VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2 Test] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

The official Ep7 walkthrough to help you out. In it, Tess has put far more information than some players may realise (and that doesn't just apply to the notes at the end).

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Yup. She is surprisingly open and honest in the walkthrough (now she is doing it herself) about what may or may not be happening and making you aware of consequences etc. Spoilarfic to hell...but great footnotes to read for those wanting to delve deeper.

In fact hell, at this point I'd call it more of an in-depth guide than a walkthrough.

 

[YuNobi1]

No, it's said a few times by certain characters (on both Dom/Sub paths) that the '6 months' was a total lie. It's there purely for the entertainment of VIP guests, nothing more and that many won't even finish the program. You're also informed a couple of times that no one is ever going to get a job with the company regardless of how well they may do (MC obviously, an exception on the dom route).

Game Day 04 (GD04) is also Joy Facility Day 2 and the start of the program (Program Day 01), though you are correct the program does not 'officially' start until Game Day 05.

The official Ep7 walkthrough to help you out. In it, Tess has put far more information than some players may realise (and that doesn't just apply to the notes at the end).

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Well, again, it wasn't just the prisoners who were told this. Alessandra also told Olivia that her own probationary program was also supposed to last 6 months, and her entire purpose is to compete in [*hack* win *hack*] the Gambit, while Seth hasn't been given any timetables.

 

[Maviarab]

Well, again, it wasn't just the prisoners who were told this. Alessandra also told Olivia that her own probationary program was also supposed to last 6 months, and her entire purpose is to compete in [*hack* win *hack*] the Gambit, while Seth hasn't been given any timetables.

Think back on all the dialogue in that scene. Pretty much everything Alessa tells Olivia is a version of truth but bent slightly. Alessa playing her like a fiddle and just just getting on her good side. However, not going to get into a whole conversation over this again, but Olivia is very well aware of Alessa's suck uppyness. On the sub route specifically (because for some reason, Olivia gets a lot more content there), she knows/realises (this is not opinion...it's fact, within the game) that the whole thing is a sham and a scam.

Have to understand, as the Warden of the facility and program, she is going to meet Kane eventually, even if not specifically set up...so Alessandra has to keep up with the narrative that Elena used in prison. Remember, this was not an individual decision, it was a board decision to do everything they did. Elena was chosen to go to prison, Alessandra was chosen as the best person to butter Olivia up. This is stated within the game. So she has to tell Olivia the same thing she knows Elena told Kane.

While I suppose once at the facility, it matters not (cos...how you going to leave lol)...it's far easier for everyone to have been told the same story. Keeps things simple when people talk to each other that you can't control.

As for Seth...well..if on the sub route, then seth has a lot of content...and he pretty badly abused (along with Kane)...but is told by Olivia they can submit and be on her side..or suffer and be cast aside. This is long before he goes to island 4. So on the sub path, he is very much part of the program for a while (especially if you choose to be Kiyomi's and the vipers fuck toy).

 

[Maviarab]

Save Sheet/Timeline & Full Character List:

Have now added the Save Sheet, Timeline & Character Sheets as individual zips as well for those who just want one, Character Sheet & timeline also updated with error fixes.

Updated up to v0.8 Part1 Final

Will update only when finals are released and I work through it on all my saves. Don't expect an immediate update in the days following.

Any problems, issues or errors, please feel free to let me know by reply or send me a DM. Will keep this updated moving forward.

• Save sheet I think is pretty straight forward, use as a ref sheet if nothing else but this was done primarily for my own use, so alter as you see fit. Just add points as you get them and highlight the flags you have etc. Every point, temp, variable/flag is listed on it.
• Some relations in the character list are grey by design, until 100% confirmed (exception being Nadia). If I've missed anyone etc or have something wrong, again feel free to let me know.
• Timeline is as accurate as I can currently get it (only relevent events) as some information is 'classified', so when it becomes apparent in the story or Tess let's it slip/leak, I'll update as required.

I hope at least one of the sheets is of use to a few of you, enjoy.

 

[fatki_chaddi]

Save Sheet/Timeline & Full Character List:

Updated up to v0.7B Final.

Will update only when finals are released and I work through it on all my saves. Don't expect an immediate update in the days following.

Any problems, issues or errors, please feel free to let me know by reply or send me a DM. Will keep this updated moving forward.

• Save sheet I think is pretty straight forward, use as a ref sheet if nothing else but this was done primarily for my own use, so alter as you see fit. Just add points as you get them and highlight the flags you have etc. Every point, temp, variable/flag is listed on it.
• Some relations in the character list are grey by design, until 100% confirmed (exception being Nadia). If I've missed anyone etc or have something wrong, again feel free to let me know.
• Timeline is as accurate as I can currently get it (only relevent events) as some information is 'classified', so when it becomes apparent in the story or Tess let's it slip/leak, I'll update as required.

I hope at least one of the sheets is of use to a few of you, enjoy.

Would be great if an admin/mod/uploader/super jedi person could add this post to the OP please to make it easier for people to find. Thanks.

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This is good, thanks for sharing.

 

[Cirelc]

Would be great if an admin/mod/uploader/super jedi person could add this post to the OP please to make it easier for people to find. Thanks.

Deja vu​

 

[Love Blonde & HugeTits]

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I play many Dom path, but can't see this scene in game. How can unlock this scene with Veronica?

 

[DoverDad]

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I play many Dom path, but can't see this scene in game. How can unlock this scene with Veronica?

think you have to decline to be the game host

 

[Love Blonde & HugeTits]

think you have to decline to be the game host

Thanks, i do as your suggest. But don't host the game will miss a lot of scene in part 2 of ep8 just to unlock this scene, haha

 

[Maviarab]

Deja vu​

I did this also heh, thanks though Cirelc. (Seems to have been added now!)

This is good, thanks for sharing.

You're very welcome.

Thanks, i do as your suggest. But don't host the game will miss a lot of scene in part 2 of ep8 just to unlock this scene, haha

Perhaps yes, but I would recommend everyone to have at least one 'no game show host' save...Tess being Tess, she would not have given the option to decline if there was not another way to progress on the dom path. Perhaps there will be more interaction with Pod W2 in some form? Or like starting at K5 (or K4 on the SubK7 path) you'll end up stuck at K8/9 or something at the end of 8? (remember, rank at the end of the show can be permanent). Who knows...but will be interesting to see what Kane gets up to if he is not part of the show. I do suspect however that even if we decline, there may be an option to still join at some point (forced or otherwise).

 

[Stan5851]

I did this also heh, thanks though Cirelc. (Seems to have been added now!)


You're very welcome.


Perhaps yes, but I would recommend everyone to have at least one 'no game show host' save...Tess being Tess, she would not have given the option to decline if there was not another way to progress on the dom path. Perhaps there will be more interaction with Pod W2 in some form? Or like starting at K5 (or K4 on the SubK7 path) you'll end up stuck at K8/9 or something at the end of 8? (remember, rank at the end of the show can be permanent). Who knows...but will be interesting to see what Kane gets up to if he is not part of the show. I do suspect however that even if we decline, there may be an option to still join at some point (forced or otherwise).

Yeah, that's right. But in any case, a "pure paladin" GoodKaneDom (especially one who refused to co-host the show) definitely has a chance of success.

I want to state this as accurately as possible. A "good" game show host CAN succeed all the way up the ranks in the Karlsson world (Z rank) and with Olivia, but hosting the show may have another impact that is not related to those two specific things. As a clue, I would note who Kane meets in this update if he DOESN'T agree to help on the game show.

Thinking about it again, I would venture to guess that we are talking about pre-selection of future allies (factions). If GoodKaneDom (not "pure paladin") agrees to help host the show, he will have the prospect of an alliance with several factions (DeKocks, VIP, New Paris, possibly mixed factions of different people in Karlsson's group/DeKocks/VIP/etc).

If GoodKaneDom ("pure paladin") refuses to run the show, he is left with few options, and the first and most obvious is the possibility of making an alliance with the "Revolutionary faction" (Otto, Junko and others), that is, continuing down the Revolution path. At the same time, a more "peaceful" (as far as that word is appropriate in this crazy world) path should also be available, with the extremely kind Kane and Olivia gaining power over the Company.

But Kane and Olivia are still not Neo and Trinity, and they won't yet be able to smash enemies' faces in with their feet while hanging beautifully in the air in slo-mo mode, hehe...And they still need powerful allies who share their common moral code..And of such people, we have only Elena and her unique redemptive arc..But Elena alone may not be enough. All in all, things promise to be very interesting, no matter which path we choose).

 

[Maviarab]

But Kane and Olivia are still not Neo and Trinity, and they won't yet be able to smash enemies' faces in with their feet while hanging beautifully in the air in slo-mo mode

Wait...whut? I've been lied to!

(also...Dominique can gain good/evil points don't forget...not Just Elena and Veronica gain good/morality points too, which I think will definitely be important for a GoodPalaKane to take over with Olivia).

 

[Sharpshooter890]

I kinda hope Good Olivia and Kane will crash and burn in the end, because nobody in the 'ruling class' wants to change the status quo. You know, just like real life. My Kane is not so stupid and knows what is good in life:

 

[depeche mode]

except dom mc still is the same whinny beta

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

im trying to aim for an evil dom kane and a good sub olivia but she wont be a sub

 

[Maviarab]

im trying to aim for an evil dom kane and a good sub olivia but she wont be a sub

What do you mean she won't be a sub? Do you mean towards Kane? if so, sure that will happen at some point.

 

[Don Sucio]

im trying to aim for an evil dom kane and a good sub olivia but she wont be a sub

What do you mean she won't be a sub? Do you mean towards Kane? if so, sure that will happen at some point.

I´m trying that too in one of my saves, hoping one time Kane could dominate Olivia, like being very good and kind with Olivia and choosing the most evil answers with Kane. I don´t know if Tess is going to allow us to dominate Olivia but it would be a cool final .
It isn´t my favorite final but it could be good.

 

[Maviarab]

My third save is GoodDomKane with GoodSubOlivia hehe....I imagine it will be possible, surely Tess knows Dom players would want a Sub Olivia romance. In fact, my first 5 saves are all KaneVia variations lol.

 

[Don Sucio]

My third save is FoodDomKane with GoodSubOlivia hehe....I imagine it will be possible, surely Tess knows Dom players would want a Sub Olivia romance. In fact, my first 5 saves are all KaneVia variations lol.

It´s my third save too hahaha, but being EvilDomKane and GoodSubOlivia

 

[Maviarab]

It´s my third save too hahaha, but being EvilDomKane and GoodSubOlivia

I have a EvilDomKane and GoodSubOlivia save also...but not full Evil Kane...more a mixed. My only full true EvilKane is with an EvilOlivia heh.

(Also...joined the 500 post club with Stan5851 and MilesEdgeworth )