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It also has Grymm Gudinna and the first ninja as the first person when that fact has been confirmed regardless of who one thinks Grymm is
While it is never explicitly stated (at least not in-game), Ep 8 dialogue heavily implies the solution.

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ETA. referring to the person the "Gambit Queen" referred to as "Ms. Grymm Gudinna." I have no idea who/what Ninja 1 or 2 are referring to, nor who they might be.
 
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If Olivia has more sub points and your Kane has more dom points, then ecentually, Olivia is planned to be submissive towards a dominant Kane but this is in the future, not happening as of yet, as Kane is still a slave currently and not even out of the K tracks. Once Kane gets into the Exucutive track this is planned to start happening.

For now, for the most part, the points for Olivia are does she impose her will and stand her ground, or does she let everyone steam-roller over her and push her around.
So I assume if I'm trying to prepare for future updates to be dom over everyone including Olivia I make her do mostly sub choice? Sorry if we can't be sure yet. Just trying to get my stuff in order as I don't usually have much time to replay vns so I try to do what I can as I playthrough once on different saves
 
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Ninja 1 and 2 are different people. I believe we can all agree that Veronica isnt 1
I'm not sure what characters "Ninja 1" and "Ninja 2" refer to in-game, so I don't have any ideas who they might be.
My "fearful symmetry" spoilers above were referring to the person the "Gambit Queen" referred to as "Ms. Grymm Gudinna."
 

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I'm not sure what characters "Ninja 1" and "Ninja 2" refer to in-game, so I don't have any ideas who they might be.
My "fearful symmetry" spoilers above were referring to the person the "Gambit Queen" referred to as "Ms. Grymm Gudinna."
Ninja 1 is the first meeting between grymm and Callista, Ninja 2 is the second meeting between callista and an unknown woman who isn't Grymm. Masks, clothing style and tess herself tells us they're different people.
 
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Ninja 1 is the first meeting between grymm and Callista, Ninja 2 is the second meeting between callista and an unknown woman who isn't Grymm. Masks, clothing style and tess herself tells us they're different people.
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Okay, you're going to have to provide some screencaps or images or something.

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Fuck. I might need to reconsider everything I know about this game.
Including whether it is even worth playing.



FUCK.
I might've confused you, my apologies. In my initial posts, I referred to the two women in masks as ninjas, Kiyomi is just Kiyomi for the sake of this conversation. The one in the temple that talks to Callista but doesn't meet her in person is Grymm.
The one that meets Callista by the boat was confirmed to be Veronica during this last update as you pointed out.
 
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I might've confused you, my apologies. In my initial posts, I referred to the two women in masks as ninjas, Kiyomi is just Kiyomi for the sake of this conversation. The one in the temple that talks to Callista but doesn't meet her in person is Grymm.
The one that meets Callista by the boat was confirmed to be Veronica during this last update as you pointed out.

You probably want to use some inline spoilers for those that don't want to know yet.

However, if they were different people, then...
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This line seems to EXPLICITLY imply that the player has seen these characters "at the boat" and "at our prior talk."
 

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BTW. I don't know who is involved in the creation of this game and who is a fan.
I have limited experience with the Patreon and the Discord.

I am just working based what is in the game itself.
 
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Do you have any brothers to help teach me how to get the protagonist's K1 level in Chapter 8
Just screw up as much as possible and be as pathetic as you can. Ask yourself the question - 'which response/action will piss the evil bitches the most?' and go with that option, and you'll be a K1 in no time.
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Alternatively, play with Sancho-mod, it's great.
 
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They are commonly referred to as white tips and red tips ninja's.

They are very different people. Common assumption is that white tips is Alessandra (not confirmed). Red tips is confirmed as Veronica.
 

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While it is never explicitly stated (at least not in-game), Ep 8 dialogue heavily implies the solution.

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ETA. referring to the person the "Gambit Queen" referred to as "Ms. Grymm Gudinna." I have no idea who/what Ninja 1 or 2 are referring to, nor who they might be.
Our beautiful Goddess above has it right.

Btw, if you ever wish to message me directly you are free to do so. There is not very much I do not know about this VN and I know you have already been through my own charafcter list and timeline (thanks for the like btw). I'm always happy to help people clarify things and discuss KG.
 

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They are commonly referred to as white tips and red tips ninja's.

They are very different people. Common assumption is that white tips is Alessandra (not confirmed). Red tips is confirmed as Veronica.
I see, Mistress.
With all due respect, grovelling, and apologies.

Please forgive my error.
I assumed they were the same person in similar costumes. Being somewhat obsessed, I thus guess the non-obsessed casual player would assume that they are the same person in similar costumes.
However, since they are commonly referred as such, the confusion was clearly mine and mine alone.

If I may, with all due respect - not questioning the wisdom of the developers - make a small suggestion?

Perhaps someone ("Ninja 2"? "Red tips"?) shouldn't be among the "unidentified characters" in the Karlssons_Gambit_Ep_8_Relationship_Chart... and perhaps even in-game they should be referred to by a name/alias rather than:
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Please forgive my stupidity and confusion.

I pray I haven't overstepped my bounds.

I'll preemptively sit facing the corner, cleaning the grout with my toothbrush, awaiting your decision upon my behavior.
 
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I'll preemptively sit facing the corner, cleaning the grout with my toothbrush, awaiting your decision upon my behavior.
Good to see you know your proper place without me having to 'explain' it. Though I do LOVE such educational training, I see it is not required here ❤
If I may, with all due respect - not questioning the wisdom of the developers - make a small suggestion?

Perhaps someone ("Ninja 2"? "Red tips"?) shouldn't be among the "unidentified characters" in the Karlssons_Gambit_Ep_8_Relationship_Chart...
That has nothing to with myself or my good friend with his big, hard, shiny helmet. I shall get someone to bring up this issue with Tess though if it's not already been brought up. Thank you.
 
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Glad that everything's been cleared up to address your final concern:
You probably want to use some inline spoilers for those that don't want to know yet.

However, if they were different people, then...
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This line seems to EXPLICITLY imply that the player has seen these characters "at the boat" and "at our prior talk."
The first talk refers to their meeting in the park when Kane and Veronica were kids at the beginning of chapter six.
 
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