VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[KeloKraven]

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[Maviarab]

Maviarab As a native English speaker, could you tell me what you think Tess meant by this phrase? As far as I understand, it is not about reducing the number of scenes, but about KaneDom playing an even more dominant role in them...or am I misunderstanding?

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Personally, I take that to mean, pretty much everything we have seen so far, has Kane with an authoritive figure, someone way above us in the food chain. Even if you take the recent threesome with Raven and Mia, in reality Raven is way above us in the food chain still. Most...the vast majority of scenes with Kane, feature a sister or two.

I take that sentence to mean, going forward, a M1+ or Z1+ Kane will have more autonomy, will do things 'on his own'...will do things with other female characters that are 'beneath him', but there will be no 'authority' figure above us present in the scene.

Kane, is finally starting to take control of his life and do shit away from the board.

For Z ranks I suppose you require 3 votes form members who are already in that rank , sis points might become important to get that rank, further I am sure that whoever sponsors mc will vote in our favour,not difficult to get that rank but still finding support might be hard if alignment with certain characters is not right. Also there are only around 31 members who are z rank and only 2 males have z rank.we also don't know how much are alive and would they support us?It would be fun in future to see how thing evolve .

There are plenty around us to obtain a vote from without worrying about the ones we don't even know exist. Depending on path, our sweet, friendly, beautiful neighborhood doctor Eloise will most likely vote for us (especially if she subserviant to us or Olivia). Jack is also a possibility if you did Julie's work placement (and even Alyssa if she gets herself promoted). There there is Kitty...be quite easy to get the votes (and not even started on actual board members yet).

Triggering the required flags and whether you have a sufficient enough standing with our resident Dark Quean however, is another matter entirely lol.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Or...might not...

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That one has me really curious...

Same here… probably choice based maybe too? Idk

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Well story reasons she had to, it seems was part of the Alexander deal. Maybe she was hoping he would 'rise up' and beat the odds and drag himself into power like Alexander did.

Yea she's not getting away with that reason she had other options and resources to protect Kane that she not only chose not to use, but sat on the information. It would be like being threatened by Musk when I had Beezos' grandchild. To make it worse, miss backup plan has a super small chance of success for that plan as dom good is the only Kane that would back her, any other alignment is either too weak or too evil to give a fuck about what she says.

 

[Maviarab]

Yea she's not getting away with that reason she had other options and resources to protect Kane that she not only chose not to use, but sat on the information. It would be like being threatened by Musk when I had Beezos' grandchild. To make it worse, miss backup plan has a super small chance of success for that plan as dom good is the only Kane that would back her, any other alignment is either too weak or too evil to give a fuck about what she says.

There's also the issue of what plans did Alexander have in place to force Callista to still go ahead even after he was dead. Too much missing information....as usual lol.

You're right though, will never dispute it...the whole thing has issues and holes. How much of those are attributed to our current lack of knowledge or not remains to be seen I guess. Hopefully the next couple of updates will clear up some these issues.

 

[Stan5851]

she had other options and resources to protect Kane that she not only chose not to use, but sat on the information.

There's no certainty that they even existed. We don't know anything about it. So I think we should wait until there is more information about all of this.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

That's what I was saying, the current SubK5+ path should not have switched to the dom path and should be what this new path will be.

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That's for Ep.7 which again, makes me think Tess completely forgot the old SubKaneK5+ route because that sounds exactly what the new system will be like. In fact, I'm actually going to ask her and get this 'path' clarified because right now, it goes nowhere.

Also, Secret Sub can/does take part in the Game Show. Not sure why you thought they didn't...

As for moving ranks easily, not really:

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Edit: Alright, asked on the Disco exactly what is going on with the old/current SubK5+ path, whether it will be scrapped, whether it will become more than it is (which is a Dom/SS path) or whether it will be merged with the new routes for TrustedSubs.



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Maybe she was talking about that before, and she just ended up calling it the “total sub” paths for more clarification… when reaching k5 as a sub, ur automatically put into the option of the secret sub route with the outer appearance of being a dom… or going the dom path… For Total Sub, it’s entirely different…I’m thinking now that k1-3 are slave and k4 and above is servant and butler and also where the romance options are… anyways, we should probably just wait for Miss Tess to clarify hahaha

and for Moving up the ranks, I meant in a sense for the total subs, especially since your pretty much locked into the k1-k4 range, it’s extremely hard supposedly to get out of that range compared to if your already out of the k range… that’s why I find a total sub going up the ranks (and keeping that statues) by having to do tasks for specific characters (that have there own goals) for whichever faction you want to align yourself towards is interesting for me personally because of the choices you gotta make.. like, do I wanna do these tasks to go higher in the ranks, ultimately aligning myself for that specific faction? itll be interesting to see

 

[Maviarab]

that’s why I find a total sub going up the ranks (and keeping that statues) by having to do tasks for specific characters (that have there own goals) for whichever faction you want to align yourself towards is interesting for me personally because of the choices you gotta make.. like, do I wanna do these tasks to go higher in the ranks, ultimately aligning myself for that specific faction? itll be interesting to see

I actually completely agree with that Crow, those routes do seem interesting to me, if for no other reason that you're avoiding the really hard femdom stuff, you're not completely humiliated and you're most certainly not the pathetic creature the current <K3 Kane is but you're still a sub.

I'm actually looking forward to those to be honest and yes, we shall see exactly Tess had in mind and what she clarfies.

 

[Lazarusrv]

mother of the year put someone who had no chance of winning the gambit if players playing as sub Kane. I know it's getting repetitive but wtf was she hoping to accomplish? I get it if he's a dom but holy shit.

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[Lazarusrv]

That's what I was saying, the current SubK5+ path should not have switched to the dom path and should be what this new path will be.

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That's for Ep.7 which again, makes me think Tess completely forgot the old SubKaneK5+ route because that sounds exactly what the new system will be like. In fact, I'm actually going to ask her and get this 'path' clarified because right now, it goes nowhere.

Also, Secret Sub can/does take part in the Game Show. Not sure why you thought they didn't...

As for moving ranks easily, not really:

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Edit: Alright, asked on the Disco exactly what is going on with the old/current SubK5+ path, whether it will be scrapped, whether it will become more than it is (which is a Dom/SS path) or whether it will be merged with the new routes for TrustedSubs.



Already out.

I don't know if have anything to do with the question but i remember reading somthing in discord and think this was the explanation

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[Stan5851]

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Because Kane is irreplaceable and necessary for the "Karlsson Gambit" to take place. He is the only possible (for now) claimant to the throne, who has Callista's "unique" blood in his genes, and the only possible father of a child not yet conceived (with one of the Karlsson sisters), who will inherit the entire Karlsson Group in the future, after coming of age (according to Alexander's will).

 

[Maviarab]

We have an asswer:

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So basically, the SubK5+ path 'is' the Alessa SS route. There's no difference. The only difference is whwther you start as a K4 Sub and move up or you start at K5/6 and specifically start Alessa's SS path.

Happy now, can delete that save then.

 

[WattsFU]

I have 2 secret subs on the go. 1 where i chose the nice secretary & do everything Alessandra tells me & 1 where i chose the sadistic secretary & do everything wrong where Alessandra gets pissed off with me so am looking forward to see where both route s take me lol

 

[Lazarusrv]

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So basically, the SubK5+ path 'is' the Alessa SS route. There's no difference.

Happy now, can delete that save then.

I think you can delete it, but I didn't understood that is the same, what I understand is that at a later time will be a new variable diferentiating secret sub and true Sub Kane, she says that Alessandra Romance only can be in secret Sub, but says other females can enter in the secret sub path, when asks directly if is the same, she doesn't confirm it only says that will be a diferent flag, also the example is subk5 when at the moment the secret sub path is subk7, who knows, maybe i'm reading too much

 

[Silver_Crow117]

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sub Kane wouldn’t end up dead, that’s only the case of he gets the rank of k1… k2 and up is derived of characters that’ll want Kane to either by their Slave, a servant (which are two different things) and romances, which are Junko, Claudia, Veronica and Olivia (might change in the future)… oh and there’s that path where Kane doesn’t choose anyone and goes to Auction to where the side characters can bid for him

 

[Lazarusrv]

sub Kane wouldn’t end up dead, that’s only the case of he gets the rank of k1… k2 and up is derived of characters that’ll want Kane to either by their Slave, a servant (which are two different things) and romances, which are Junko, Claudia, Veronica and Olivia (might change in the future)… oh and there’s that path where Kane doesn’t choose anyone and goes to action to where the side characters can bid for him

Sorry, seems that my english is terrible.

i'm refereing a character like Sub Kane if he no entered the Karlsson company, as it seems the state of the world he would end dead in a dark street or in a very bad place.
So her mother maybe think he would live a better life at the Karlsson company as K "employer"

 

[Maviarab]

the example is subk5 when at the moment the secret sub path is subk7, who knows, maybe i'm reading too much

Is the same path. SubK7 is as high as you can currently get on the SecretSub or SubK5+ path. it's called the SubK5+ path because you start the game as a sub at K4.

 

[PickerLewd]

Ppfffshh bunch of amateurs around here...3 to 4? Pfff...

Hey, I am currently on my third save (K8, K4 and now by popular demand, the K5 secret sub path) .

I discarded ED after a few updates not my cup of tea, the girls are hot but what can i do

Well, I liked it so much that I ended up getting mad at myself, wondering why the hell I was playing abandoned stuff . Definitely in my top 10 on F95 .

I take that sentence to mean, going forward, a M1+ or Z1+ Kane will have more autonomy, will do things 'on his own'...will do things with other female characters that are 'beneath him', but there will be no 'authority' figure above us present in the scene.

Kane, is finally starting to take control of his life and do shit away from the board.

The first thing I would do is remove the bloody chip that produces pain and electricity, and then I would bring feminine pads to the girls in my pod .
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Silver_Crow117 Can you imagine there being something else underneath K1? I remember we all thought that above K10 was Z1 and Tess came out and invented the M ranks .

 

[Lazarusrv]

Is the same path. SubK7 is as high as you can currently get on the SecretSub or SubK5+ path. it's called the SubK5+ path because you start the game as a sub at K4.

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[sgenter]

K9 is the hard cap that the dev felt was appropriate storywise, you can't go beyond it at this stage of the game. We should be able to go beyond K10 by the end of ep.8 part3.

Ahhh..... Tis what I thought. A Hard Coded Limit. Thanks for letting me know.