VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

I really asked Stan...
With my prejudices I thought you only played games with dominant or at worst neutral characters.
You know, things like any game with the tag "Female Domination" is untouchable territory for Maviarab .

I'm interested in story (and art, as have used Daz for 20 years myself) first and foremost. Content comes secondary. However, like Stan, I do despise femdom games (expecially if the MC is weak and pathetic...because that's an annoying trope). Loving wholesome femdom games (so basically, a D/s game where the woman is the dominant) I'll still happily try, even better if written by a dominant...I think it's important (as a dom myself in rl) to be able to also understand the other side of the coin in order to be better understanding their mindset. A male dom MC will yes, always be a first choice.

KG, once again, story hooked me first, DomPath (even though you're not actually a dom) made me even more interested in the VN. You're not dominating anyone...but you're not being pushed around either.

ED...there were signs early on (and from the dev) that you would be able to turn the tables so-to-speak on Ms Stern and her family. Fine...as long as there is somewhat of a path where you are not completely humiliated I'll try it. And like Stan, I did enjoy the VN. The art and 'look' was also second to none at times...but I stuck with it purely for Anya (hope to save her) and being able to get one over the rest (and keep sister safe). Otherwise no, you're correct, like Stan, I'd never probably try a pure femdom game unless it was spectacularly good or was like I said at the start of this post.

As for the VN count, I'm at over 700 tried currently heh...less than 10% of those I've kept and/or are actively following if currently still in development. The more I (you) try, the fussier you become and stop accepting mediocrity. That, or I'm very fussy and pedantic *shrugs*

 

[Stan5851]

I really asked Stan...
With my prejudices I thought you only played games with dominant or at worst neutral characters.
You know, things like any game with the tag "Female Domination" is untouchable territory for Maviarab .

In a nutshell, we both hate femdom, but Maviarab was able to find the strength and sacrifice his nerves to wade through KG's submissive paths and then share with the rest of the players his interesting observations and facts that players who only play Dom routes (like me) just missed.

 

[PickerLewd]

1.As you probably know, I hate playing as a SUB MC and I can't stand femdom in regards to MCs, so the games where I've played such a character can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

Is this true? You give me more hope for Monica's future on FB .

So no, I don't like to play as SUB MC, and ED is a rare exception, because it has amazing female models and its own special atmosphere that doesn't leave indifferent even those people, who don't like femdom. As for Mrs. Stern 3D model and Elena&Chanel 3D model - they are (imo) completely different. I posted earlier in this thread where you can still see morphed models based on very popular model of Chanel/Elena.

Well, if I'm honest, for me the ballerina is the same model as Beampole from Summer's Gone, and I saw in Mrs. Stern the same face of Elena but younger .

 

[Maviarab]

In a nutshell, we both hate femdom, but Maviarab was able to find the strength and sacrifice his nerves to wade through KG's submissive paths and then share with the rest of the players his interesting observations and facts that players who only play Dom routes (like me) just missed.

Hahahaah...yeah it...wasn't easy at times.

However, relevent events aside (main reason i did the runs)...I still found them interesting from kane's internal perspective. There's been recent discussion here in the last few pages over him not accepting it, wanting an out etc....however, nearly all missed the fact that within the dialogue, even if you are against Olivia...he still sees himself as not worthy, he is broken down...mentally brainwashed effectively...he himself believes, he is not worth anything better. That's an important aspect to take into account...

I still utterly despised most of the ''scenes' and the way he gets treated....and yeah will admit...I skipped through a lot of the actual 'scenes' and just read Kanes dialogue before skipping the rest of the 'scene'....but I'm glad I still did it regardless. Will be interesting now I think (with the faction stuff etc) how those paths develop. He already downtrodden, no self belief, thinks he unworthy etc....so that's been done...how will he be used now going forward? I'll most likely still skip all the actual femdom scenes themselves again hehee...really zero interest in seeing Kane used like a toy and humiliated, but be interesting to see where SubKanes story heads (purely from a narrative/lore perspective).

For me, Kane will always be a man of action, take care of his big sis and take no shit.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

In a nutshell, we both hate femdom, but Maviarab was able to find the strength and sacrifice his nerves to wade through KG's submissive paths and then share with the rest of the players his interesting observations and facts that players who only play Dom routes (like me) just missed.

Yeah but he looks at it through the eyes of a dom… not through a sub… so he missed a lot of stuff! It’s unfortunate but that’s what happens when you have a preconceived bias on how you **Prefer to play** that’s why I won’t miss a detail for Sub Kane specifically! So if you have any sub questions… I AM THAT GUY

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Hahahaah...yeah it...wasn't easy at times.

However, relevent events aside (main reason i did the runs)...I still found them interesting from kane's internal perspective. There's been recent discussion here in the last few pages over him not accepting it, wanting an out etc....however, nearly all missed the fact that within the dialogue, even if you are against Olivia...he still sees himself as not worthy, he is broken down...mentally brainwashed effectively...he himself believes, he is not worth anything better. That's an important aspect to take into account...

I still utterly despised most of the ''scenes' and the way he gets treated....and yeah will admit...I skipped through a lot of the actual 'scenes' and just read Kanes dialogue before skipping the rest of the 'scene'....but I'm glad I still did it regardless. Will be interesting now I think (with the faction stuff etc) how those paths develop. He already downtrodden, no self belief, thinks he unworthy etc....so that's been done...how will he be used now going forward? I'll most likely still skip all the actual femdom scenes themselves again hehee...really zero interest in seeing Kane used like a toy and humiliated, but be interesting to see where SubKanes story heads (purely from a narrative/lore perspective).

For me, Kane will always be a man of action, take care of his big sis and take no shit.

 

[PickerLewd]

As for the VN count, I'm at over 700 tried currently heh...less than 10% of those I've kept and/or are actively following if currently still in development. The more I (you) try, the fussier you become and stop accepting mediocrity. That, or I'm very fussy and pedantic *shrugs*

Absolutely right. I used to try everything in the beginning, but now that I have almost 40 games installed, I'm starting to get suspicious and I don't have the same patience to try anything, it's like refining my tastes.
P.S.: You and Stan accidentally spoiled that the redheaded girl in ED was the sister! In my version she was the childhood best friend, my innocence destroyed again .

 

[Maviarab]

Yeah but he looks at it through the eyes of a dom… not through a sub… so he missed a lot of stuff! It’s unfortunate but that’s what happens when you have a preconceived bias on how you **Prefer to play** that’s why I won’t miss a detail for Sub Kane specifically! So if you have any sub questions… I AM THAT GUY

Agreed yes (not that I could actually deny or argue that lmao). Which is why I've said, if anything particular happens that I miss because of my own bias, please do let me know so I can make a note of it and add it to my info sheets.

P.S.: You and Stan accidentally spoiled that the redheaded girl in ED was the sister! In my version she was the childhood best friend, my innocence destroyed again .

Sorry PL!

 

[Stan5851]

Is this true? You give me more hope for Monica's future on FB .

Sigh..

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[PickerLewd]

I still utterly despised most of the ''scenes' and the way he gets treated....and yeah will admit...I skipped through a lot of the actual 'scenes' and just read Kanes dialogue before skipping the rest of the 'scene'....but I'm glad I still did it regardless. Will be interesting now I think (with the faction stuff etc) how those paths develop. He already downtrodden, no self belief, thinks he unworthy etc....so that's been done...how will he be used now going forward? I'll most likely still skip all the actual femdom scenes themselves again hehee...really zero interest in seeing Kane used like a toy and humiliated, but be interesting to see where SubKanes story heads (purely from a narrative/lore perspective).

Sub Kane probably has a much greater variety of endings than Dom Kane.
Something very strange happens to me about playing on K4 Kane/subs paths. The scenes in K4 make me feel nothing but embarrassment when I see the family's face afterwards (The Kcocks). It's very weird, like I don't mind if it's a whole game in a hidden dungeon, but I don't like it anymore because it's something massive and public and not secret....

Yeah but he looks at it through the eyes of a dom… not through a sub… so he missed a lot of stuff! It’s unfortunate but that’s what happens when you have a preconceived bias on how you **Prefer to play** that’s why I won’t miss a detail for Sub Kane specifically! So if you have any sub questions… I AM THAT GUY

We count on you Silver! There must be a lot of finals playing as a sub:
1. Kane dead.
2. Kane pet to one of the sisters.
3. Kane slave of one of the sisters.
4. Kane servant.
etc.

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You're right, I'm talking and I already have my prejudices, having only played half of episode 1.

 

[vongoladex]

Ally with Gooddoom Kane

Elites: Nadia, Olivia, Veronica, Dominique, Claudia.

Staffs: Nurse Maria Reyes, Junko, Raven, Otto, Mia.

Slaves: Kwane, Jake, Angelica, Amy.

 

[Maviarab]

Sub Kane probably has a much greater variety of endings than Dom Kane.
Something very strange happens to me about playing on K4 Kane/subs paths. The scenes in K4 make me feel nothing but embarrassment when I see the family's face afterwards (The Kcocks). It's very weird, like I don't mind if it's a whole game in a hidden dungeon, but I don't like it anymore because it's something massive and public and not secret....

We count on you Silver! There must be a lot of finals playing as a sub:
1. Kane dead.
2. Kane pet to one of the sisters.
3. Kane slave of one of the sisters.
4. Kane servant.
etc.

Yeah I would agree there does seem to be a lot more variation in where/how SubKane can end up (factions aside which applies to both).

Also agree with your line of thinking in meeting others...as you say, no longer a secret which is a little unsettling. Again though, leads me back to what I mentioned earlier, Kane himself acepts his place in the world on those routes (by large), it's 'us' that feel bad about it hehe.

 

[Stan5851]

You're right, I'm talking and I already have my prejudices, having only played half of episode 1.

Honestly, I was pretty sure you were at least halfway through episode 2. Episode 1 is a prequel that basically shows what Monica was like before everything happened... Well, good luck with the game.. And remember, if you have any questions, post in the FB thread, I or the other guys will always answer and help.

 

[PickerLewd]

Also agree with your line of thinking in meeting others...as you say, no longer a secret which is a little unsettling. Again though, leads me back to what I mentioned earlier, Kane himself acepts his place in the world on those routes (by large), it's 'us' that feel bad about it hehe.

Maybe the part about the break could be written better.
In my case, as you know, in my second walkthrough I was at K4 and at the beginning of the game you could resist and answer Katsumi wrong, even if it ended in heavy punishments.
There comes a moment when the last option to "reveal" and answer wrong is against Chanel, she punishes you and from there the option to reveal disappears, the only thing left is to submit or play smart and quiet to try to ascend and get to the secret sub-K5 path (which, as you know, I failed miserably and stayed in K4 ).

Honestly, I was pretty sure you were at least halfway through episode 2. Episode 1 is a prequel that basically shows what Monica was like before everything happened... Well, good luck with the game.. And remember, if you have any questions, post in the FB thread, I or the other guys will always answer and help.

It seems like I know more, but in reality I've only seen the pictures uploaded to the Patreon or in the same thread, and I realise it's not the same almighty Monica with 100 million at her disposal .

 

[Sharpshooter890]

I'll most likely still skip all the actual femdom scenes themselves again hehee...really zero interest in seeing Kane used like a toy and humiliated, but be interesting to see where SubKanes story heads (purely from a narrative/lore perspective).

He'll probably end up being a fertilizer for some plants. He's entirely dependant on some evil bitch, and if said bitch looses to another evil bitch, he's gonna get fucked. Literally and metaphorically.

Loosing control like that, I just can't get the appeal of it (no kink shame, my good subbies).

 

[PickerLewd]

Sharpshooter890 are you the Shredder from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles ? (Profile Picture)

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Sharpshooter890 are you the Shredder from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles ? (Profile Picture)

Nah, a knight of Zakuul. It's from Star Wars MMO. I just like the look of the helmet.

 

[PickerLewd]

OK guys, now I have some free time to continue my game...

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I promise to support and buy the game when it's on Steam at the end of the year .

 

[Maviarab]

OK guys, now I have some free time to continue my game...

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I promise to support and buy the game when it's on Steam at the end of the year .

 

[PickerLewd]

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What? ...
I remember saying that I didn't want the beta, that I preferred to wait for the final version and I thought that you, Stan, Dover, the subs Kanes,etc around here had already traded the new version by private message and had forgotten to send it to me .