VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[jadepaladin]

I miss the days of theory crafting and Temu Olivia renders.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Literally the only things about this game that might be considered woke is the fact that it has black characters and your ability to determine Olivia's sexuality. I don't think that way but those are the only examples that remote fit under the "woke" umbrella.

 

[Stan5851]

So like… how is Kg related to being “Woke” ? Like this seems like some far reaching off topic theory

Silver, are you the one to talk? You're a regular participant in Tess's Discord, where most of the messages from her admirers are completely off-topic and informational garbage. In this sense, our KG thread is the gold standard of the chamber of weights and measures.

 

[DoverDad]

I have no problem playing as a female, or that there are black people, or being gay in this game. Let me ask you this: what route got water down or removed because in 2025 it is seen as problematic, was it the sub route, or was it the dom route?

You can call me whatever the fuck you want, i got my opinion and you got yours, and yes, Tess can add or remove what she likes because she's the dev, but that dosn't mean that I have to be happy about it.

 

[Sharpshooter890]

I miss the days of theory crafting and Temu Olivia renders.

Yeah, let's talk how great a tag-team action of Phoebe and Jules would be. I don't even care if it's K1 or K9,

Spoiler: just

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We've got some renders already, so hopefully it's happening, and not just some teasing of that old fart in a wheelchair.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I have no problem playing as a female, or that there are black people, or being gay in this game. Let me ask you this: what route got water down or removed because in 2025 it is seen as problematic, was it the sub route, or was it the dom route?

You can call me whatever the fuck you want, i got my opinion and you got yours, and yes, Tess can add or remove what she likes because she's the dev, but that dosn't mean that I have to be happy about it.

Me neither I actually like it. If that makes me too "woke,
so be it.

Evil dom likely because she didnt like thinking of ways to kill people that didnt go over the line from Sexy to sadistic but her official reason are that some of her sick followers went too far in recommending stuff on that path and what they wanted to do to the Karlssons.

 

[Stan5851]

I would like to pose another question.

Spoiler

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[Don Sucio]

Thread seems... Different?
I don't follow very much the game now but, how have we passed from theories and spicy renders to this?

I have never seen this game like a woke game, come on guys. It's just femdom.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Good lord I just asked a question and the aggression is unreal… anyways

Spoiler: Nadia looks nice here

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[Stan5851]

Thread seems... Different?
I don't follow very much the game now but, how have we passed from theories and spicy renders to this?

I have never seen this game like a woke game, come on guys. It's just femdom.

When it comes to theorycrafting, we've already discussed everything there is to discuss, and I think that's the problem. Yes, I would love to return to those glorious days, but for now, things are quiet. Perhaps after the new update is released, there will be interesting topics for discussion and debate.

Our group chat, where the last message dates back to April 2025, can also be considered an indicator of the decline and, in part, the loss of interest in the game...

So I want to believe that the new update will be that breath of fresh air that will bring active players back to the fold of theoretical research, solving plot mysteries, and the like. Although I'm not too hopeful about it...Maybe the golden days of KG are long gone..Anyway, time will tell.

 

[Jstforme]

I think Tess severely underestimated just how many people preferred the evil dom Kane route. Getting back at the Karlson women for all the f'd up things they have done and still do, turning their evil back on them was what got me into the game...now that's being watered down and or removed...well it was a great game while it lasted, femdom crap has as much appeal to me as watching grass grow.

 

[rai1230]

I think Tess severely underestimated just how many people preferred the evil dom Kane route. Getting back at the Karlson women for all the f'd up things they have done and still do, turning their evil back on them was what got me into the game...now that's being watered down and or removed...well it was a great game while it lasted, femdom crap has as much appeal to me as watching grass grow.

even though i love femdom i also love maldom and a good revenge story so i get your point its sad that we wont get to see an ending where the MC just goes full on scorched earth mood on the whole organization hopefully in the future sone can make a story like that

 

[Don Sucio]

When it comes to theorycrafting, we've already discussed everything there is to discuss, and I think that's the problem. Yes, I would love to return to those glorious days, but for now, things are quiet. Perhaps after the new update is released, there will be interesting topics for discussion and debate.

Our group chat, where the last message dates back to April 2025, can also be considered an indicator of the decline and, in part, the loss of interest in the game...
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So I want to believe that the new update will be that breath of fresh air that will bring active players back to the fold of theoretical research, solving plot mysteries, and the like. Although I'm not too hopeful about it...Maybe the golden days of KG are long gone..Anyway, time will tell.

Indeed…

Somehow I’ve been visiting this website less and less… But lately I’m quite back, and it’s true I’ve never seen this thread so quiet. Still, that’s normal: we’ve been here for such a long time, through so many chapters… And maybe our hype has faded with time, at least mine has. I think it’s really difficult to keep a game entertaining through so many chapters like this one. This particular game is a challenge for a dev because it can get very repetitive, and in a world where nudes and sex are the norm, it’s hard to get people excited like the very first time.

As you said, we’ll see. This was one of the first games I discovered here on F95 and I have good memories of it (and I still do), thanks to the people here too. So let’s just see how it goes and enjoy the rest of the ride. I’m still waiting for that Kane and Olivia spicy scene, so… there’s still a ride left for me yet.

 

[Stan5851]

its sad that we wont get to see an ending where the MC just goes full on scorched earth mood on the whole organization hopefully in the future sone can make a story like that

It's not necessarily that the canceled finale with DomKane and Kiyomi (whose cancellation, by the way, is also in question because her fiancé and Anais are against it, and Tess wrote that she would think about it) in a very specific/rare World State D was the only one in which the entire organisation falls apart.

Therefore, I believe that it is still possible to shape Dom Kane's path in a certain way, in which there will be room for revenge.As far as I can tell, the “problem” was not in allowing players to destroy this despotic system, but in Kiyomi herself as a character, whose romance with D. Kane was canceled for some reason (before it even began). So I suppose that revenge is still possible, provided that the dev does not radically change her views on the whole story.

 

[motseer]

Indeed…

Somehow I’ve been visiting this website less and less… But lately I’m quite back, and it’s true I’ve never seen this thread so quiet. Still, that’s normal: we’ve been here for such a long time, through so many chapters… And maybe our hype has faded with time, at least mine has. I think it’s really difficult to keep a game entertaining through so many chapters like this one. This particular game is a challenge for a dev because it can get very repetitive, and in a world where nudes and sex are the norm, it’s hard to get people excited like the very first time.

As you said, we’ll see. This was one of the first games I discovered here on F95 and I have good memories of it (and I still do), thanks to the people here too. So let’s just see how it goes and enjoy the rest of the ride. I’m still waiting for that Kane and Olivia spicy scene, so… there’s still a ride left for me yet.

I don't think it's terribly profound that there is, currently, less activity in the thread. Rather, it's typical. It's a type of "law of diminishing return". Immediately after an update the conversation is intense and participation is high. As the time goes on before the next update, the amount of participation and enthusiasm diminishes. If you made a graph, I think you would also see that this pattern gradually increases in magnitude and duration as update after update both increase in number and time between. Things will pick up again after the next one, I'm quite certain.

 

[Stan5851]

I don't think it's terribly profound that there is, currently, less activity in the thread. Rather, it's typical. It's a type of "law of diminishing return". Immediately after an update the conversation is intense and participation is high. As the time goes on before the next update, the amount of participation and enthusiasm diminishes. If you made a graph, I think you would also see that this pattern gradually increases in magnitude and duration as update after update both increase in number and time between. Things will pick up again after the next one, I'm quite certain.

From a formal and technical point of view, you are right. The only question is whether our enthusiasm (which prevailed here before) for the game itself will return.

 

[motseer]

From a formal and technical point of view, you are right. The only question is whether our enthusiasm (which prevailed here before) for the game itself will return.

I'd say, in part, that depends on how many things we were right about, how many things we were wrong about, how much either one gratifies or surprises us, respectively, and if any of them manage to sneak up on us. Just another day in the life of the creative mind's virtual world...

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I'd say, in part, that depends on how many things we were right about, how many things we were wrong about, how much either one gratifies or surprises us, respectively, and if any of them manage to sneak up on us. Just another day in the life of the creative mind's virtual world...

Barring another masked figure, I believe most of the big questions have been answered or are known. The only debates thats happening nowadays is whether or not Olivia is a secret agent.

Here's a question thats a few years too late and Im sure Ive approached before. So we all know there won't be incest in this game because Tess abhors it, however it obviously comes down to the person but Olivia Kane would be as close to incest as can be without meeting the legal definition. Sure, they're not blood related, but they were still raised as brother and sister. Nadia Kane werent raised together, hell barely know each other yet they are blood related. So my ultimate question is which is weirder Kane/Olivia or Kane/Nadia?

 

[kinkyshin]

Indeed…

Somehow I’ve been visiting this website less and less… But lately I’m quite back, and it’s true I’ve never seen this thread so quiet. Still, that’s normal: we’ve been here for such a long time, through so many chapters… And maybe our hype has faded with time, at least mine has. I think it’s really difficult to keep a game entertaining through so many chapters like this one. This particular game is a challenge for a dev because it can get very repetitive, and in a world where nudes and sex are the norm, it’s hard to get people excited like the very first time.

As you said, we’ll see. This was one of the first games I discovered here on F95 and I have good memories of it (and I still do), thanks to the people here too. So let’s just see how it goes and enjoy the rest of the ride. I’m still waiting for that Kane and Olivia spicy scene, so… there’s still a ride left for me yet.

My hype hasn't faded at all, in fact it's the opposite. A long while back when KG didn't have very many chapters, I remember being pretty underwhelmed and thinking that this AVN was goofy as hell with how the women acted. I understand some people being upset about the evil dom route being gutted, but other than that I think the AVN has only gotten better with each update. My only real problem with the story now is that I get too immersed from Kane's perspective and I get mad lol (especially on the sub route). I didn't understand why everyone hated Cersei and Joffrey so much back when GoT was huge but now I fucking get it. We need justice for both Kane and Thad Howardson.

Barring another masked figure, I believe most of the big questions have been answered or are known. The only debates thats happening nowadays is whether or not Olivia is a secret agent.

Eh, I actually feel like this particular debate hasn't happened in a while. The last update is pretty much proof that Olivia was the daughter at Alexander's deathbed. And even if you somehow think that she wasn't the daughter at his deathbed, Callista still spoke to her about some things, meaning she definitely knows more than she has pretended (both to other characters and to the readers). So the 'secret agent' isn't really a theory at this point, it's just a matter of how much she knows. Tess said that Callista "certainly didn't tell her everything", but she didn't mention what Alexander could've told her.

There's still plenty of unanswered questions, but the problem is that they always just lead to the same point, which is... that we simply don't have enough evidence yet.

 

[harsha_26]

Well, considering this, it is now at least clear why a secondary character suddenly gained "immortality", joining V and Astrid. Because before that, I had no reasonable explanation for why Delilah suddenly deserved such a honor.

Yeah, Tess always indirectly talks about Veronica as great and all and identifies with her with personality etc and Anais for Delilah. No wonder they have made their alter-egos as immortal. Only astrid is somewhat believable character that will have a future in TQA.