VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[MagicMan753]

yeah understandably femdom is niche, i believe it comes down to the "natural human behaviour" and such

sure there are actually people who enjoy it ,but i don't think a lot people who'd be into it to the extreme end as displayed in the VN at some points.
(i didn't fully play the sub path fully out , got about half way but had game invite from a friend and well i was just waiting for excuse to drop it)

are there guys who'd be into the Sub path like here in KG? sure but not enough to make a commercial succes.
smart off Tess to actually to add in the Dom route and not make it pure Femdom it does open the door for people who normally won't be interested in that type off content to give it shot (like it did for me)

It's not niche at all, in fact it's a majority of players for this game are sub players. It's just that sub players don't speak up or comment on forums. So you say not a lot of people when actually sub players are the majority of players

As for being a commercial success Tess, doesn't care about the money, she has another job, which rakes in more. She even considered dropping the game after some peopel did things to upset her. In fact after this she plans to make a full on Femdom game again.(Didn't mention if will have dom route but from sounds of it, it won't.)

As for what is and isn't femdom, I am not going to get into that argument, cause there a couple of idiots I have ignored that try to spew their nonsense, try to make a Canon for the game themselves. Those idiots are so tight with Tess, they even got kicked out of the discord by her, thank God, I don't have to deal with them there.

So I think it's Femdom, I am not going to stop people thing what they want or believe, but their are people who will try push their bullshit opinions on others and think they are right when in actuality they know nothing.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Sub question: Does Jake/Zach have more importance on the sub path because on the dom path there's opportunities to either lose or gain those but they don't seem to have any effect on the game so far

Yes, there's more importance with Jake and Zack in the sub path because of how intergral they are in that play style (since you interact with them more...)

 

[jadepaladin]

Who has more point opportunities overall: Kwame, Jake, or Zach?

Intuition leans towards Jake having the most, then Kwame, then Zach.

Dom Kane might have need of Kwame points down the line but it's hard to imagine needing Zach points at all. Pretty sure Zach points are strictly tied to his pod performance and not a relationship with Kane, unlike the other two. Jake points will come into play since even on Dom paths you get the K-pass question which awards points if you don't demote him.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Who has more point opportunities overall: Kwame, Jake, or Zach?

Intuition leans towards Jake having the most, then Kwame, then Zach.

Dom Kane might have need of Kwame points down the line but it's hard to imagine needing Zach points at all. Pretty sure Zach points are strictly tied to his pod performance and not a relationship with Kane, unlike the other two. Jake points will come into play since even on Dom paths you get the K-pass question which awards points if you don't demote him.

Probs different on the sub run through but on the dom run through, you pretty much benefit by pushing Jake away. Other than the beginning when you can get Jake to "suffer" for you if you feed him, there's no benefit to helping him out and plenty of benefit from shunning him/ screwing him over

 

[jadepaladin]

Probs different on the sub run through but on the dom run through, you pretty much benefit by pushing Jake away. Other than the beginning when you can get Jake to "suffer" for you if you feed him, there's no benefit to helping him out and plenty of benefit from shunning him/ screwing him over

There isn't much benefit at the moment to helping Jake on a dom route at the moment. I think Tess has to use them at some point on some path because op the K-pass situation is the end of ep 4, when Kane is well on his way to climbing the ladder. There's no reason to toss points here if Jake is going to be a non-factor. Same with the most recent update, and using Kelly to taunt him with the food. Useless point deduction if Jake isn't going to come into play.

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[Stan5851]

yeah understandably femdom is niche, i believe it comes down to the "natural human behaviour" and such

sure there are actually people who enjoy it ,but i don't think a lot people who'd be into it to the extreme end as displayed in the VN at some points.
(i didn't fully play the sub path fully out , got about half way but had game invite from a friend and well i was just waiting for excuse to drop it)

are there guys who'd be into the Sub path like here in KG? sure but not enough to make a commercial succes.
smart off Tess to actually to add in the Dom route and not make it pure Femdom it does open the door for people who normally won't be interested in that type off content to give it shot (like it did for me)

This guy is a local lunatic, don't take him and the nonsense he spouts seriously...We don't have exact data on the ratio of Dom to Sub players, but according to indirect data from one of the global surveys/poll Tess did, Dom players are about as many (or even slightly more) than Sub players.

 

[Stan5851]

Talking about the ratio of Dom to Sub players. The data is indirect, but overall quite revealing.

Final Results from the poll top 3

1st.I play the dom path and prefer a more normal/dominant harem/romance gaining power Kane without extreme evil. - 97

2nd.I like the sub path, prefer a mix of extreme and gentle - 72

3rd. I play the dom path, and like the extreme evil path, absolutely would miss it. - 67

 

[Maviarab]

Talking about the ratio of Dom to Sub players.

They will still argue with it Stan. Probably tell you to break a mirror or other such idiot unbalanced nonsense.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Does it really matter how many dom players there are compared to sub players/Vice versa? Stop with this unnecessary arguing and just enjoy the game as it is guys… good lord… otherwise the mods will purge this forum…again

 

[HiHaHo]

Does it really matter how many dom players there are compared to sub players/Vice versa? Stop with this unnecessary arguing and just enjoy the game as it is guys… good lord… otherwise the mods will purge this forum…again

i doubt the mods will purge any off the recent messages were on topic and pretty civil about it all.maybe the bit about Tess's discord but i doubt the mods will bother with that

and these discussion are natural with KG as the avn it is.
ether path you take is fine, its not as simple "one is better then the other" we all like different things for different reasons.
but it will lead to certain discussions and conflicting opinions ,apparently even down to the finer details like how much femdom is actually in the game.

as long as noone has a super emotional response and says:"you're just a attention seeking bitch"
it should be drama free ,after all we're just discussing opinions

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Who has more point opportunities overall: Kwame, Jake, or Zach?

Intuition leans towards Jake having the most, then Kwame, then Zach.

Dom Kane might have need of Kwame points down the line but it's hard to imagine needing Zach points at all. Pretty sure Zach points are strictly tied to his pod performance and not a relationship with Kane, unlike the other two. Jake points will come into play since even on Dom paths you get the K-pass question which awards points if you don't demote him.

For sub side, Jake and Zach will have the opportunity to get the same points technically since the Kane will have the majority of the outcome to those characters during the gameshow (die/live/K-Level Placement)

 

[Silver_Crow117]

i doubt the mods will purge any off the recent messages were on topic and pretty civil about it all.maybe the bit about Tess's discord but i doubt the mods will bother with that

and these discussion are natural with KG as the avn it is.
ether path you take is fine, its not as simple "one is better then the other" we all like different things for different reasons.
but it will lead to certain discussions and conflicting opinions ,apparently even down to the finer details like how much femdom is actually in the game.

as long as noone has a super emotional response and says:"you're just a attention seeking bitch"
it should be drama free ,after all we're just discussing opinions

Gosh thank you for expressing that beautiful statement!! I didn’t know any of the in and outs of the forum till now !! sub side still better

 

[HiHaHo]

Gosh thank you for expressing that beautiful statement!! I didn’t know any of the in and outs of the forum till now !! sub side still better

you're welcome

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[MilesEdgeworth]

Does it really matter how many dom players there are compared to sub players/Vice versa? Stop with this unnecessary arguing and just enjoy the game as it is guys… good lord… otherwise the mods will purge this forum…again

Only person that info legit matters to is tess for financial reasons.

I wonder if Anais's game is gonna have a similar split

 

[Rufio]

Talking about the ratio of Dom to Sub players. The data is indirect, but overall quite revealing.

yeah, the full poll was super revealing.

Full poll results
I play the dom path, and love the extreme evil dom path and would be greatly upset losing it.
38


I play the dom path, and like the extreme evil path, absolutely would miss it.
67


I play the dom path and don't care too much about the extreme evil path. I won't miss it too much.
44


I play the dom path and prefer the good path.
47


I play the dom path and prefer a more normal/dominant harem/romance gaining power Kane without extreme evil.
97


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub path, but love the extreme evil path.
8


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, but like the extreme evil path.
13


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, don't care about extreme evil path.
18


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, prefer good path.
19


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, prefer normal assertive/dominant Kane gaining power/females path.
19


I play mostly/all sub path, but love the extreme evil dom path.
15


I play mostly/all sub path, but like the extreme evil dom path.
16


I play mostly/all sub path, but don't care about the extreme evil path.
25


I play mostly/all sub path, but prefer good dom path.
8


I play mostly/all sub path, but prefer normal Kane assertive/dominant harem/romance path.
13


I play mostly all/sub path, completely ignore the dom path except secret sub
37


I play mostly all/sub path, completely ignore dom path entirely.
23


Side ask from here o n down for research: I like the sub path, prefer more extreme content
59


I like the sub path, prefer a mix of extreme and gentle
72


I like the sub path, prefer a more gentle path generally
19

Dom Options - 293 votes
Sub options - 364 votes

But i suppose it does look very different when you show 3 of the 20 options. Gerrymandering is super powerful with data.

 

[Stan5851]

yeah, the full poll was super revealing.



Dom Options - 293 votes
Sub options - 364 votes

But i suppose it does look very different when you show 3 of the 20 options. Gerrymandering is super powerful with data.

Firstly, as I said, it's indirect data, and secondly, your numbers don't add up if only because many options allow both paths, which you quickly relegated to purely sub options. So if we want to know the exact ratio of players, we need to do a simple poll on whether you consider yourself a Dom player, a Sub player, or prefer both routes.

Although even here some discrepancies are possible, for example, in which category of players to put those who prefer both options...Anyway, Tess was amazed by the results of this poll, she even wrote something like that she will have to think and reconsider some of her views on the game...I mean, for her it was a shock to find out how many Dom players were among the patrons of her game. So I suggest we stop the unnecessary demagoguery and take Silver's advice.

Does it really matter how many dom players there are compared to sub players/Vice versa? Stop with this unnecessary arguing and just enjoy the game as it is

 

[Stan5851]

Kinda disappointed that there is no rank up for mc in this update

To be fair, the fact that the awarding of Kane's new rank will only take place in the final of Ep8 (pt3) was written back in the walkthrough for the Ep7..So if you read it, this shouldn't come as a surprise to you. And it's not logical to assign a rank when the game show is in the middle of its run (and for the Dom players, this show has essentially just begun) and DomKane still has a lot of important decisions to make that will affect his final grade.

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[Rufio]

Firstly, as I said, it's indirect data, and secondly, your numbers don't add up if only because many options allow both paths, which you quickly relegated to purely sub options. So if we want to know the exact ratio of players, we need to do a simple poll on whether you consider yourself a Dom player, a Sub player, or prefer both routes.

Although even here some discrepancies are possible, for example, in which category of players to put those who prefer both options...Anyway, Tess was amazed by the results of this poll, she even wrote something like that she will have to think and reconsider some of her views on the game...I mean, for her it was a shock to find out how many Dom players were among the patrons of her game. So I suggest we stop the unnecessary demagoguery and take Silver's advice.

Oh you mean all the "i play PRIMARILY for secret SUB"? My bad, i thought secret sub path was a sub thing for sub players because of the sub name. Didn't mean to so quickly relegate that.

All your points are valid about the usefulness of the poll, which is why showing the three options (mode) make it look like there are more dom players yet when you use the full data there are more sub players on average (mean). The only thing worse than a small pool of data, is a cherry picked view of a small pool of data.

 

[Stan5851]

MilesEdgeworth, who's next on your "VS" list?

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

MilesEdgeworth, who's next on your "VS" list?

Amara (Kwame's wife) vs Amy

Im def in the minority here, but Im picking Amara