VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Misosoc]

My 2 cents which I know ain't worth squat but I'm going to express it anyway. You "great wall of text-ers" and "spoiler spammers" please read.

Many folks participating in this thread (or any thread for that matter) should take a hard look at how the post qouted above is formatted (regardless of it's opinions/thoughts expressed). There's no mass wall of text taking the entire page with the post and any potential spoilers are all contained.

This is how you discuss/debate while protecting those who are seeking particular information w/out getting the VN spoiled beyond limits (which if you read this thread it is...for the life of me I don't understand why some folks can't push the fucking Spoiler tag, either inline or buttoned).

I know some don't care about other folks, that's the world we live in, but at least consider it. It's up to each and everyone of us to make a forum what it is, either beneficial or a dumpster fire. We should make every attempt at showing some respect to fellow members imo. Anyway, enough of my soapbox. Thanks for considering and regards.

How and where can I put my comments under this spoiler tag you refer? I checked my edit comment, I checked my other options and I only see, quote, edit, and reply. Nothing About changing my format. If I know how to do it, I surely would have and I will go back and do it if I can.

 

[Sancho1969]

How and where can I put my comments under this spoiler tag you refer? I checked my edit comment, I checked my other options and I only see, quote, edit, and reply. Nothing About changing my format. If I know how to do it, I surely would have and I will go back and do it if I can.

There's two ways: inline spoiler and button spoiler, both have their place depending on how you wish it to be formatted. Inline is great for quick spoilers in a sentence or paragraph that otherwise doesn't have anything to spoil. The button is a good choice if spoilers may be rampant in a sentence,paragraph, etc.

Note that the spoiler button is also the preferred method to enclose things like traceback errors, and other bloated text to keep a post reasonably sized and viewable to only those who may wish to see.

Inline spoiler is located here:

and it looks like this when text is first selected then the inline chosen (click the blurred text to see it): This is using inline text.

Button spoiler is located next to the "Smilies" and is iconed with a flag:

and it looks like this when text is first selected then the button spoiler is chosen and completed

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[Sinopsiso]

Another part of my chaotic thoughts.

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[Deleted member 3042943]

Olivia CAN in theory have Kane as a love interest, but why would she, if her whole life you've been raised as siblings. If you find out after let's say 20 years that your sibling is not your sibling, would you suddenly go 'oh, so we can fuck?'. No. And I think Tess has made that clear.

 

[Innocience]

Olivia CAN in theory have Kane as a love interest, but why would she, if her whole life you've been raised as siblings. If you find out after let's say 20 years that your sibling is not your sibling, would you suddenly go 'oh, so we can fuck?'. No. And I think Tess has made that clear.

You finally convinced me! And it made me realize another thing - Olivia would never hurt Kane or Seth!

I mean, Olivia CAN in theory have Kane/Seth as a pain toy and get off on their suffering, but why would she, if her whole life you've been raised as siblings. If you find out after let's say 20 years that your sibling is not your sibling, would you suddenly go 'oh, so I can torture you?'. No. And I think Tess has made that clear in her game.


On a more serious side: You've never once heard a story about some couple whose relationship somebody or themselves described as "sibling like" until there came some point after which everything changed and they evolved into something more?
Really? Many relationships I know of start from a foundation of deep-seated trust.
I find it very easy to believe that such relationships could also form from the deep-seated trust (functioning) relatives have for each other.

 

[Deleted member 3042943]

You finally convinced me! And it made me realize another thing - Olivia would never hurt Kane or Seth!

I mean, Olivia CAN in theory have Kane/Seth as a pain toy and get off on their suffering, but why would she, if her whole life you've been raised as siblings. If you find out after let's say 20 years that your sibling is not your sibling, would you suddenly go 'oh, so I can torture you?'. No. And I think Tess has made that clear in her game.


On a more serious side: You've never once heard a story about some couple whose relationship somebody or themselves described as "sibling like" until there came some point after which everything changed and they evolved into something more?
Really? Many relationships I know of start from a foundation of deep-seated trust.
I find it very easy to believe that such relationships could also form from the deep-seated trust (functioning) relatives have for each other.

Your clear sarcasm aside, you do have a point that Olivia suddenly feeling sexually aroused by torturing her "siblings" doesn't align with the fact that they grew up together. However, those things are more linked to your choices of making Olivia Evil, and aren't strictly linked to being sexually attracted to them, it's more like the fact that she can now dominate even her supposed brothers is turning her on, which like Tess stated before, isn't "traditional" incest, which we won't see in the game.

My point is that if she's to have a sexual relationship with one of her "brothers", that would go against Tess' vision of no "traditional" incest. I just don't see a clear path to an Olivia/Kane romance. The hints are there for an alliance, for sure, which narratively makes more sense as well.

 

[I am Gone]

Your clear sarcasm aside, you do have a point that Olivia suddenly feeling sexually aroused by torturing her "siblings" doesn't align with the fact that they grew up together. However, those things are more linked to your choices of making Olivia Evil, and aren't strictly linked to being sexually attracted to them, it's more like the fact that she can now dominate even her supposed brothers is turning her on, which like Tess stated before, isn't "traditional" incest, which we won't see in the game.

My point is that if she's to have a sexual relationship with one of her "brothers", that would go against Tess' vision of no "traditional" incest. I just don't see a clear path to an Olivia/Kane romance. The hints are there for an alliance, for sure, which narratively makes more sense as well.

Did you forget when Olivia went to the k2 area and the doctor offered to turn either mc or jake into a sex slave for her?

Edit: Also don't forget when Seth was being tormented with Olivia and mc watching she got aroused looking at mc's dick during the bj

 

[Deleted member 3042943]

Did you forget when Olivia went to the k2 area and the doctor offered to turn either mc or jake into a sex slave for her?

I don't think it was specifically "for her". To me at least, it was a way for Olivia that she won't treat Kane with favouritism over the others. She asks her who she wants to be trained to her specific kinks and desires, but then the actual option has her thinking that "it will show others how far I'm willing to go there".

Then again, this is K2 training, and would never be on the Dom path. So Kane serving Olivia in a sexual way (orally) may not go under Tess' traditional incest rules. It's another way for Evil Dom Olivia to assert her dominance over her "brother".

 

[I am Gone]

I don't think it was specifically "for her". To me at least, it was a way for Olivia that she won't treat Kane with favouritism over the others. She asks her who she wants to be trained to her specific kinks and desires, but then the actual option has her thinking that "it will show others how far I'm willing to go there".

Then again, this is K2 training, and would never be on the Dom path. So Kane serving Olivia in a sexual way (orally) may not go under Tess' traditional incest rules. It's another way for Evil Dom Olivia to assert her dominance over her "brother".

You also ignored the fact she was turned on when mc got a bj staring at his dick.

 

[Deleted member 3042943]

You also ignored the fact she was turned on when mc got a bj staring at his dick.

Didn't ignore that fact. I just didn't mention it.

I also didn't mention the fact that Veronica told Elena not to try and circumvent her father, to which she replies "I understand. I won't risk it. But I can't see how... she would have a chance anyway. It's not the same." Imo there are two options for who she is referring to:

1. Olivia. She says it's not the same because they are like siblings, even if they are not. OR

2. Chanel, because she says she can't see how she would have the chance. It's not the same because Chanel may not be Karlsson's daughter, but could be a more distantly related person. Tess also told us not to underestimate Chanel, as she will play an important role.

So if the first one is right, then yeah, Olivia+Kane will be a thing. If she was referring to Chanel, then there is an option for Chanel to win the Gambit somehow.

 

[I am Gone]

Didn't ignore that fact. I just didn't mention it.

I also didn't mention the fact that Veronica told Elena not to try and circumvent her father, to which she replies "I understand. I won't risk it. But I can't see how... she would have a chance anyway. It's not the same." Imo there are two options for who she is referring to:

1. Olivia. She says it's not the same because they are like siblings, even if they are not. OR

2. Chanel, because she says she can't see how she would have the chance. It's not the same because Chanel may not be Karlsson's daughter, but could be a more distantly related person. Tess also told us not to underestimate Chanel, as she will play an important role.

So if the first one is right, then yeah, Olivia+Kane will be a thing. If she was referring to Chanel, then there is an option for Chanel to win the Gambit somehow.

Ah, I see so ignore some facts but accept others, reminds me of a certain political party. Makes it impossible to have a debate/conversation. Be cool to see how it would go if doctors ignored certain facts during surgery, wonder if it would have an impact on whether they survive or not.

 

[Deleted member 3042943]

Ah, I see so ignore some facts but accept others, reminds me of a certain political party. Makes it impossible to have a debate/conversation. Be cool to see how it would go if doctors ignored certain facts during surgery, wonder if it would have an impact on whether they survive or not.

The fact that I'm being civil, trying to have a conversation, and you just keep on blabbering about how I ignore facts. And you're comparing me to a political party, instead of engaging with the matter at hand. Reminds me of a certain type of narcissism.

 

[I am Gone]

The fact that I'm being civil, trying to have a conversation, and you just keep on blabbering about how I ignore facts. And you're comparing me to a political party, instead of engaging with the matter at hand. Reminds me of a certain type of narcissism.

Lol, I'm being civil also. I was just pointing out a couple of things that I noticed in the game. You are the one going through all the trouble of ignoring stuff to fit your narrative to try and shut others down who were expressing what they thought also. That doctor/political example was just to make you see how illogical it is to ignore certain things to fit your idea.

 

[MingoSuave]

I will start with your last statement. No the fuck the game would be over. There are 5 Karlsson daughters. Why would Olivia get the company over the other 4? There would still be a Gambit since I am pretty certain Alexander wants MC and one of his daughters to actually run things.

So if Elena is Olivia mother, then Olivia is not MC sister either. Therefore no incest and she will be a love interest to the MC just like the other 4 Karlsson sisters. That was my whole point from original posting. She should be back on the table for pursuit.

Because he doesnt give a fuck about his daughters or Kane, he cares about callista. It's all about his vision for the company and callistas blood combined with his trumps any advantages his other daughters have.

Sure she is a viable li.

 

[Deleted member 1906916]

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[Sancho1969]

SanchoGallery (WIP) - Update

Looking to finalize this feature so I can push out an update w/ some other minor bug fixes. I've selected over 30 scenes for the initial gallery. They are in the spoiler below. Before it's asked, no, I did not put every single scene in it as I might as well just copy/paste the dang VN into the gallery .

If someone feels I've missed a biggie, then feel free to leave a post in the mod's thread as to keep this thread clean. Please take a moment and look at other posts to make sure we don't duplicate requests (cut me some slack). Fair warning, I'm not personally into the whole MC-sub thing but I sprinkled some of those in here so some folks wouldn't troll the heck out of me. I've marked those particular scene names to end in "Sub" so it's obvious. Anyway, take a look in the spoiler if you wish, I'll update a post this evening or early in the morning when the new update gets deployed. Regards.

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[Deleted member 3042943]

Lol, I'm being civil also. I was just pointing out a couple of things that I noticed in the game. You are the one going through all the trouble of ignoring stuff to fit your narrative to try and shut others down who were expressing what they thought also. That doctor/political example was just to make you see how illogical it is to ignore certain things to fit your idea.

I'm not trying to shut down anything, I've actually given a possibility where K+O can happen. I'm not trying to fit a narrative. I can admit to at least that. You can't seem to be able to get rid of your pride.

 

[I am Gone]

I'm not trying to shut down anything, I've actually given a possibility where K+O can happen. I'm not trying to fit a narrative. I can admit to at least that. You can't seem to be able to get rid of your pride.

Lmfao what pride? pointing out things that are illogical is pride? Go on somewhere else kid.

 

[Innocience]

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[Deleted member 3042943]

Lmfao what pride? pointing out things that are illogical is pride? Go on somewhere else kid.

Exactly what I'm talking about. Have a good one!