VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

Some background first followed by a detailed/complete answer as to why this happens:

The only way it's possible to have Maria (Nurse Reyes) die technically is to have been sponsored by Veronica in Ep6 and specifically choose the choice to insure the gas doesn't explode rather than attempt to save Maria. The issue is (regarding the VN) that there are two variables, MariaDies and MariaLives. Both of these variables are default to False in the VN. (remember this for the next part)

Now, in Ep8 regardless of sponsor the convo about Maria comes up during the Hacker/Veronica scene... and the dialogue is centered around if Maria died (MariaDies), using that variable specifically (remember it's defaulted to False). If she didn't die (and she can't die if the MC is sponsored by anyone else other than Veronica since that var defaults to False) then the dialogue in Ep8 assumes that Maria lived and that the MC "saved her" which is technically impossible if he's on a different sponsorship.

So, the VN's storyline regarding Nurse Reyes (Maria) is fucked up. That's the complete answer.

To be sorted correctly Tess needs to check who the MC's sponsor is (or also check the variable MariaLives which can only be awarded if on Veronica's sponsorship) and make the dialogue be conditionaled accordingly... so the story isn't fucked up during the convo with the Hacker (Nadia).

There's other storyline dialogue bugs in this VN too, you just happen to have stumbled on one of them and actually reading the story. Good on you tbh, most folks haven't even realized half the storyline bugs.

If I can interject a moment Sancho....

The variables MariaLivesSub and MarieDiesSub also exist...and you do not have Veronica's sponsorship (obviously, as you're a sub) for those. You do get the choice to save her or not on this path also.

You probably already know from the code (not checked it myself yet) but I do yet have to do my sub runs....so not sure if this scene also takes place on the sub paths (I imagine it does though).

 

[Sancho1969]

If I can interject a moment Sancho....

The variables MariaLivesSub and MarieDiesSub also exist...and you do not have Veronica's sponsorship (obviously, as you're a sub) for those. You do get the choice to save her or not on this path also.

You probably already know from the code (not checked it myself yet) but I do yet have to do my sub runs....so not sure if this scene also takes place on the sub paths.

Fair enough... Dom/Sub... the resulting dialogue issue is identical either way so simply replace the Dom vars in my post with the Sub vars and it's the same issue. So yes, it effects both main branches. My apologies for not making that clear.

 

[Sancho1969]

Maviarab, I edited my post to reflect I'm describing Dom paths. If I remember correctly if on the Sub paths (K2 thru K4) that you visit the lab by default... but I might be mistaken. This would mean that the same storyline issue is borked for any Sub paths other than K2 thru K4. I'm not a Sub story runner myself. I speedrun all those pathings when I update the mod tbh.

 

[bkrrish1995]

Is this the final version for version 8 ?

 

[Keresaspa]

It's crazy how fast and big this game's updates are, i wish some others would learn from you...

 

[PickerLewd]

In my case, I don't have those continuity errors, but unless a Patreon reports on the site, Tess will never know .

 

[Maviarab]

Maviarab, I edited my post to reflect I'm describing Dom paths. If I remember correctly if on the Sub paths (K2 thru K4) that you visit the lab by default... but I might be mistaken. This would mean that the same storyline issue is borked for any Sub paths other than K2 thru K4. I'm not a Sub story runner myself. I speedrun all those pathings when I update the mod tbh.

Yeah it is a mandatory visit IIRC. I always save her anyway so matters little to me. Also with you on the sub paths, I've done them (against my better judgement) purely for my timeline of noteable events...but skip through the actual scenes...just read dialogue..not my jam at all.

In my case, I don't have those continuity errors, but unless a Patreon reports on the site, Tess will never know .

I believe Tess has been notified via discord but would have to double check. I'll look later and if not will mention it in the bugs channel.

 

[bkrrish1995]

Is this the final version for version 8 ?

Anyone please reply.. Is this final for now there will be final version in some week ?

 

[Maviarab]

Anyone please reply.. Is this final for now there will be final version in some week ?

It's possible there will be a b version...grammar fixes and little bugs etc...but effectively yes, 0.8 Part1 won't change now.

 

[arrlubuthi]

Bud, this is going to read convoluted, but it is what it is, I didn't write the VN, stick with me here.

Prerequisites: Player must be on Dom fork (not Sub) and have been awarded "Demon" in Ep6 (last season).

The issue for many folks is how to be awarded "Demon" so that requires me to layout those prerequisites as well: "SisEvil" must be 12+ (12 or greater). I know this seems counterintuitive but the scene choice that the MC's "Demon" is awarded can NOT be accessed if Olivia isn't also a nasty bitch.

In Ep6, with Olivia at evil 12+ (SisEvil) there is a scene where MC and Olivia visit the K1 facility and meet Mercy:
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During that scene the first choice the Player has is required to choose the third:
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With the above done export data to Season 2 (Ep8). In Ep8 after the tennis match with Raven/Mia the Player can either choose to go to Raven's loft or skip it (it doesn't matter which is chosen), then the Player will be automatically directed to his communication with Juliette in the Player's shower scene. Here there is a choice to meet with Juliette or not, obviously we need to choose to visit her:
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This will proceed to Juliette's Kennels where the "Fun House" begins. So yes, to get here basically BOTH the MC and Olivia need to be evil/nasty across the board. Good luck out there.

Thanks. My sis is good and my mc is evil so I didn’t get that flag. It makes sense now

 

[NukaCola]

Not enough to be bothered about. Sub route gets an extra scene other than that.

Thanks for clarifying. I will probably never going to play sub path if I can help it.

 

[Maviarab]

Thanks for clarifying. I will probably never going to play sub path if I can help it.

I play for it for specific reasons, but no, I can't say I blame you at all...it's really not my thing either in all honesty, I have to force myself through my sub saves (which am currently doing lol).

But yes, obviously the actual content itself is very different, Sub Paths you are in the game show doing content there, dom paths you're doing other stuff with diff characters and your pod.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

My opinion: people who had a good update:

1. Angelica- street smarts are coming out once she's allowed to speak
2. Astrid- bravest of the Karlsson sisters. Something about her that's fun to watch. Not sure why she has so much trust in Olivia and/or Kane.
3. Olivia- Everybody important is advocating for her, depending on players choices, sealed up an alliance with Kance, mother has her back all the way
Special mention: Seth- dick increased, got some sex is in a really good place with the most kindest Karlsson sister

Bad update
1. Kitty- Went from the executive on the rise to Olivia's bitch. Her history with Astrid did not help her.
2. Alexander- lost his prisoner, and looked like a big goof in his first scene of the game, but most things are still going in his favor, which is why he isn't one
3. Callista- Surprise pick but I don't see how she gets out of this with her relationship with Kane in tact.
Special mention: Dom- lost the one thing that separated her from the other sisters. With all the other sisters offering him good sexual things, she remained mostly on the sidelines

 

[mistermwa]

Sancho1969 Hi, how do we obtain the scene with Veronica?

 

[Maviarab]

My opinion: people who had a good update:

1. Angelica- street smarts are coming out once she's allowed to speak
2. Astrid- bravest of the Karlsson sisters. Something about her that's fun to watch. Not sure why she has so much trust in Olivia and/or Kane.
3. Olivia- Everybody important is advocating for her, depending on players choices, sealed up an alliance with Kance, mother has her back all the way
Special mention: Seth- dick increased,

Bad update
1. Kitty- Went from the executive on the rise to Olivia's bitch. Her history with Astrid did not help her.
2. Alexander- lost his prisoner, and looked like a big goof in his first scene of the game, but most things are still going in his favor, which is why he isn't one
3. Callista- Surprise pick but I don't see how she gets out of this with her relationship with Kane in tact.
Special mention: Dom- lost the one thing that separated her from the other sisters. With all the other sisters offering him good sexual things, she remained mostly on the sidelines

1. Yup...she gonna be a great character I think.
2. For sure...very interesting sister...lot to find out about her.
3. well yeah...be she the main character really. Also...alliance...depends on path. I've had no alliance with her yet in my saves. Finding her hot and wanting to fuck her an alliance does not make. (only just started my sub saves though and not done my evil saves yet).

1. All she deserves (though if we find out more of her upbringing with Alexander, I may soften towards her). I was happy with that scene personally, one because she is effectively still Elena's slave, so just a transfer of ownership and two...and most importly...because I was so hoping (and was disappointed...once again) that Olivia (or even Elena) asked her wtf exactly she was doing on the other side of that desk? Seriously Olivia, start putting her in her place....time and time again Katsumi flaunts herself and pushes her station as more than she is and time and time again, Olivia let's it slide....starting to piss me off in all honesty.
2. Yeah, rather weak ass scene...just looked like an old man with his empire crumbling around him. Not very scary.
3. I'm on the fence. Learned more of and about her = good. Working with Veronica = good (kinda..I guess). But yeah, can't see any meeting with kane going well though if we truly believe everything we're told...then I suppose there were seriously strenuous circumstances....but...indifferent to her.

Sancho1969 Hi, how do we obtain the scene with Veronica?

What scene? Give us more context dude...we're not mind readers here.

if however you mean the 'special scene'' on the dom path.....wink wink, nudge nudge, you need to turn down Katsumi's offer to help with the gameshow. No other way to obtain it. (this does also open up an opportunity to obtain Kane Island 4 points too btw...how important those will be in the future? Who knows).

 

[Zooooooolfr]

yo icl i wouldnt be surprised if this was inspired by a book or a retelling of a book lmao the story is fucking solid

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Sancho1969 Hi, how do we obtain the scene with Veronica?

I assume you're talking about the sex. Turn down the gameshow with Veronica. Not sure if you need her as a sponsor, but def need to turn down being the gameshow host

 

[Silver_Crow117]

If anyone needs any sub information just lmk, I don’t skip through any of it, and I have the full notes! Not just the spark notes hahaha

 

[Maviarab]

If anyone needs any sub information just lmk, I don’t skip through any of it, and I have the full notes! Not just the spark notes hahaha

I'm slowly going through (just for any specific events that you don't see normally)....save sheet and character list already finished...just checking sub paths for timeline now.

For science...yeah....*shudders*

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

If anyone needs any sub information just lmk, I don’t skip through any of it, and I have the full notes! Not just the spark notes hahaha

gonna need the special subs revelations this update