VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2A Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Ale82]

Unfortunately no, there will not be a pure revenge path because it is not designed that way.

If you play the 'Dom' path from K5 onwards, you can probably end up destroying almost all of them, but it doesn't feel like pure revenge because in that path, even though you're still a slave, they treat you pretty well from my point of view, it's like Kane being forced to be in the facility but living like a prince from K7 onwards, even with some luxury.

From K4 and down there could be some revenge, but the game only lets you resist at the beginning until chapter 3, I think I remember, then Kane accepts almost everything as a true sub without complaining, so he gets such a big brain wash that there will be no such revenge from K4 and down (sub path).

I don't know what goes on in the secret sub path, but I don't think there's a path where they treat you badly but let you 'resist' without humiliating you and without joining them until the opportunity of revenge presents itself .

Yeah it's like you said. If you start at K5 or rise in your first try, you don't get almost any bad treatment so revenge doesn't make sense. Only maybe justice for all the crap they do to other people, but not you.
But I do have a save with 9 dom points and only 1 sub and I'm still at K4 being treated like crap. If you can then start to rise up, would be nice to get the option to get some payback.

 

[Maviarab]

Yeah it's like you said. If you start at K5 or rise in your first try, you don't get almost any bad treatment so revenge doesn't make sense. Only maybe justice for all the crap they do to other people, but not you.
But I do have a save with 9 dom points and only 1 sub and I'm still at K4 being treated like crap. If you can then start to rise up, would be nice to get the option to get some payback.

Dom and sub points are not particularly mutually exclusive of the actual Dom and/or sub paths. One can be either on both branches and this is taken into account on the Dom path specifically regarding your assistant and pod trainer.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Tess got so many nasty suggestions, she killed off a whole path, I doubt that she'd have another path which would encourage people to make similar suggestions

 

[Stan5851]

....and no.

I think we need to know a little more about Callista's past to be able to say that with certainty. If we assume that Callista had no other male partners except her husband Cole and Alexander Karlsson, then Seth could be Alexander's son, whom he abandoned, thinking that a sick child could not be his heir and so he gave him to the runaway Callista to raise...or Seth could have another father (with genetic problems manifested in Seth) and another mother (not Callista). But in this case, it must be someone very important to Callista herself, so that she (despite her kindness) took Seth for upbringing...BTW, we again know nothing about whether Callista raised Seth and if so, how and when..

But I wouldn't rule out that Seth could be the son of Alexander Karlsson and someone else...If that someone else is not Callista, then it's probably Yvette. As we know, one of Yvette's daughters (Astrid) suffers from the same genetic disease as Seth. Moreover, this disease is very rare, which further reduces the “suspect list”. Yes, we know that Alexander harmed his own daughter (Astrid) after the famous events, making her a wheelchair-bound invalid, but her congenital genetic disease, as far as I can tell, has always been with her. So Yvette (in theory) could very well be Seth's hypothetical mother too.

 

[Maviarab]

I think we need to know a little more about Callista's past to be able to say that with certainty. If we assume that Callista had no other male partners except her husband Cole and Alexander Karlsson, then Seth could be Alexander's son, whom he abandoned, thinking that a sick child could not be his heir and so he gave him to the runaway Callista to raise...or Seth could have another father (with genetic problems manifested in Seth) and another mother (not Callista). But in this case, it must be someone very important to Callista herself, so that she (despite her kindness) took Seth for upbringing...BTW, we again know nothing about whether Callista raised Seth and if so, how and when..

But I wouldn't rule out that Seth could be the son of Alexander Karlsson and someone else...If that someone else is not Callista, then it's probably Yvette. As we know, one of Yvette's daughters (Astrid) suffers from the same genetic disease as Seth. Moreover, this disease is very rare, which further reduces the “suspect list”. Yes, we know that Alexander harmed his own daughter (Astrid) after the famous events, making her a wheelchair-bound invalid, but her congenital genetic disease, as far as I can tell, has always been with her. So Yvette (in theory) could very well be Seth's hypothetical mother too.

He never mentioned Seth...he was asking about Zach.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I think we need to know a little more about Callista's past to be able to say that with certainty. If we assume that Callista had no other male partners except her husband Cole and Alexander Karlsson, then Seth could be Alexander's son, whom he abandoned, thinking that a sick child could not be his heir and so he gave him to the runaway Callista to raise...or Seth could have another father (with genetic problems manifested in Seth) and another mother (not Callista). But in this case, it must be someone very important to Callista herself, so that she (despite her kindness) took Seth for upbringing...BTW, we again know nothing about whether Callista raised Seth and if so, how and when..

But I wouldn't rule out that Seth could be the son of Alexander Karlsson and someone else...If that someone else is not Callista, then it's probably Yvette. As we know, one of Yvette's daughters (Astrid) suffers from the same genetic disease as Seth. Moreover, this disease is very rare, which further reduces the “suspect list”. Yes, we know that Alexander harmed his own daughter (Astrid) after the famous events, making her a wheelchair-bound invalid, but her congenital genetic disease, as far as I can tell, has always been with her. So Yvette (in theory) could very well be Seth's hypothetical mother too.

Unless Elena was blatantly lying to Olivia, he can't be Alexander's son. Besides if Seth was his son, I'd imagine that there would be no use for the gambit in the first place. Yvette as mother does make a lot of sense storyline wise.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

there is a revolution happening which could cont as revenge but Im not sure if k4 and below is privvy to that.

Sub path will have revolution! Part 2 will actually reveal 2 key leaders of the revolution faction and it’s one of the most fluid factions in the game in regards to characters joining/leaving it! Sub side is alittle more complex than the dom routes becauseMiss Tess is considering a non Olivia path and a involved Olivia path

 

[Stan5851]

He never mentioned Seth...he was asking about Zach.

You're right, but I assumed the person was just confusing the names Seth and Zach, i.e. he was talking about Seth (not Zach).

 

[Stan5851]

Besides if Seth was his son, I'd imagine that there would be no use for the gambit in the first place. Yvette as mother does make a lot of sense storyline wise.

Either way, Gambit would have made sense (from Alexander's own perspective). As we know, Alexander was morbidly obsessed with genetics (and eugenics, if you will) and wanted his future heir to be perfect (and preferably the fruit of his and Callista's union), and he certainly didn't want to play Russian roulette and get a grandson with a genetic disease inherited on his mother's or father's side.

But if we assume that the sick Seth is still Yvette's son (which I'm leaning towards), then the question remains as to who Seth's real father is. If it's Alexander, then either there's something wrong with Alexander's genes and heredity, or this disease of Astrid's and Seth's was passed on to them through Yvette's mother's line. All in all, what is clear is that nothing is clear. Let's wait to see what Tess has to say. (in the future updates)

 

[yahia1000]

can i get saves?

 

[Rocket007!]

He never mentioned Seth...he was asking about Zach.

I forgot his name thus I added a question mark in bracket.

 

[Stan5851]

can i get saves?

It's a useless idea, you should to play this game yourself. And if you are asking for a save in the expectation of viewing the in-game gallery of scenes, at the moment, in the official version of KG there is no game gallery. This is a large-scale and complex game with many decisions that can lead you to completely different results, so using someone else's saves in it is quite pointless.

Some players have more than 10-20 different saves, each of which is responsible for its own playthrough. The MC has too many possibilities to move both up and down (on the Dom or Sub path), so it's better to start playing by yourself...And if "blind playthrough" is not for you, use the official walkthrough or/and Sancho mod.

 

[PickerLewd]

I think I may have accidentally kicked Dark Quean Olivia out of here .

I mentioned her in the thread of another new game where Dominas abuse the MC and I think she liked it and hasn't come back.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I think I may have accidentally kicked Dark Quean Olivia out of here .

I mentioned her in the thread of another new game where Dominas abuse the MC and I think she liked it and hasn't come back.

She's like beetejuice, if you say her name three times, she will appear.

 

[PickerLewd]

She's like beetejuice, if you say her name three times, she will appear.

It's a good thing I only said it once and was spared punishment .

 

[Dark Quean Olivia]

She's like beetejuice, if you say her name three times, she will appear.

It's a good thing I only said it once and was spared punishment .

That's really what you think huh? Interesting. Do tell us more about this theory, I'm all ears.

 

[PickerLewd]

Well, both theories have failed, she's still lurking in the shadows around here and it didn't take being named three times for her to show up and scare us all .

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Well, both theories have failed, she's still lurking in the shadows around here and it didn't take being named three times for her to show up and scare us all .

I may or may not have said her name three times while looking in the mirror

 

[Silver_Crow117]

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[Raynare69]

I don't know about Sam and Pat, but we know for sure (from Tess' own words) that Phoebe (+ possibly someone else) will be in the harem.

The Alessandra/Celeste/Phoebe harem path (my original narrative) may be tweaked and even expanded.

I'm pretty happy to hear this! Phoebe is absolutely one of my favorites! I'm definitely going to make this path my priority, though I have several different path playthroughs that I'll still keep up with.