eventually get his own faction? Obviously he wouldn't be free to pick everyone (that would be a coding nightmare) but the freedom to sway a couple of the less powerful would be fun. Gives a chance to make good on the Patricia deal. I don't have a lot of concrete thoughts on this yet because so many people seem cemented in their factions. You're not gonna break up Elena and Olivia, Chanel should also be off limits. Junko seems be glued to Dominique but at the same time, Dominique had to give her up to Katsumi if Kane took Kat's virginity. I'm not sure how loyal any of Juliette's crew are, though I imagine Mercy fills the Junko spot, even though Juliette doesn't act like it. The Vipers are all over the place too.

Own faction, I don't think so. We will just influence whoever we side with and remember, depending on your save, Kane can be top of the pile with his chosen LI under him. I think that will be very end-game but who knows, it may come earlier and then perhaps we can influence others....however, I refer you back to the screenshot above.

 

[jadepaladin]

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I can't see how it will (as aside from one instance that I can recall right now, it hasn't mattered really all that much so far), however, I cannot see it being completely useless either. Tess adds all these variables and flags for a reason, even if we have forgotten about them and they were updates ago. Exactly how they may become useful remains to be seen, though perhaps they may come into play (you can get three sponsors currently depending on path) at the next evaluation...will we hit K10 or go straight to M1? (which is possible btw, but will require a very specific set of flags/points to happen I believe).


Own faction, I don't think so. We will just influence whoever we side with and remember, depending on your save, Kane can be top of the pile with his chosen LI under him. I think that will be very end-game but who knows, it may come earlier and then perhaps we can influence others....however, I refer you back to the screenshot above.

A) I need to get my hands on that chart.
B) The three sponsor situation is Good Kane with Dominique, saving Reyes for Veronica, then agreeing with Olivia for Olivia/Elena?
C) Own faction did seem like a stretch. None of the sisters are going to willingly give up any sort of power for Kane unless he allies with them and then that defeats the purpose of having his own faction, it's basically taking over someone else's.

Build a harem was fun for a couple of minutes even if it was unrealistic.

 

[Maviarab]

A) I need to get my hands on that chart.
B) The three sponsor situation is Good Kane with Dominique, saving Reyes for Veronica, then agreeing with Olivia for Olivia/Elena?
C) Own faction did seem like a stretch. None of the sisters are going to willingly give up any sort of power for Kane unless he allies with them and then that defeats the purpose of having his own faction, it's basically taking over someone else's.

Build a harem was fun for a couple of minutes even if it was unrealistic.

A. ...get in line lol. Would make all my own sheets much easier lol. I keep trying to tease info out of her at times but she never lets anything slips she doesn't want knowing before it's revealed.
B. Sorry, only the SecretSub route can get 3 sponsors currently, Alessa, Dom and V. (I don't think that route will skip K10 though).
C. Yeah you nailed it there...you will join one of the sisters factions and then yes, potentially lead it or join lead it with them I would imagine. We could be miles away...but that seems logical.

Well..we do now have a 'harem' flag for K9 Kane and Dominique stated (so my previous posts months ago make me look like an idiot now) that it's the 'start of our harem'...so it's canon now...Tess done a 180 there (even if her definition is different to most people's....it's still like a LOT of women for us heh)

 

[FDMuser]

On a related note, I was reminded of an old anecdote that reflects a lot of things that happen on some routes in KG... It's just a joke, so no offense intended.

I've rearranged the characters a bit, and have one named "SSKane" and the other named "Alessa with a strapon".

SSKane: Alessa, what's a "nuance"?

Alessa: - Take your pants off, Kane, I'll show you.

Kane is a little perplexed but takes off his pants. Alessa walks up behind him, shoves her thick dildo in his ass and explains:

"Watch this, Kane. "You've got a dick in the ass, and I've got a dick in the ass...". But!
There's one nuance!

I've had a joke on the tip of my tongue for a long time about the many situations when Kane is offered patronage. In fact, it suits many girls, Alessandra is not the favorite here. But I'm using her name to keep to the intended trend:


Kane: Alessandra, lend me a dollar?

Alessandra: OK. But money should make money, in a week you'll return 2 dollars to me

Kane: Hmmm. OK. Fair enough. Thank you, Alessandra.


(Kane takes the dollar from Alessandra and is about to leave)


Alessandra: Kane, wait! I was thinking, after all, we don't know each other very well. And who knows what can happen to you here in a week... In short, you should leave me something as collateral!

Kane: Well, yeah, that's reasonable. But what can I leave, I have nothing, only ... well, maybe ... my panties

Alessandra: fuck..... Okay, give me your panties and get lost.

(Kane takes off his panties, gives them to Alessandra and starts to leave naked)


Alessandra: Kane, wait! I was thinking, it will probably be hard for you to give me back 2 dollars at once in a week, won't it?

Kane: hmmm..... well, yeah, maybe. (((I'm on k 4, all we earn here is beatings and strap-ons in the ass)))

Alessandra: I'll help you. Let's have you give me 1 dollar NOW, and you'll give me the second dollar in a week. It will be easier for you.

Kane: hmmm...well, yeah, it will be easier to pay in installments. Thanks, Alessandra.


(Kane gives the dollar to Alessandra and while naked he returns to his cell he thinks: )
Kane's thoughts:
I didn't have a dollar - and I don't have it....
I had panties - and I don't have them....
and now I owe Alessandra 1 dollar....
AND FUCK! EVERYTHING IS CORRECT!!!

 

[Stan5851]

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I can't see how it will (as aside from one instance that I can recall right now, it hasn't mattered really all that much so far), however, I cannot see it being completely useless either. Tess adds all these variables and flags for a reason, even if we have forgotten about them and they were updates ago. Exactly how they may become useful remains to be seen, though perhaps they may come into play (you can get three sponsors currently depending on path) at the next evaluation...will we hit K10 or go straight to M1? (which is possible btw, but will require a very specific set of flags/points to happen I believe).


Own faction, I don't think so. We will just influence whoever we side with and remember, depending on your save, Kane can be top of the pile with his chosen LI under him. I think that will be very end-game but who knows, it may come earlier and then perhaps we can influence others....however, I refer you back to the screenshot above.

In general, I agree. As for Katsumi...despite her formal submission to Juliette, I'm pretty sure she'd betray her at the snap of her fingers if/when Olivia wanted her to.

BTW, I missed this Tess's post, thanks Mav for sharing it...Well, now we have a chance to fuck Elena in bed with our little "sis"...Ofc, they won't be kissing and touching each other, but they will definitely throw hot jealous glances at each other if our KaneDom gets too involved with one of them. Well, we'll have to improvise. (*sound of a juicy slap on Elena's ass*)

 

[Maviarab]

As for Katsumi...despite her formal submission to Juliette, I'm pretty sure she'd betray her at the snap of her fingers if/when Olivia wanted her to.

Agree....Jules has already lost her given she has always been Elena's bitch more than Jules'.

BTW, I missed this Tess's post, thanks Mav for sharing it

Was in Patreon chat, relevent to JP's line of thinking/questioning so thought would show it.

Edit: To add to this, Yvette will always side with her daughter's, so another char that cannot be influenced. That leaves us with how many factions will there be exactly and will Dom/Jules maintain their temporary alliance or not? I am aware of another character that would seemingly be logical to place but know she can switch (on the SubPath) but not sure if actually set in stone so will not say yet...so, still more insane amounts of branching to try and keep track of in the future.

 

[romo-ice]

Has the dev given any insight as to whether Dominque is different depending on whether she has good points or not.Playing through different paths in the Dom route, if you don't pass her test, it seems like she's still a closet super sadist but just doesn't share it with the MC, but there's a conversation between Astrid and Yvette in the revolution route that uses her points to have Yvette indicate that she's nicer than people might think and might be willing to help.

 

[cool230105]

It's the "Game # 1"

In the final version of pt2 (KG), Tess will add a separate scene to introduce this game from Anais to the general public. The game has not been created yet, so no one knows any timeline.

And in general, use a search on the thread. It's a handy and powerful tool that allows you to find almost any post.

Thanks for the info

 

[Stan5851]

Has the dev given any insight as to whether Dominque is different depending on whether she has good points or not.Playing through different paths in the Dom route, if you don't pass her test, it seems like she's still a closet super sadist but just doesn't share it with the MC, but there's a conversation between Astrid and Yvette in the revolution route that uses her points to have Yvette indicate that she's nicer than people might think and might be willing to help.

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[vongoladex]

Gameshow, a rescue mission, and a high probability of something going wrong... I don't think Kane has time to go down the mine anymore

 

[Maviarab]

Gameshow, a rescue mission, and a high probability of something going wrong... I don't think Kane has time to go down the mine anymore

Was that in response to someone or just a random post?