VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2A Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

Let me say it again: ELENA IS A CHEATING BITCH THAT HAS BEEN LEAKING INFORMATION TO OLIVIA, AGAINST COMPANY ORDERS, AND TELLING HER TO LIE ABOUT IT. See Episode 5 and 7. ... Can you tell that I loathe the witch?

Show me proof that Olivia had information prior to her meeting Elena on the pier, or that she could not have learned from Elena, and that a Karlsson Group outsider could not have researched or deduced prior to her "abduction", and that she has not learned simply by being in the Karlsson Group.

Show me a screenshot that she knows about the Gambit before Ep. 8.

Flashback scene at the helicopter is all the proof you need. I don't even need to send screenshots (though I did add the zoo screenshots for you in my earlier post, because I'm nice like that and keep my word..oh..and that was day 6 btw...jus' sayin'). You don't want to to see it...*shrugs*

However, after your other utterly delusionsal 168 point post...where once again you're just making up shit out of thin air to rattle around inside your head...I'm done with talking to you.

 

[DoverDad]

0.8 BetaPart I Release/Short Update (2/11/2024)

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Hi everyone!
I apologize for taking until now to release a Beta Version! I got extremely slammed with my design work as I had to put some stuff off to get out the Test Version, and I'm going to actually take off about 1.5 days this week to work on the Final to get it out before I leave for my trip.
I could not quite finish the sub scene I was working on and wanted to get this version out before the weekend is up, so I am releasing some links now. I did not realize the Super Bowl was also today, and I've got to help out with some things for friends, etc. (you probably can tell I don't really follow American football super hard, heh) I have added some animations and done a lot of corrections that were needed from the Test Version. A few flags were also missing acknowledging some prior choices, so spent the most time trying to make sure all flags work ok. I will be adding everything else this week for the Final Version. If you have already played the Test Version, you can probably wait until the Final as I still have to tweak some points from a few choices and you want to save from that Final Version.
Please remember to read over the earlier post about loading saves, or you can go on Discord and read the save tutorial channel as well. I have provided screens to try and help.
I will comment more on the poll when I release Final, I want to really focus on getting that done right now. But it was very appreciated because I got so many comments and feedback both publicly and privately! Thank you so much!
I am providing two links for PC and one for Mac. Please let me know if there are any problems or issues with anything. The main thing I always worry about is saves, so please remember what I have posted here and on Discord about saves.
Android is not supported formally until I get a third party person that helps with the Final Version only. (it's a waste of time for that person to correct errors with multiple new versions as it's more difficult to do that versus PC/Mac where I can edit quickly any changes.)

 

[Maviarab]

And this is why I wait for final heheeh.

Thanks for posting Dover.

 

[YuNobi1]

Flashback scene at the helicopter is all the proof you need. I don't even need to send screenshots (though I did add the zoo screenshots for you in my earlier post, because I'm nice like that and keep my word..oh..and that was day 6 btw...jus' sayin'). You don't want to to see it...*shrugs*

However, after your other utterly delusionsal 168 point post...where once again you're just making up shit out of thin air to rattle around inside your head...I'm done with talking to you.

Whenever reviewing, considering, or analyzing a theory, one must always look at the evidence, and see if they support one or all of the plausible theories. If one theory exclusively holds true against all evidence and challenges, then it is definitively true, but if a theory's evidence is shared with its contrary, or there remain contradictory issues with the theory, then it must remain a theory, alongside all other plausible theories. Therefore, I have gathered all the scenes pertinent to the Agent Olivia and Intelligent Olivia theories.

Agent Olivia = The Olivia that knows EVERYTHING before Alexander's death, and is feigning shock and ignorance.
Intelligent Olivia = The Olivia whom Callista has raised and trained for the upcoming Gambit, but from whom Callista has hidden most of the truth, likely telling Olivia that KG wants "the best and brightest" in the world on their executive staff, and since Olivia matches that, they will come for her, and she has to either excel, or "die". This Olivia applies her super-intellect, analysis, and deductive reasoning to use any gained knowledge to discover strategies, plots, motivations, and secrets.

To save space (and time) rather than screenshots, I have copied the lines from the crucial scenes.

Day 4: The Pier

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By Day 6, Agent Olivia has known about her father for years, while Intelligent Olivia has known for 2 days. They are also both adament about making sure that only Elena [and Cassandra] know that Olivia knows she's a Karlsson, either because of her own agenda (Agent), or under Elena's instructions (Intelligent). At the zoo, per your screenshot, Olivia apparently believes that the security system is programmed to her true last name: Karlsson. She muses (in the screenshot) whether Veronica invokes the "first names only" rule to hide "Olivia Karlsson" just from Kane, or from Olivia as well, and thus wonders if Veronica still doesn't know that Olivia knows her true last name. Neither Agent Olivia nor Intelligent Olivia wish to be discovered to already know that she is a Karlsson, so both would have this thought process.

Helicopter Flashback

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Hike Flashback:
Kane states that he asked Callista about "Dad", but she denied him. He does not infer/suggest Olivia try, but Agent Olivia, who knows that "Dad" is not her father, needlessly and unprompted says that if Callista won't tell Master, then there is no hope for her or Seth to ask about "Dad". She also asks Kane why he thinks Callista has been so secretive of her past, when Agent Olivia knows why, and also knows that Kane's ignorance is [apparently] paramount to the plan. Olivia's other comments in this scene also support both an Agent Olivia who has had recent training with Alexander, and an Intelligent Olivia who has just been informed that her future is with KG, in which she will have to perform in order to survive, or "die"... a very fatalist destiny that would turn anyone somber.

End of Day 6: The Mother

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[depeche mode]

The story of the a Game is really stupid. Best not think about it

 

[BurgRoyce]

Whenever reviewing, considering, or analyzing a theory, one must always look at the evidence, and see if they support one or all of the plausible theories. If one theory exclusively holds true against all evidence and challenges, then it is definitively true, but if a theory's evidence is shared with its contrary, or there remain contradictory issues with the theory, then it must remain a theory, alongside all other plausible theories. Therefore, I have gathered all the scenes pertinent to the Agent Olivia and Intelligent Olivia theories.

Agent Olivia = The Olivia that knows EVERYTHING before Alexander's death, and is feigning shock and ignorance.
Intelligent Olivia = The Olivia whom Callista has raised and trained for the upcoming Gambit, but from whom Callista has hidden most of the truth, likely telling Olivia that KG wants "the best and brightest" in the world on their executive staff, and since Olivia matches that, they will come for her, and she has to either excel, or "die". This Olivia applies her super-intellect, analysis, and deductive reasoning to use any gained knowledge to discover strategies, plots, motivations, and secrets.

To save space (and time) rather than screenshots, I have copied the lines from the crucial scenes.

Day 4: The Pier

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By Day 6, Agent Olivia has known about her father for years, while Intelligent Olivia has known for 2 days. They are also both adament about making sure that only Elena [and Cassandra] know that Olivia knows she's a Karlsson, either because of her own agenda (Agent), or under Elena's instructions (Intelligent). At the zoo, per your screenshot, Olivia apparently believes that the security system is programmed to her true last name: Karlsson. She muses (in the screenshot) whether Veronica invokes the "first names only" rule to hide "Olivia Karlsson" just from Kane, or from Olivia as well, and thus wonders if Veronica still doesn't know that Olivia knows her true last name. Neither Agent Olivia nor Intelligent Olivia wish to be discovered to already know that she is a Karlsson, so both would have this thought process.

Helicopter Flashback

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Hike Flashback:
Kane states that he asked Callista about "Dad", but she denied him. He does not infer/suggest Olivia try, but Agent Olivia, who knows that "Dad" is not her father, needlessly and unprompted says that if Callista won't tell Master, then there is no hope for her or Seth to ask about "Dad". She also asks Kane why he thinks Callista has been so secretive of her past, when Agent Olivia knows why, and also knows that Kane's ignorance is [apparently] paramount to the plan. Olivia's other comments in this scene also support both an Agent Olivia who has had recent training with Alexander, and an Intelligent Olivia who has just been informed that her future is with KG, in which she will have to perform in order to survive, or "die"... a very fatalist destiny that would turn anyone somber.

End of Day 6: The Mother

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Hmmm... I have to say that now you are pointing very interesting theories... Olivia's surprised internal thoughts always annoyed me a lot. I didn't believe for a second that she's acting even to herself. That made no sense at all...
I made the assumption that Tess used the "unreliable narrator" card to save the surprise until we are revealed the truth at the helicopter scene.
But now you've made me doubt about everything I thought about her

 

[Don Sucio]

0.8 BetaPart I Release/Short Update (2/11/2024)

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Hi everyone!
I apologize for taking until now to release a Beta Version! I got extremely slammed with my design work as I had to put some stuff off to get out the Test Version, and I'm going to actually take off about 1.5 days this week to work on the Final to get it out before I leave for my trip.
I could not quite finish the sub scene I was working on and wanted to get this version out before the weekend is up, so I am releasing some links now. I did not realize the Super Bowl was also today, and I've got to help out with some things for friends, etc. (you probably can tell I don't really follow American football super hard, heh) I have added some animations and done a lot of corrections that were needed from the Test Version. A few flags were also missing acknowledging some prior choices, so spent the most time trying to make sure all flags work ok. I will be adding everything else this week for the Final Version. If you have already played the Test Version, you can probably wait until the Final as I still have to tweak some points from a few choices and you want to save from that Final Version.
Please remember to read over the earlier post about loading saves, or you can go on Discord and read the save tutorial channel as well. I have provided screens to try and help.
I will comment more on the poll when I release Final, I want to really focus on getting that done right now. But it was very appreciated because I got so many comments and feedback both publicly and privately! Thank you so much!
I am providing two links for PC and one for Mac. Please let me know if there are any problems or issues with anything. The main thing I always worry about is saves, so please remember what I have posted here and on Discord about saves.
Android is not supported formally until I get a third party person that helps with the Final Version only. (it's a waste of time for that person to correct errors with multiple new versions as it's more difficult to do that versus PC/Mac where I can edit quickly any changes.)

So if my english is not fucking with me we should have the final version before the 18 right?

 

[PickerLewd]

You are correct, Mr. Dirty. It appears to be the week for making final adjustments .

 

[YuNobi1]

Hmmm... I have to say that now you are pointing very interesting theories... Olivia's surprised internal thoughts always annoyed me a lot. I didn't believe for a second that she's acting even for herself. That made no sense at all...
I made the assumption that Tess used the "unreliable narrator" card to save the surprise until we are revealed the truth at the helicopter scene.
But now you've made me doubt about everything I thought about her

I could see unreliable narrator if all of her reactions were strictly external, and/or all her internal thoughts were benign/generic (i.e. "wow, this is a really impressive room" meaning she is impressed by the room, but neither confirming nor denying that she has ever seen something equally impressive/extravagant before). But yeah, we either have the problem that her internal shocks and surprise are her lying to herself, she's schizophrenic, or the internal reactions are genuine.

 

[Maviarab]

Wow...only one sub route left which I saved untill last, on SS's recommendation (evil Olivia K2). I'm just. Pheewww....heh, not really sure what to say in all honesty. Damn.

I will start with, given who Callista is...and Cole apparently was/is...there is no way any of the sub paths are anywhere close to cannon. They just can't fit the overall narrative of the story. I'll say it again, it's a very clever story 'dressed up' as a femdom game....but it really isn't in reality.

Man...even with -4 evil and almost 30 good, Olivia is still...harsh! K3/4 Kane..is...well...what a pathetic waste of space. I'm actually almost dreading my EvilOlivia/K2 run (going to get finished off tonight).

However, all that being said...there is a lot more context...and a few little scenes that would happen regardless of path, (you just don't see them on the Dom path) you only see them on the sub routes, such as Olivia and Elena going off to talk at the party etc...so very useful for my timeline (now finished up to ep.7). So still glad I went through them, though pretty much skipped most scenes except the ones with Kane and Olivia, for obvious reasons, too much context to miss out on otherwise.

It's impressive...some very good scenes also (not femdom)...such as the massage scene with Raven, Mia and Delilah. Very disappointed with Junko though, or well, not her herself I suppose heh...total 180 of her character in the sub routes...very surprising.

On a final note, also finally done the SubK5+ route. Little disappointed in that actually. I'm not sure if it's truly a fully coded path or what Tess intends to do with it, but basically (for those who don't know)...it's a sub run until first evaluation by Olivia at her house...then pretty much becomes a joint Dom/SecretSub run till the end of 7. Wasn't expecting that....

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Wow...only one sub rote left which I saved till last, on SS's recommendation (evil Olivia K2). I'm just. Pheewww....heh, not really sure what to say in all honesty. Damn.

I will start with, given who Callista is...and Cole apparently was/is...there is no way any of the sub paths are anywhere close to cannon. They just can't fit the overall narrative of the story. I'll say it again, it's a very clever story 'dressed up' as a femdom game....but it really isn't in reality.

Man...even with -4 evil and almost 30 good, Olivia is still...harsh! K3/4 Kane..is...well...what a pathetic waste of space. I'm actually almost dreading my EvilOlivia/K2 run (going to get finished off tonight).

However, all that being said...there is a lot more context...and a few little scenes that would happen regardless of path, (you just don't see them on the Dom path) you only see them on the sub routes, such as Olivia and Elena going off to talk at the party etc...so very useful for my timeline (now finished up to ep.7). So still glad I went through them, though pretty much skipped most scenes except the ones with Kane and Olivia, for obvious reasons, too much context to miss out on otherwise.

It's impressive...some very good scenes also (not femdom)...such as the massage scene with Raven, Mia and Delilah. Very disappointed with Junko though, or well, not her herself I suppose heh...total 180 of her character in the sub routes...very surprising.

On a final note, also finally done the SubK5+ route. Little disappointed in that actually. I'm not sure if it's truly a fully coded path or what Tess intends to do with it, but basically (for those who don't know)...it's a sub run until first evaluation by Olivia at her house...then pretty much becomes a joint Dom/SecretSub run till the end of 7. Wasn't expecting that....

Happy to help! Enjoy the ride, so to speak. Playing these routes is like watching a big car crash, you just can't look away even though it's a terrible tragedy. K1 evil Olivia is awesome in that depraved sort of way as well. K1Sub Kane is just so pathetic, worse than Zachy-boy. And as Evil Olivia I just can't pass an opportunity to humiliate Jake as much as I can (if you know, you know).

As for the 'canon' path, I think it would be Good Olivia with Good/Neutral Kane that started with a Veronica sponsorship and got her department 1st. From there it could branch in a couple of directions, but this base suits the narrative the best I think.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Yeah tbh I think Tess should just get rid of the sub path options, not really canon… need more dom heavy kane

 

[Maviarab]

Happy to help! Enjoy the ride, so to speak. Playing these routes is like watching a big car crash, you just can't look away even though it's a terrible tragedy. K1 evil Olivia is awesome in that depraved sort of way as well. K1Sub Kane is just so pathetic, worse than Zachy-boy. And as Evil Olivia I just can't pass an opportunity to humiliate Jake as much as I can (if you know, you know).

Hahaha...yes,...train wreck indeed. Juts about to do the k2 run now (I'll not bother with K1, but the K2 run Olivia will go full Luna from LFFG and go demoness hahaha.

Jake...yeah well..he deserves everything he gets, even on the dom path pmsl.

As for the 'canon' path, I think it would be Good Olivia with Good/Neutral Kane that started with a Veronica sponsorship and got her department 1st. From there it could branch in a couple of directions, but this base suits the narrative the best I think.

Yeah this. Aside from the spoiler in the walkthrough regarding Sparks, even on the sub path Olivia mentions often how much Kane was there for her etc. So sub paths, and evil paths...are there for flavour really as neither match what is realistically where the story is really started/heading. Both sub and evil paths are so far removed from what we know of the characters before they came to the island. Both paths are really also a complete 180 of everything we are told about them (flashbacks and dialogues) aren't they. Fun though...I'm not looking forward to more suubby goodness in the future though I'll admit...but will persever with them for the greater good...maybe with Svetlana on my lap, Amy massaging my calfs and Taylor rubbing my shoulders while whispering sweet nothings into my ear

However, at least now I know what happens so I'm not lost in the thread and know what people are talking about heh. Damn I need coffee...lots of it...wil alcohol in it!

And eye bleach...

 

[PickerLewd]

I played K4 path until the entrance of the labyrinth and I would rather swim away from the beach and drown than go into the maze . I can't even imagine what you found under K4.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Can’t wait to see more Delilah in the final version! Completely dominating Kane and Zesty Zach

 

[Silver_Crow117]

I played K4 path until the entrance of the labyrinth and I would rather swim away from the beach and drown than go into the maze . I can't even imagine what you found under K4.

Can’t even imagine k4 and above!

 

[Maviarab]

Can’t wait to see more Delilah in the final version! Completely dominating Kane and Zesty Zach

Yeah...I quite like her...but she a lying bitch lmao.

Ohhh Kaney babes....enough K5 fun for you...just a taster of what you'll never get with ma girls...muhahahahaaa.....

Woah woah woah...hold on Deli babe...I've not even had a 4-some as a K9 yet lmao...can only hope Raven and Mia invite you over sweet cheeks for fun during Ep8 She lies...all lies...poor SubbyBoyKane lmao

And stop giving me angry faces Crow rofl...

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Wow...only one sub route left which I saved untill last, on SS's recommendation (evil Olivia K2). I'm just. Pheewww....heh, not really sure what to say in all honesty. Damn.

I will start with, given who Callista is...and Cole apparently was/is...there is no way any of the sub paths are anywhere close to cannon. They just can't fit the overall narrative of the story. I'll say it again, it's a very clever story 'dressed up' as a femdom game....but it really isn't in reality.

Man...even with -4 evil and almost 30 good, Olivia is still...harsh! K3/4 Kane..is...well...what a pathetic waste of space. I'm actually almost dreading my EvilOlivia/K2 run (going to get finished off tonight).

However, all that being said...there is a lot more context...and a few little scenes that would happen regardless of path, (you just don't see them on the Dom path) you only see them on the sub routes, such as Olivia and Elena going off to talk at the party etc...so very useful for my timeline (now finished up to ep.7). So still glad I went through them, though pretty much skipped most scenes except the ones with Kane and Olivia, for obvious reasons, too much context to miss out on otherwise.

It's impressive...some very good scenes also (not femdom)...such as the massage scene with Raven, Mia and Delilah. Very disappointed with Junko though, or well, not her herself I suppose heh...total 180 of her character in the sub routes...very surprising.

On a final note, also finally done the SubK5+ route. Little disappointed in that actually. I'm not sure if it's truly a fully coded path or what Tess intends to do with it, but basically (for those who don't know)...it's a sub run until first evaluation by Olivia at her house...then pretty much becomes a joint Dom/SecretSub run till the end of 7. Wasn't expecting that....

Really disappointed in your take, but it’s kinda hard when you already have a preconceived notion of what paths you necessarily want, but hey, that’s the freedom of choices, which in turn, is what KG is! The Narrative itself entirely depends on it (there are some points in the story which might correlate with each playstyle), so it might be your objectively made take on what’s canon or what not, but for me personally it’s the opposite. Place your self in Kanes shoes, you might be all dominant and be on the path of dom, but in another reality he’s a sub hahaha I have other objections but I’m kinda busy atm but note - I’m not trying to be disrespectful or anything I’m just stating my POV (just saying cuz I don’t want to get tombstone piledrived by someone thinking that I am LOL)

Yeah...I quite like her...but she a lying bitch lmao.

Ohhh Kaney babes....enough K5 fun for you...just a taster of what you'll never get with ma girls...muhahahahaaa.....

Woah woah woah...hold on Deli babe...I've not even had a 4-some as a K9 yet lmao...can only hope Raven and Mia invite you over sweet cheeks for fun during Ep8 She lies...all lies...poor SubbyBoyKane lmao

And stop giving me angry faces Crow rofl...

I personally can’t wait for Delilah’s route for sub Kane, for obvious reasons I’ve stated to you hahaha I’m doing those emojis because there red… just like my red headed queens, Veronica and Delilah

 

[Sharpshooter890]

I’m doing those emojis because there red… just like my red headed queens, Veronica and Delilah

Whoa whoa whoa, hold your horses, mate. Angelica is the redhead queen, and it's not even a debate, it's a fact of life. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Whoa whoa whoa, hold your horses, mate. Angelica is the redhead queen, and it's not even a debate, it's a fact of life. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

Sorry friend you won’t win on this hill!! Delilah and Veronica ALL THE WAY by the way, Delilah originally was suppose to be a character that was going to die, but because of Miss Anais, she now has her own route (for sub and Dom Kane) she later said something about characters switching factions and I think she said Delilah might be one depe on ur choices!… heh