Mar 8, 2024
257
304
given that Callista is an extremely virtuous woman and Elena's best friend, it's not surprising that she was the one who looked after the newborn Olivia while Elena was out of her mind.
When you say out of her mind are you talking about mentally out of her mind or so blinded by power she couldn't think straight
 
Mar 7, 2024
205
706
The fucking frog that gets tormented during the episode epilogues kills me :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Maybe you'd like to replace him hmmm?

When you say out of her mind are you talking about mentally out of her mind or so blinded by power she couldn't think straight
Out of control with lust, power and general evil craziness. Remember, mother was an evil bitch. Of course, I have a lot of catching up to do but I'm sure with her tutelage I will surpass her.

Sniff...sniff...ahhhhh new blood to play with! Welcome, welcome Muhhaahahaa hahahahaaaaaaa

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
 

Stan5851

Engaged Member
Oct 18, 2019
3,500
7,363
When you say out of her mind are you talking about mentally out of her mind or so blinded by power she couldn't think straight
English is not my native language, so there may be some translation difficulties, but I didn't mean that Elena went crazy...She was a bit out of her mind (as I understood it from their dialog). I.e. maybe (probably) she was under a lot of stress (or something like that) after Alexander accused her and the baby Olivia of all deadly sins and broke off the relationship with her...
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sharpshooter890

Maviarab

Dark Lord of the Coffee
Donor
Jul 12, 2020
11,037
26,306
When you say out of her mind are you talking about mentally out of her mind or so blinded by power she couldn't think straight
English is not my native language, so there may be some translation difficulties, but I didn't mean that Elena went crazy...She was a bit out of her mind (as I understood it from their dialog). I.e. maybe (probably) she was under a lot of stress (or something like that) after Alexander accused her and the baby Olivia of all deadly sins and broke off the relationship with her...
Drunk on power, sadism and overall debauchery. Power corrupts.....absolute power corrupts absolutely.
 
Mar 8, 2024
257
304
English is not my native language, so there may be some translation difficulties, but I didn't mean that Elena went crazy...She was a bit out of her mind (as I understood it from their dialog). I.e. maybe (probably) she was under a lot of stress (or something like that) after Alexander accused her and the baby Olivia of all deadly sins and broke off the relationship with her...
English is such a weird language lol saying somebody is out of their mind could mean many things
 
  • Like
Reactions: Stan5851

Stan5851

Engaged Member
Oct 18, 2019
3,500
7,363
Drunk on power, sadism and overall debauchery. Power corrupts.....absolute power corrupts absolutely.
That's correct. And it is quite possible that Elena's then state (after the birth of Olivia) was a combination of what you describe and the even greater stress that Elena experienced after Alexander's accusations against herself and their baby.
 
  • Heart
Reactions: Maviarab

YuNobi1

Member
Aug 9, 2021
360
363
One theory... :D

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Remember the birth timing of Olivia and Veronica, and Olivia's conception timing lines up with the Breakup, so Veronica's conception also must have been around that time, meaning Alexander was cheating with Yvette as well. If he was cheating with both women, but always transfers blame to somebody else, why would he blame just one and not both women? So "her" is likely Yvette. If so, it's interesting that both Yvette and Callista refuse to refer to each other by name (Ep. 5 and Ep. 8 respectively), and considering Yvette's hostile opinion of Callista, it appears there's bad blood between them... yet they do meet once in the park when Kane is very young (Ep. 4 flashback).
 
Mar 11, 2023
400
942
English is not my native language, so there may be some translation difficulties, but I didn't mean that Elena went crazy...She was a bit out of her mind (as I understood it from their dialog). I.e. maybe (probably) she was under a lot of stress (or something like that) after Alexander accused her and the baby Olivia of all deadly sins and broke off the relationship with her...
Elena even admits she was out of control in those years, a lot more sadistic and bloodthirsty (so probably close to Juliette). Not a good role model for a child. Although our Dark Quean Olivia turned out just like her even with Callista's meddling, which is just further proof of Callista being incompetent.:LOL:

English is such a weird language lol saying somebody is out of their mind could mean many things
Russian is even worse in that sense, for example, an answer to a simple question of "Would you like an ice-cream?" is "Yes no, maybe".
 
Mar 7, 2024
205
706
so Veronica's conception also must have been around that time,
Old news.
If he was cheating with both women, but always transfers blame to somebody else, why would he blame just one and not both women?
Because Callista never caught him balls deep inside Yvette.
yet they do meet once in the park when Kane is very young (Ep. 4 flashback).
Yes when Veronica was approximately 10 years old, Kane being elementary school age (confirmed by Tess btw, don't bother arguing this).

Why they met could have been for numerous reasons (and the Kane/Veronica meeting could have been completely by chance and unintended as a by-product of just being dragged along), the actual meeting was Callista/Yvette, so at least at that point in time, there was no bad blood, or if there was, not enough to not be able to communicate and deal with something. However, this was years later after the fact, Maybe Callista put it behind her for the sake of discussing whatever it was that needed to be discussed.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Maviarab

Silver_Crow117

Well-Known Member
Oct 12, 2021
1,289
1,442
Little help for the recent pictures for the sub side…. It seems that In the recent preview, Elena (same nails and hair) is the one getting service along with Erica being next to her … looks like if you join Olivia’s faction, Elena comes back and “rewards” Kane…. If you don’t join Olivia’s faction, she probably won’t show up and it’ll just be Erica… (Same background with the glossy floor and grey panel on the floor watch along with the pool)
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
 

Maviarab

Dark Lord of the Coffee
Donor
Jul 12, 2020
11,037
26,306
Little help for the recent pictures for the sub side…. It seems that In the recent preview, Elena (same nails and hair) is the one getting service along with Erica being next to her … looks like if you join Olivia’s faction, Elena comes back and “rewards” Kane…. If you don’t join Olivia’s faction, she probably won’t show up and it’ll just be Erica… (Same background with the glossy floor and grey panel on the floor watch along with the pool)
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
How are you coming to that conclusion? Something on Patreon not on Discord?

Also, aren't the last 2 pictures from Ep8?

That aside...any Erica is good content ;)
 

Silver_Crow117

Well-Known Member
Oct 12, 2021
1,289
1,442
How are you coming to that conclusion? Something on Patreon not on Discord?

Also, aren't the last 2 pictures from Ep8?

That aside...any Erica is good content ;)
The First photo is from the very recent corporate Update, the last 2 are from part 1, where I’m just providing evidence that the two recently revealed photos for sub Kane are taking place in that pool/crystal room… the Character getting serviced is Elena because look at the nails and the hair… it’s that same as Elena… and Erika is the one next to her because she’s supposed to pick up Kane to go back into the gameshow…. And the boots :)
 

MilesEdgeworth

Engaged Member
Nov 8, 2021
2,145
2,761
Which for me would be the far more important question....why would they meet 8 years after Callista left?
They were looking for Callista. I forget the conversation but Veronica tells somebody how they found Callista but Alexander told them to leave her alone. If I had to guess he was doing that whole "find her nobody leaves me! thing while secretly being cool with it. Either that or trying to cover up Olivia's actual location which makes it lucky that she wasn't at the park at the moment they met.
 

YuNobi1

Member
Aug 9, 2021
360
363
Old news.

Because Callista never caught him balls deep inside Yvette.

Yes when Veronica was approximately 10 years old, Kane being elementary school age (confirmed by Tess btw, don't bother arguing this).

Why they met could have been for numerous reasons (and the Kane/Veronica meeting could have been completely by chance and unintended as a by-product of just being dragged along), the actual meeting was Callista/Yvette, so at least at that point in time, there was no bad blood, or if there was, not enough to not be able to communicate and deal with something. However, this was years later after the fact, Maybe Callista put it behind her for the sake of discussing whatever it was that needed to be discussed.
You're confusing two events as one:
Park 1: Ep. 3 flashback. Callista has cut Kane's playground time short because they got to get home in time for Olivia's recital. In such a hurry, Callista almost leaves him behind, then apologizes for getting too far ahead of him. Kane then asks why Callista was talking to a woman and girl "with fiery hair", whose name he apparently does not know.

Park 2: Ep 6 Park flashback. 10yo Veronica is bullied by other kids in the park and hides by a large statue alone. The flashback begins with Kane upset with, and actively avoiding, his mother because of her strictness and making him do so much extra study work (2 assignments from school + 5 from Callista). In his anger-infused wondering he happens upon the distraught Veronica. While he himself is not interested in the play area at the moment, he asks the the lonely girl while she isn't playing there herself, which she says that was because of the other kids bullied her. Having not been at the play area, and therefore not seen the event, Kane incorrectly guesses the single bully's identity, and Veronica corrects him that nearly all kids were bullying her. In a rare display of the Cole-Callista intelligence, Kane deduces that this mystery girl is a Cape Town native from her wristwatch. Veronica then gives her name as "Stacy", and Yvette pages her.

Kane's attitude toward Callista in each flashback is very different, and his speech patterns also different. He says "playground" in Ep. 3 but "play area" in Ep. 6, signifing either a different place or a different time (i.e. he's changed his vocabulary). In the first flashback, he doesn't know "Stacy's" name, and in the second flashback, he was not spending any time in the playground/play area, and it doesn't seem like he sees Yvette.

As for the first flashback where the meeting took place, there are 3 possible scenarios on how this could have happened. 1) Yvette and Callista were close, and they met up to catch up, and Yvette wanted to know why Callista left. 2) they didn't choose to meet, Yvette was just a messenger from Alexander, and he certainly couldn't have risked letting Elena possibly see Olivia, so Yvette was the only option. 3) The meeting was purely by chance.
20 years is a long time to develop a blood feud, so maybe Yvette's hatred for Callista started at the Breakup, or the Leaving, or after years of Alexander blaming her for not measuring up to Callista, OR perhaps it's after the second flashback when Veronica, at some point, reached out to Callista, thus she became more Veronica's mother than Yvette could ever hope to be, due to Callista's mind being the only one Veronica could respect and admire (Ep. 5 ninja meeting). Either way, there's evidence of it in the present, and just like the death of Good Alexander, or D/J/A/A's births, we don't have enough information to pinpoint exactly where in the timeline these events took place.
 

Maviarab

Dark Lord of the Coffee
Donor
Jul 12, 2020
11,037
26,306
The First photo is from the very recent corporate Update
Yes that I know...I posted it here earlier lol.

The rest...hmm...could be, could be.

They were looking for Callista. I forget the conversation but Veronica tells somebody how they found Callista but Alexander told them to leave her alone. If I had to guess he was doing that whole "find her nobody leaves me! thing while secretly being cool with it. Either that or trying to cover up Olivia's actual location which makes it lucky that she wasn't at the park at the moment they met.
Veronica tells Olivia that she suspected Alexander was helping to hide them. Nothing more is said about leaving her alone. Also, if Yvette was 'looking for Callista', I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be dragging Veronica with her on possible wild goose chases.

That was a specific 'meeting' for me...
 
  • Like
Reactions: Stan5851

MilesEdgeworth

Engaged Member
Nov 8, 2021
2,145
2,761
Yes that I know...I posted it here earlier lol.

The rest...hmm...could be, could be.


Veronica tells Olivia that she suspected Alexander was helping to hide them. Nothing more is said about leaving her alone. Also, if Yvette was 'looking for Callista', I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be dragging Veronica with her on possible wild goose chases.

That was a specific 'meeting' for me...
You remember the chapter that conversation was, I need to analyze it.
 
4.40 star(s) 156 Votes