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VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

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Stan5851 said:
KG is the first Tess's game (I'm not taking into account side projects like the Game from her assistant and friend Anais, where Tess writes dialog/script)... And if we look at what is written on Tess's patreon page, we see a phrase that technically allows no other interpretation: "Grym Gudinna Games creating an adult femdom visual novel. (Karlsson's Gambit)."

And as far as I can tell from the posts of many Sub players writing here or, for example, in her Discord, KG is for them an "icon of the femdom" and a masterpiece. And I'm more than sure that most of these players consider the game deeply their own...

Another thing is that Tess managed to create a completely unique game, which many Dom players (including myself) also consider a masterpiece and deeply their game, despite any femdom orientations and other common stamps.
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Ah thankyou for pointing that out, i saw some guy (sexgamefreak) get completely railroaded for saying it was a Femdom game, so didn't want to make assumptions without taking on the experts information.
 
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Did we really lose the demon flag because Celeste could be more fuck up than Juliet not that I'm not complaining of course? :devilish: :devilish: :devilish: :devilish:
 
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Rufio said:
Ah thankyou for pointing that out, i saw some guy (sexgamefreak) get completely railroaded for saying it was a Femdom game, so didn't want to make assumptions without taking on the experts information.
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It's a matter of interpretation..From Tess's own point of view, as expressed by her in Discord, she considers real femdom to be the so-called SecretSub...That is, it's what she had to deal with (in the vast majority of cases) when she practiced femdom as a "Dominatrix" IRL. That is, when quite successful people, who had achieved quite a high social status in life, just wanted to let it go, to give up responsibility and feel subordinate to their "Mistress", as part of a mutually agreed upon power exchange game (BDSM).
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Stan5851 said:
It's a matter of interpretation..From Tess's own point of view, as expressed by her in Discord, she considers real femdom to be the so-called SecretSub...That is, it's what she had to deal with (in the vast majority of cases) when she practiced femdom as a "Dominatrix" IRL. That is, when quite successful people, who had achieved quite a high social status in life, just wanted to let it go, to give up responsibility and feel subordinate to their "Mistress", as part of a mutually agreed upon power exchange game (BDSM).
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Maviarab said:
Wrong emotes grrrr...

Yes....well aware....no one ever listens to me though lol.
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Mav, you're damn right, in that regard I just can't help but think of that phrase of yours.. ;)
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Difference with some folk. When I'm blunt, put people straight, educate, I'm conceited and a bully apparently. When Tess does it in her Discord Channel or on Patreon, she a Goddess...
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Well, it happens. And while you still won't become a Goddess (us guys aren't as attractive as the opposite sex, haha:p;)), the amount of knowledge you're willing to share with players still deserves respect...

I occasionally check out Tess's Discord and see you and Silver_Crow117 answering players' questions...and it doesn't surprise me anymore that Tess doesn't even have to step in and give her clarifications to your answers, because you both guys have a full grasp of the topic...So thank for this, you're saving Tess a lot of precious time that she can devote to further developing our favorite game.
 
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Silver_Crow117 said:
Who is this... for scientific research purposes...
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This is Goddess Raven, I would call her a true Dominatrix, hehe :sneaky:...and at the same time, the protagonist (provided that playing as Luna (female human MC) you choose the BadAss Bitch (Dom) route, which is canonical in this game...There are 2 other routes, among which is the submissive route, but there are their own endings, sharply different from the canon...
https://f95zone.to/threads/lunas-fall-from-grace-v0-33-public-frozen-synapse.72741/
 
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Dipping my toe in this out of curiosity more than anything else...the femdom/not femdom argument comes down to consent, yes? Kane can't exactly consent to a lot of this stuff, so it's not femdom? Kane consents to secret sub things, with multiple windows to back out (at the cost of demotion and Allesandra hatred).

Not what I expected to type when I woke up this morning.
 
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jadepaladin said:
Dipping my toe in this out of curiosity more than anything else...the femdom/not femdom argument comes down to consent, yes? Kane can't exactly consent to a lot of this stuff, so it's not femdom? Kane consents to secret sub things, with multiple windows to back out (at the cost of demotion and Allesandra hatred).

Not what I expected to type when I woke up this morning.
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Exactly it comes down to content and consent but in a sexual manner. Femdom as a term is a pretty modern term, much the same as the acronym BDSM. But all definitions of femdom come down to being sexual and within the BDSM umbrella.

So given that, hether some folk want to accept it or not, the vast bulk of scenes within KG do not constitute femdom, one because most scenes are not sexual in nature and two because without consent, without explicit willingness to submit....there cannot be any femdom.

You've seen the arguments here I'm sure, as a practicing dominant for longer than the term BDSM has been around (and coincidentally I was taught by a dominatrix heh), I don't really need to prove anything to anyone here because as I repeatedly say, very little femdom with the exception of on the SecretSub route where Kane does have the opportunity to say no to Alessandra on numerous occasions. To also add, Master/Slave is what we see mostly in KG but even then, within BDSM, the slave has still explicitly consented to be treated as such. Is that what we see here? No, it isn't.

Perhaps some folk wish or think the term means something other than it's official and dictionary term...who knows but it is a hill I will very much die on
 
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