Silver_Crow117

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Also....Q&A updated. Some interesting info regarding Dominique and other romance arcs.
Sub side eating good! literally :sneaky: characters Like Juliette, Doctor Chastain having a weird type ofRomance” with sub Kane and other characters as well! Obviously they can have slave/servant variation routes as well if conditions for weird romances not met but yeah!
 

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I believe the same Amara stuff happens whether or not you pass her test. Passing her test is basically her showing her true stuff to Kane, if not she'll remain the same conflicted character that gave Veronica pause in supporting her.
This is proved in 0.8 Part 2. Amara being Dominique's captive to keep Kwame in line is cannon. On this, I also presume that Dominique never letting Kwame become anything more than her servant (Amara is just a dangling carrot)...is also a cannon plot.
 
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On a related note, I was reminded of an old anecdote that reflects a lot of things that happen on some routes in KG... It's just a joke, so no offense intended.

I've rearranged the characters a bit, and have one named "SSKane" and the other named "Alessa with a strapon".

SSKane: Alessa, what's a "nuance"?

Alessa: - Take your pants off, Kane, I'll show you.

Kane is a little perplexed but takes off his pants. Alessa walks up behind him, shoves her thick dildo in his ass and explains:

"Watch this, Kane. "You've got a dick in the ass, and I've got a dick in the ass...". But!
There's one nuance!:KEK: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:;)
Very funny, although this dialogue is impossible :LUL:.

A little spoiler for a scene from Season 1 (can't remember which Episode) with Kane suffering in K4.

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I'm very lazy about these things, but I have to apply Sancho's fix to my three saves to get them ready for the final version.

It was something unexpected, but I don't think I'll ever install a mod again, so I'm not dependent on it being updated or not. Or only use it in a finished game :WeSmart:.

I'll also tell you that I didn't dare use URM on this game for fear of corrupting my many hours of saves, but I am learning by using it on other shorter and simpler games.
 

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I'm very lazy about these things, but I have to apply Sancho's fix to my three saves to get them ready for the final version.

It was something unexpected, but I don't think I'll ever install a mod again, so I'm not dependent on it being updated or not. Or only use it in a finished game :WeSmart:.

I'll also tell you that I didn't dare use URM on this game for fear of corrupting my many hours of saves, but I am learning by using it on other shorter and simpler games.
This is the only VN I used a mod for, unlikely I'll bother with Steely's and yes, URM is such a wonderful tool, for fixing a devs bad code if nothing else.
 
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This is the only VN I used a mod for, unlikely I'll bother with Steely's and yes, URM is such a wonderful tool, for fixing a devs bad code if nothing else.
I liked it so much that I ended up installing SanchoMod on other games like Thirty Days, Chasing Sunsets, Summer Scent, etc., so you can imagine the fixes that await me :ROFLMAO:.
 

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I'll also tell you that I didn't dare use URM on this game for fear of corrupting my many hours of saves, but I am learning by using it on other shorter and simpler games.
I never had a bad experience with URM. It runs "on top" of Ren'Py watching what's going on. Only problem that's somewhat frequent is when devs mess with reserved variables... Sometimes devs want to be "innovative" with their coding and we can't see shit of what's going on, but that's uncommon.
One thing I do, when memorizing variables, is renaming them from their cryptic title to an explanation of their meaning. The new title stays only in the .urm file and the original code remains untouched. Very useful to remind me of that important decision on chapter X tagged chXpt1X2etc3!
 

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I'm very lazy about these things, but I have to apply Sancho's fix to my three saves to get them ready for the final version.

It was something unexpected, but I don't think I'll ever install a mod again, so I'm not dependent on it being updated or not. Or only use it in a finished game :WeSmart:.

I'll also tell you that I didn't dare use URM on this game for fear of corrupting my many hours of saves, but I am learning by using it on other shorter and simpler games.
I've used URM at this point on something like 30+ games and have run into issues maybe twice. In the worst case you just delete the rpy file and you're good. Now, if you start using URM to muck with variables, and break your saves, can't really work around that. As it stands, I don't play any RenPy VN's without URM installed.
 
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URM has changed the way I look at VNs. Now if I bump into an issue, as long as it's tied to a variable or flag I can fix it myself and just make a note to tell someone.
The only time this doesn't work is when it seems unrelated to flags. I ran into one of those in a different VN and I'm having to wait for a fix because it affects how I'd play the story.

URM also means I don't have to wait on people like Scrappy or Sancho (hope he's okay) to update.
 

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URM has changed the way I look at VNs. Now if I bump into an issue, as long as it's tied to a variable or flag I can fix it myself and just make a note to tell someone.
The only time this doesn't work is when it seems unrelated to flags. I ran into one of those in a different VN and I'm having to wait for a fix because it affects how I'd play the story.

URM also means I don't have to wait on people like Scrappy or Sancho (hope he's okay) to update.
Honestly, it's a shame more do not use/try URM, most are scared off when they see "mod it yourself" when it's really not like that.

You install it, it will show you when a choice pops up and you click it and will show details, sure it doesn't have fancy click the writing in green and don't click the writing in red lol, but still, it's stupid easy to use.

You can make your own incest patch on the fly, all kinds of shit :devilish:
 

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I believe the same Amara stuff happens whether or not you pass her test. Passing her test is basically her showing her true stuff to Kane, if not she'll remain the same conflicted character that gave Veronica pause in supporting her.
This is proved in 0.8 Part 2. Amara being Dominique's captive to keep Kwame in line is cannon. On this, I also presume that Dominique never letting Kwame become anything more than her servant (Amara is just a dangling carrot)...is also a cannon plot.
Well, guys, let's start in order..

So far I only have 2 completed saves out of 10 Dom saves, and it just so happens that the first two completed saves are the ones where my main GreyDom Kane has the dominiquetestpass=true flag. So, of course, I was unaware of Amara's presence in the save where Dominique is conditionally good and where our KaneDom is having a romance with her... So I did another run and chose a save with GoodDom Kane, $dominiquetestpass=false, $dominiqueromanceopen and $revolutionunlock flag (romance with Junko and all that). Overall, I liked this route, maybe it will become a higher priority than it was for me before..

Regarding Amara - yes, she's still a captive, but KaneDom affects the events that happen to him and Dominique anyway, and her attitudes towards certain people in the here and now. Example - a very important choice for Dominique (which, btw, has consequences already in pt2) - to spare the miner or not (in the season 1).. Or the example with Amara - if KaneDom starts a romance with good Dominique, there is no humiliation and domination over Amara (on the part of Kane and Dominique). There are other examples in the here and now, such as in pt2, where Dominique behaves more gently towards Mercy or the same Amara without trying to provoke Kane to piss on her head.
Passing her test is basically her showing her true stuff to Kane, if not she'll remain the same conflicted character that gave Veronica pause in supporting her.
No, it's not consistent with reality. I was not lazy and specifically checked again by doing a fast run. My Kane Dom met Dominique at the pool and told her to think of herself and this is what we got after...
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So as you can see, she's still living with her inner conflict and even Veronica in this case is telling her all the same things she would tell good Dominique.

So Amara's appearance in pt2 on Dominique's good path hasn't changed anything for me, and I still think Dominique's personality will be able to be adjusted for the better (within the given limits delineated by her average level of flexibility that Tess has bestowed upon her).
 
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I've used URM at this point on something like 30+ games and have run into issues maybe twice. In the worst case you just delete the rpy file and you're good. Now, if you start using URM to muck with variables, and break your saves, can't really work around that. As it stands, I don't play any RenPy VN's without URM installed.
Yes, I don't use it to change any variables, just to see the requirements for each possible answer (like when we have a greyed out option and we don't know why) and stuff like that.

Although I am learning to modify the texts and remove the black box that many games have, to see if I can unify and have a similar text and fonts in almost all the games :cool:.
Universal Choice Descriptor will do similar for those requiring info right there on the decision box. Use both in conjuction with each other (UCD doesn't like sandboxes/free-roams though etc).
It won't work for me, more than half of what I play is sandbox :KEK:.

And of the non-sandbox games, I have to admit that KG is the most complicated, where you can easily get lost and screw up. Most of them are easy to follow novels with just a few clicks.
 
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