MilesEdgeworth

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It could have been, for example. And that scenario fits in with Olivia's Agent theory.
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Perhaps, but I am still of the opinion that Olivia's not raised by Callista because Alexander wanted a child raised without his evil; he wanted Olivia away from him but didn't want to kill her for some unknown reason ( possibly another set of ovaries for Kane to impregnate). Id argue that Alexander didn't want to see Olivia, Tess was tricky, the person he really wanted to see was someone else in that scene :sneaky:
 

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Perhaps, but I am still of the opinion that Olivia's not raised by Callista because Alexander wanted a child raised without his evil; he wanted Olivia away from him but didn't want to kill her for some unknown reason ( possibly another set of ovaries for Kane to impregnate). Id argue that Alexander didn't want to see Olivia, Tess was tricky, the person he really wanted to see was someone else in that scene :sneaky:
Can you explain this scene to me then?

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Can you explain this scene to me then?

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Sure, she's literally using Callista's unhappy terminology when talking about Alexander. She easily could've learned everything discussed there from Callista.
 

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The ???????? (pink) name just gets reused for mysterious identities.

The daughter at the beginning (Almost certainly Olivia) has it.
Grym Gudinna has it.
Undercover Veronica (red tips) has it.
Probably more people have it.
Well, that's quite the assumption stated as fact. I would say:

The daughter at the beginning (Almost certainly Veronica) has it.
Grym Gudinna (almost certainly Veronica) has it.
Undercover Veronica (almost certainly the Grym Gudinna) has it.
No one else (that I'm aware of) has it.
 
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Perhaps, but I am still of the opinion that Olivia's not raised by Callista because Alexander wanted a child raised without his evil; he wanted Olivia away from him but didn't want to kill her for some unknown reason ( possibly another set of ovaries for Kane to impregnate). Id argue that Alexander didn't want to see Olivia, Tess was tricky, the person he really wanted to see was someone else in that scene :sneaky:
It seems like we're theorizing about almost the same thing (albeit with some differences). :) Yes, Alexander didn't want Olivia to grow up under his evil aura, so as we know, she was raised by Callista, who has strict moral principles...I'm just speculating that Alexander (with Callista's permission) could have taken Olivia in, for a fairly short period of time...and as an adult, to train her to run the company and people...

Young, but already grown up Olivia had a certain moral compass, a great baggage of knowledge from Callista and her perfect acting skills...So Alexander in this sense (even if he wanted to) could not in any way in a short period of time spoil her personality with his evil, but just to share important information and knowledge that would allow Olivia to compete more confidently with his other daughters when the Gambit begins, he could well. And it is quite possible that he did it..

Yes, someone may ask - but was the knowledge that was given to Olivia by Callista who raised her not enough to compete with other Karlssons and to realize the ultimate goal? Technically, probably enough...But who can know better than their own daughters, than the father (albeit a father afflicted with vice and evil) who raised them? So perhaps some very valuable information about the daughters, Liv may well have gotten from Alexander, who wanted to make her even more prepared for Gambit than Callista had already done.

That doesn't mean that's what happened, but at least it explains why it was Olivia that Alexander wanted to see before he died.. It couldn't have been something like, "I'm going to see my daughter for the first time in 20+ years. I'm going to talk to her for five minutes, then make a shocked face, realize she tricked me, and die...".

Sounds pretty crazy, right?

So in this case, it's logical to assume that Alexander and Liv's meetings have happened before.. Maybe they were small format meetings, a day or two, once a week, when Callista let her go to him, or maybe they were longer meetings/training sessions, but in this case at least we are left with the logic - Alexander, right before he dies, wants to talk to the daughter he trusts the most..and whom of course he already knows well, but who nevertheless managed to cheat him (whatever that means).
 

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well we've been coming to split a chapter in 4 , even waiting for an year?? this is absurd...really...and no wtmod yet...i think i'll pass than..this is becoming a joke...test version ,splitting a chapter in 4...bah-a pity cuz the story is good and women are hot too
 

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well we've been coming to split a chapter in 4 , even waiting for an year?? this is absurd...really...and no wtmod yet...i think i'll pass than..this is becoming a joke...test version ,splitting a chapter in 4...bah-a pity cuz the story is good and women are hot too
Don't let the door hit you on the way out...
 

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well we've been coming to split a chapter in 4 , even waiting for an year?? this is absurd...really...and no wtmod yet...i think i'll pass than..this is becoming a joke...test version ,splitting a chapter in 4...bah-a pity cuz the story is good and women are hot too
See you later, I guess?!?

There are 2 PDF walkthroughs and URM is very friendly with the game so a walkthrough mod is just lazy handholding at this point.

Ep 8 is split into multiple parts because it's fucking huge and we'd be waiting for years for the whole thing (which would lead to burnout and lost interest). Breaking large projects into smaller chunks is just smart development. You handle bugs in batches, you keep interest on your product, and gives you the ability to look at a massive project on a smaller scale.
 

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well we've been coming to split a chapter in 4 , even waiting for an year?? this is absurd...really...and no wtmod yet...i think i'll pass than..this is becoming a joke...test version ,splitting a chapter in 4...bah-a pity cuz the story is good and women are hot too
well why is it hidden under spoiler and extra for season 1 only? this means there is no mod for season 2?
The use of the "Sancho Mod" has already been answered many times in this thread... Perhaps its creator is no longer with us... You can still use this great mod for Season 1 (0.7b) on its own or in combination with the official walkthrough... Another modder has "picked up the fallen flag", see the Multi-Mod (Sancho mod) thread at the link in the OP for details.

Well for now, just use URM. This powerful tool won't break your save files, but will allow you to play the game without waiting for Tess to write a 0.8.2 WT or for a new modder to create a replacement for the Sancho mod.

So less panic and more reading this thread...Everything is solvable, all questions have answers. The main thing is not to be lazy and read. Enjoy the game.:whistle::coffee:
 

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I've done one playthrough so far today. Started with my favorite, the save I called Scorched Earth. It involves a relatively evil Kane, a very Evil Olivia, (she goes full murderess, demoness, basically if there's an evil flag she's tripping it) evil Dominique, and choosing Chloe (yuck) to manage the pod based on her connection to Dominique. (Sorry Angelica, I promise you're the pod manager in every other route.)

Some of this was also in the test version but I'm doing individual spoilers, just things I thought of in the middle of scenes. Obviously this is spoiler territory.

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As for Tess possibly dropping development, I don't think it come to that. At least, I hope not. I think a few days off post release will help reset her and hopefully there's enough positive support that she'll get back to work with some of the newer safeguards in place (like having her Patreon ran by someone else, having her messages filtered, etc). If Tess drops development, not only is it disappointing for quite a few people, I would think it could impact Anais's VN indirectly.
 
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