VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

Spoiler: Spoiler to your spoiler from my original spoiler

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Can't be assed spoilering again lol...

Pat was talking to Alessandra...pretty 100% positive on that given the interaction with both of them towards the end of the last chapter where Alessandra is....getting rid of someone in the coffin....it all fits perfectly (though to be fair, not actually confirmed).

As for being underneath Olivia...umm...sure...every day, even as a dom

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Can't be assed spoilering again lol...

Pat was talking to Alessandra...pretty 100% positive on that given the interaction with both of them towards the end of the last chapter where Alessandra is....getting rid of someone in the coffin....it all fits perfectly (though to be fair, not actually confirmed).

As for being underneath Olivia...umm...sure...every day, even as a dom

Hey man, as a mostly sub player, I agree with you a Dom Olivia hahaha but that’s interesting with Alessandra… I guess we’ll have to see… but we haven’t really seen any of the sub paths branch out to an extent… we’ve also gotten just Juliette and Dominique as a possible sponsorship, but those haven’t been expanded on yet, along with there’s more sponsorships in the future along with other factions/groups to join… I already posted that photo of what route Miss Tess planned out (from the top of her head..) so we’ll see… I just know, sub and Dom players are good to go for all these routes and content

 

[Maviarab]

Hey man, as a mostly sub player, I agree with you a Dom Olivia hahaha but that’s interesting with Alessandra… I guess we’ll have to see… but we haven’t really seen any of the sub paths branch out to an extent… we’ve also gotten just Juliette and Dominique as a possible sponsorship, but those haven’t been expanded on yet, along with there’s more sponsorships in the future along with other factions/groups to join… I already posted that photo of what route Miss Tess planned out (from the top of her head..) so we’ll see… I just know, sub and Dom players are good to go for all these routes and content

Haha...I was referring to more even as DomKane...if Olivia wants to be on top....sure thing....I'm just imaging her arched back...breasts bouncing....*forgets what he was saying*....

As for sponsorship, I've had Dominiques for a while now (on dom path) so good that the other path has more options incoming. Given what Stan mentioned earlier, I'm going to do another run with DomKane and SubLiv but make sure Olivia does not get the Gambit points...it's one path/save I don't currently have...I think a submissive Olivia to Dom Kane could be interesting if that variable is key (already have a path like that but Olivia picked up her GambitQueen variable).

One thing I like about this, there's always something you missed and on each new run through the game, more things start to click into place.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Haha...I was referring to more even as DomKane...if Olivia wants to be on top....sure thing....I'm just imaging her arched back...breasts bouncing....*forgets what he was saying*....

As for sponsorship, I've had Dominiques for a while now (on dom path) so good that the other path has more options incoming. Given what Stan mentioned earlier, I'm going to do another run with DomKane and SubLiv but make sure Olivia does not get the Gambit points...it's one path/save I don't currently have...I think a submissive Olivia to Dom Kane could be interesting if that variable is key (already have a path like that but Olivia picked up her GambitQueen variable).

One thing I like about this, there's always something you missed and on each new run through the game, more things start to click into place.

Yeah I do need to download the newest version of SachoMods Version… I haven’t used it since version 6.2? Of KG!!

 

[Sharpshooter890]

I replayed the game the other day as a K4 start who never made any mistakes in the Joy Facility and made it to the top Katsumi-style, but the game treats you as a SecretSub, meaning I got sub scenes for Alessandra, even though we never interacted before. If it's not a bug, then it definetely is the least developed route of the game. I mean, maybe prison made Kane stupid so he failed the test in prison, but it shouldn't turn him into a sub automatically.

 

[Stan5851]

I replayed the game the other day as a K4 start who never made any mistakes in the Joy Facility and made it to the top Katsumi-style, but the game treats you as a SecretSub, meaning I got sub scenes for Alessandra, even though we never interacted before. If it's not a bug, then it definetely is the least developed route of the game. I mean, maybe prison made Kane stupid so he failed the test in prison, but it shouldn't turn him into a sub automatically.

There are many different decisions in this game, and not all of them are obvious and clear in terms of where they will take you, so I suggest you use SanchoMod (MultiMod) and/or the official walkthrough.
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[Maviarab]

I replayed the game the other day as a K4 start who never made any mistakes in the Joy Facility and made it to the top Katsumi-style, but the game treats you as a SecretSub, meaning I got sub scenes for Alessandra, even though we never interacted before. If it's not a bug, then it definetely is the least developed route of the game. I mean, maybe prison made Kane stupid so he failed the test in prison, but it shouldn't turn him into a sub automatically.

Might test that later. Didn't think it was possible to get to K9 from K4 by the current update. The only way AFAIK to get on Alessandra's SecretSub route is to agree to her terms. Also, starting as K4 automatically puts you on the sub path as default so have to work very hard to change that situation. Also, refusing Alessandra's offer can demote you a rank (if pick the sub options with her originally).

You must have picked some choices that you don't recall making (and were unaware of the consequences of such)...though to be fair I'm not fully up to speed with all the K4/Sub routes. Maybe one of the others can correct me or enighten you.

 

[Cirelc]

I replayed the game the other day as a K4 start who never made any mistakes in the Joy Facility and made it to the top Katsumi-style, but the game treats you as a SecretSub, meaning I got sub scenes for Alessandra, even though we never interacted before. If it's not a bug, then it definetely is the least developed route of the game. I mean, maybe prison made Kane stupid so he failed the test in prison, but it shouldn't turn him into a sub automatically.

The Prison Test is the mayor fork for the sub/dom branch.
K5 and K6 -> Dom Paths
K4 and lower -> Sub Paths

If you don't know that, it will fuck your playthrough completely.
If you start K4 you are a Sub and not a SecretSub and you still have alot of choices to make. Are you sure you played the latest version? Did a fresh start for your playthrough?

Might test that later. Didn't think it was possible to get to K9 from K4 by the current update.

It is SubK7.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I know this wasnt the point of that spoiler but I felt like being an acshuwalllee guy. Even Kane admits that he was Callistas favorite

 

[Stan5851]

I know this wasnt the point of that spoiler but I felt like being an acshuwalllee guy. Even Kane admits that he was Callistas favorite

Maybe, but in the end it was Olivia who ended up being the girl "with the golden spoon in her mouth" who got everything at once. I realise that Callista spent a long time preparing her for this mission, but it still seems unfair. While logically there's no contradiction here - Olivia's kinship with the Karlssons automatically opened the door to the top of the world for her - the internal conflict remains unresolved.

Yeah, KaneDom does not ask "why she got everything and he got crumbs, nothing?" and just diligently moves towards his goal, but I understand those players who, also because of this injustice in the initial starting positions, do not want an equal victory of Kane + Olivia, but want only Kane to win and Olivia to be completely subordinate/submissive to him.

 

[Maviarab]

Maybe, but in the end it was Olivia who ended up being the girl "with the golden spoon in her mouth" who got everything at once. I realise that Callista spent a long time preparing her for this mission, but it still seems unfair. While logically there's no contradiction here - Olivia's kinship with the Karlsons automatically opened the door to the top of the world for her - the internal conflict remains unresolved.

Yeah, KaneDom does not ask "why she got everything and he got crumbs, nothing?" and just diligently moves towards his goal, but I understand those players who, also because of this injustice in the initial starting positions, do not want an equal victory of Kane + Olivia, but want only Kane to win and Olivia to be completely subordinate/submissive to him.

I just want that cos I'm kinky and like a submissive woman hehe....my main save is equal KaneVia.

 

[Stan5851]

I just want that cos I'm kinky and like a submissive woman hehe....my main save is equal KaneVia.

Me too. But this moral stance (fighting inequality) makes us a little less perverted . Although, who am I kidding? We just like submissive women. But other than kidding, if Kane and Olivia started at the same rank, the game might even be still interesting and we'd have more tools to advance one or the other favourite.

Oh, and the teamwork in this case could have been more apparent with Kane and Olivia helping each other work their way to the top. Then again, there would have been a scenario where Olivia could have made a mistake, failed to rise to the challenge and become a submissive K1-K4 without even making it to the finals. But our KaneDom (who "helped" her make the mistake) could surely have saved her like a true valiant dastardly knight in shining armour, hehe..

 

[Maviarab]

Me too. But this moral stance (fighting inequality) makes us a little less perverted . Although, who am I kidding? We just like submissive women. But other than kidding, if Kane and Olivia started at the same rank, the game might even be still interesting and we'd have more tools to advance one or the other favourite.

Oh, and the teamwork in this case could have been more apparent with Kane and Olivia helping each other work their way to the top. Then again, there would have been a scenario where Olivia could have made a mistake, failed to rise to the challenge and become a submissive K1-K4 without even making it to the finals. But our KaneDom (who "helped" her make the mistake) could surely have saved her like a true valiant dastardly knight in shining armour, hehe..

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Maybe, but in the end it was Olivia who ended up being the girl "with the golden spoon in her mouth" who got everything at once. I realise that Callista spent a long time preparing her for this mission, but it still seems unfair. While logically there's no contradiction here - Olivia's kinship with the Karlssons automatically opened the door to the top of the world for her - the internal conflict remains unresolved.

Yeah, KaneDom does not ask "why she got everything and he got crumbs, nothing?" and just diligently moves towards his goal, but I understand those players who, also because of this injustice in the initial starting positions, do not want an equal victory of Kane + Olivia, but want only Kane to win and Olivia to be completely subordinate/submissive to him.

Poor Olivia is being set up to be hated by a lot of people.
Kane, for the reasons you mentioned
Dom + Juliette cuz she's the fav to take over their father's company at the moment, and she didn't have to go through the hell that they went through. Veronica favoring Olivia has got to piss them off big time
Alessandra- probably her biggest threat at the moment
Nadia- Got to have brother sister time with her actual brother.
By the end of all this, she might be very dependent upon Kane to keep her safe

 

[vongoladex]

Overall, Olivia is caught in the middle of the power struggle. Her sisters are not happy when they have another opponent.
She needs all the help she can get or she will be devoured by the other sisters

 

[lorkdubo]

Overall, Olivia is caught in the middle of the power struggle. Her sisters are not happy when they have another opponent.
She needs all the help she can get or she will be devoured by the other sisters

It was quite clear that Olivia was specially trained and prepared exactly for this situation. There is a fake state of urgency if you look at the superficial "fake" thoughts.
What I would like to know are the fail-safes for Kane/MC because in the sub-paths it's kinda scary. The scene where they are close to the lava is ehm... concerning.
I bet Cole and Callista if alive will not be happy seeing Kane/MC k4 or below.

 

[Maviarab]

Poor Olivia is being set up to be hated by a lot of people.
Kane, for the reasons you mentioned
Dom + Juliette cuz she's the fav to take over their father's company at the moment, and she didn't have to go through the hell that they went through. Veronica favoring Olivia has got to piss them off big time
Alessandra- probably her biggest threat at the moment
Nadia- Got to have brother sister time with her actual brother.
By the end of all this, she might be very dependent upon Kane to keep her safe

Overall, Olivia is caught in the middle of the power struggle. Her sisters are not happy when they have another opponent.
She needs all the help she can get or she will be devoured by the other sisters

I would add some points to yours and also largely disagree.

Olivia (and by some extension Kane) only have two real enemies. Alessandra and Juliette. Dominique and Veronica are both fully aware of the fact of the Gambit and what their father's wishes are. Neither of them are against KaneVia. Neither of them. Add to this, Elaine is also fully aware...and not against us.

If anything, all three are in KaneVia's corner and all three of them are board members. One of the sisters also is aware of potential threats from the two outside sisters. I think KaneVia personally are well protected currently and while Kane may be largely clueless still, Olivia most certainly is not and has Elaine fighting for her personally.

Sure, there are other potential enemies and getting cornered one on one by a sister (or two if Alles and Jules deide to ally) could be an issue, I think for the most part we are reletively safe currently. Once Olivia is on the board...that only strengthens both positions.

It was quite clear that Olivia was specially trained and prepared exactly for this situation. There is a fake state of urgency if you look at the superficial "fake" thoughts.
What I would like to know are the fail-safes for Kane/MC because in the sub-paths it's kinda scary. The scene where they are close to the lava is ehm... concerning.
I bet Cole and Callista if alive will not be happy seeing Kane/MC k4 or below.

Agree with that. I don't think a sub Kane is ever going to reach the top (and that's probabl not the canon story/path anyway) but would be interesting to see where that route does end. Could either parent intervene along the way...who knows...one of the beauties of this again..keeps you guessing with its intrigue.

 

[Don Sucio]

I would add some points to yours and also largely disagree.

Olivia (and by some extension Kane) only have two real enemies. Alessandra and Juliette. Dominique and Veronica are both fully aware of the fact of the Gambit and what their father's wishes are. Neither of them are against KaneVia. Neither of them. Add to this, Elaine is also fully aware...and not against us.

I think Dominique could be "quiet" if Kane wins the throne, but i´m pretty sure she doesn´t want to see Olivia in this throne, or another woman. If we follow Kane+Olivia path i don´t see how Dominique could support us.

I think the most dangerous sisters are Juliette and Dominique.

About Alessandra why you think she is against Olivia? I see her very supportive with Olivia, maybe i haven´t noticed something

 

[Maviarab]

About Alessandra why you think she is against Olivia? I see her very supportive with Olivia, maybe i haven´t noticed something

Because unlike gung-ho juliette who doesn't think...Alessandra is perhaps just as intelligent as Veronica and she a very, very...sneaky snake in the grass who calculates everything she does.

 

[Don Sucio]

Because unlike gung-ho juliette who doesn't think...Alessandra is perhaps just as intelligent as Veronica and she a very, very...sneaky snake in the grass who calculates everything she does.

That´s true, but for now i haven´t seen any agressive sign from Alessandra to Olivia,at leat for now