VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

They're all good. But my fave so far is the secret sub route on the dom route. But going for K1 rank is fun as well. Hoping I get to see Kane get killed by one of these hot bitches at k1 soon, lol. This really is a game where I will replay until I have seen every single screen though.

I wouldn't consider the secret route a sub route though. That's just a sexual route isn't it. I'm talking actual sub routes, I have a multitude of saves for domKane done already.

Depends on what rank you wanna get… being defiant gets you pretty much k1… Getting k2-3 is like being somewhat defiant but not entirely (slave routes) and k4 is pretty much (I think) the servant type routes!.. and Pi hoped you played the sub routes instead of looking at the images… there’s a lot more to the story then you would think… Anyways, I got a bunch of saves- k1, k2-4 with a Sponsorship from Juliette or Dominique, one holding out for other sponsorships to come… good and evil sub Kane saves… (because some characters will only accept a good sub Kane and some will accept evil sub Kane)… also… sponsorships can save you from… unfortunate events…

Hehe...is the content drastically different from say K3 and K4? Enough to warrant a different save? I was really only thinking about being a good little subby boy and then having an antogonistic defiant sub save.

Also, yes...saving oneself from...unfortunate events'''is probably always a wise thing hahaha.

Same for me. A highlight for me is a Good K1 Kane with Evil Olivia, the contrast between the siblings is just wonderful to watch. Olivia is an absolute monster in that one, worse than Jules. But you really have to work to fail so hard as Kane, Sancho Mod/Walkthrough is a must.
Right now I'm in the process of getting to K3 before the first evaluation (Jules demotes to from K4 just because she can) and then climbing up through the ranks with 0 fuck-ups. I wanna see where I end up and what scenes I'll get.

Ohhh might have to try that one then lol...sounds....fun....

And yes, mod for this is probably one of only three mods I use, I generally dislike using them but as you say, for this it's a must for making sure you get on and stay on certain paths (even with the detailed PDF...I use both as a ref).

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Hehe...is the content drastically different from say K3 and K4? Enough to warrant a different save?

So in the last update at least you got 2 scenes. If you're K1, you get a K1 and K2 scenes, if K2 - K2 and K3, and so on until K4 gets to witness just how nice K5 life can be (relatively speaking).

 

[Silver_Crow117]

So in the last update at least you got 2 scenes. If you're K1, you get a K1 and K2 scenes, if K2 - K2 and K3, and so on until K4 gets to witness just how nice K5 life can be (relatively speaking).

And there’s even a sub k5 technically, but yeah, Honestly I have a save for each k1-4 but I think being good or evil will have a bigger impact along with sponsorships… like if you have choose Juliette for your sponsor, it’ll save you from getting killed by her… and maybe choosing her will maybe lock you into whatever faction she’s in? And only characters like, Claudia and Veronica, ect will open their routes to you if your a “good” Kane!… for evil sub Kane… you can guess who hahah

 

[Maviarab]

So in the last update at least you got 2 scenes. If you're K1, you get a K1 and K2 scenes, if K2 - K2 and K3, and so on until K4 gets to witness just how nice K5 life can be (relatively speaking).

Hmmm so 3 saves then min you would say (K1, 2/3 and 4)? I don't mind missing the odd scene, it's more how things play out on the different level sub routes I'm interested in seeing/knowing (plus specific thingts happening in the background you may not see on dom paths for my timeline which will be a little more detailed than the one on the new wiki).

 

[Stan5851]

I know we've had this conversation before, but I think we won't be able to turn Juliette into a slave. It's against her nature, unlike, say, Dominique or even Alessa. And we know that from the beginning of the game.
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So she will not submit. I really think she will off herself just to escape that fate. And that's why she's the best!
Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas.

It's against her nature, unlike, say, Dominique or even Alessa.

The more enjoyable it will be to break her. Juliette is probably the only character that my Kane will never have an equal relationship with, even in EvilDom route where it's assumed. So in her case it will either be forced slavery or, if that's not possible, she will go off to feed the fish in the ocean.

And we know that from the beginning of the game.

At the beginning we don't know much about the sisters' characters. We can learn something from the questions that Kane and Jack have to answer, but it's not enough to get a complete picture. As you know, Juliette's true character will be revealed later, after Kane gets into JoyFacility.

 

[Sharpshooter890]

At the beginning we don't know much about the sisters' characters. We can learn something from the questions that Kane and Jack have to answer, but it's not enough to get a complete picture. As you know, Juliette's true character will be revealed later, after Kane gets into JoyFacility.

True, however, the screenshot I provided gives some insight into her character. Kane can either try and crawl through the pain, defiant, or roll over and submit. She dislikes the submission option (there's a dialogue in K9 mansion in ep.7 that corroborates that), that's why I think we will have to kill her.
Some people aren't built to serve, so to speak, and I'm okay with that.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Hmmm so 3 saves then min you would say (K1, 2/3 and 4)? I don't mind missing the odd scene, it's more how things play out on the different level sub routes I'm interested in seeing/knowing (plus specific thingts happening in the background you may not see on dom paths for my timeline which will be a little more detailed than the one on the new wiki).

I would actually say that k2-4 will have different characters available to you as well… but then again there’s factions and Tess Said this

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[Maviarab]

I would actually say that k2-4 will have different characters available to you as well… but then again there’s factions and Tess Said this

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*slurps coffee*....hmmmm.....

 

[Stan5851]

True, however, the screenshot I provided gives some insight into her character. Kane can either try and crawl through the pain, defiant, or roll over and submit. She dislikes the submission option (there's a dialogue in K9 mansion in ep.7 that corroborates that), that's why I think we will have to kill her.
Some people aren't built to serve, so to speak, and I'm okay with that.

I viewed her service to Kane as a slave as punishment for what she did to other people (specifically, unmotivated brutal murders). But I agree that Juliette is not willing to submit voluntarily, which means that we have to do what needs to be done.

 

[zgaf]

Dude you lied to us. There is no male domination. I hated every second of the game. But but I kept going anyway because I thought I'd get revenge.

 

[Maviarab]

Dude you lied to us. There is no male domination. I hated every second of the game. But but I kept going anyway because I thought I'd get revenge.

As dumb a comment as all the idiot reviews that obviously never actually played all the VN, especially on the dom route, where btw, you are not actually a dom with submissives (until at least the last chapter and even then, it's not exactly black and white as currently you are still a slave).

No one lied, you just failed basic comprehension 101.

 

[zgaf]

As dumb a comment as all the idiot reviews that obviously never actually played all the VN, especially on the dom route, where btw, you are not actually a dom with submissives (until at least the last chapter and even then, it's not exactly black and white as currently you are still a slave).

No one lied, you just failed basic comprehension 101.

every decision I made was dominant, yet I couldn't do more than lick their feet and ass. Besides, I checked the gallery and there is no scene where we really dominated them. So I'm right.

 

[Maviarab]

every decision I made was dominant, yet I couldn't do more than lick their feet and ass. Besides, I checked the gallery and there is no scene where we really dominated them. So I'm right.

If you did that...you did not pick dominant options. Stop lying to people who know this VN far better than you do. On the dom route, you are not persecuted, you are not downtrodden, you are not mistreated and not once are you forced to lick anyone's ass or partake in any femdom scenes.

Go away little troll.

 

[Sharpshooter890]

So I managed to rise from K3 to K5 by the beginning of ep.6, but the only person that acknowledged this is Raven. Everyone else treats me as if I was on Dom path all along. Of course, the cockcage magically disappers as well. Oh, and I'm automatically on subK5 track, with Celeste/Alessa scene.
Btw, can we acknowledge just hot hot her outfit is? Such a lovely model, it should be used more.

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So, yeah, narratively, this K3/K4 going up path is the weakest out of all that I played, people just don't acknowledge that I got pegged the day before and treat me like I'm some macho. I wonder if similar is true for, say, K6 Kane screwing so hard he gets demoted to K4 or lower.

 

[Maviarab]

So I managed to rise from K3 to K5 by the beginning of ep.6, but the only person that acknowledged this is Raven. Everyone else treats me as if I was on Dom path all along. Of course, the cockcage magically disappers as well. Oh, and I'm automatically on subK5 track, with Celeste/Alessa scene.
Btw, can we acknowledge just hot hot her outfit is? Such a lovely model, it should be used more.

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So, yeah, narratively, this K3/K4 going up path is the weakest out of all that I played, people just don't acknowledge that I got pegged the day before and treat me like I'm some macho. I wonder if similar is true for, say, K6 Kane screwing so hard he gets demoted to K4 or lower.

1. Yes...yes she is hot...never denied that (Let's be honest, nearly every damn woman in KG is hot lmao, just variations and degrees of hotness). The dom scene with her and Celeste cucking her bf is seriously out of this world. She is a treasure for sure.
2. Hmmm...I wonder if that's something Tess never really considered would/could happen and the coding is not quite there for it to 'work' properly?

 

[zgaf]

It's a common misunderstanding, what it is to be a dom. A true dom must understand submission by experiencing it. If you call yourself a dom and never experienced submission...you're not a dom, you're just an asshole.

That was so rude. I've played a lot of games where we dominate and submissive, for example Blossom of Pleasure, Project Myriam, and dozens more. I've only played games where we dominate, for example Desert Stalker, Taffy Tales, Inside of you, and dozens more. I've only played games where we submissive, for example Earn your freedom, Femdom city.,Kidnapped by the Mistress. In these games the difference between dominating and submissive is very clear. In this game we seem to just obey. so the male dominance label is misleading

 

[Huurn]

That was so rude. I've played a lot of games where we dominate and submissive, for example Blossom of Pleasure, Project Myriam, and dozens more. I've only played games where we dominate, for example Desert Stalker, Taffy Tales, Inside of you, and dozens more. I've only played games where we submissive, for example Earn your freedom, Femdom city.,Kidnapped by the Mistress. In these games the difference between dominating and submissive is very clear. In this game we seem to just obey. so the male dominance label is misleading

If that is your experience you must have played the game differently than most of us I think. There is a very clear dom path in this game. But that does not mean you can dominate everyone how you please from the start. You start as a prisoner and must adapt accordingly. The game places an emphasis on being able to read the wants, expectations and intentions of the characters you meet. And understanding who has leverage in each situation. It is quite a bit more nuanced than most games when it comes to this. There are plenty opportunities to dominate, but not straight away.

 

[Maviarab]

Somebody is another fake wannabe dom. World and internet full of them. Let me educate you:

There is a distinct difference between being domineering, being dominant and actually being a Dominant. Obviously some/many people are incredibly oblivious to this difference (or just quite frankly don't care and/or think being domineering means being a Dom). Why many fetish sites and sub forums are filled with morons, fakes and wannabe's who think they are a dom but in reality are just clueless idiots. Being a dominant is not an act, it is a state of being, just as much as it is to be a submissive.

Now, to get back to Karlsson's Gambit. In order to be a dominant, one must have the respect and trust of a submissive. There is no way around it (unless you include slaves, who are not actually submissives). No one within the Karlsson Group (especially the board members) respects you enough (yet) to ever submit to you (at least in the current chapter of the story) and you are in fact still a slave yourself. So in KG, yes you can be dominant, but you are nowhere close to being 'a' dominant.

This is not a Dom/sub game...certainly not from a male perspective (yet perhaps), but you can be dominant enough to not be walked all over. Anyone failing to understand that either should not be here on this site, or not play this game due to a complete lack of understanding of dynamics and what this VN is actually about. Any misunderstanding of all that is entirely on the individual, not the VN.

My 2 pence worth.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

I truthfully like how for the sub playthrough, there’s characters that are going to want you for being good and have critical thinking and others that want you evil and critical thinking… and of course the opposite where others just want you submissively dumb Hahaha

 

[Stan5851]

If that is your experience you must have played the game differently than most of us I think. There is a very clear dom path in this game. But that does not mean you can dominate everyone how you please from the start. You start as a prisoner and must adapt accordingly. The game places an emphasis on being able to read the wants, expectations and intentions of the characters you meet. And understanding who has leverage in each situation. It is quite a bit more nuanced than most games when it comes to this. There are plenty opportunities to dominate, but not straight away.

You all wrote correctly, I can only add my 2 cents.

I sincerely don't understand the claims of this guy who, at the end of episode 6, can get 4 beautiful female slaves under his tutelage and a bunch of tempting career prospects, and at the end of episode 7, jump into his personal Bugatti Veyron with two hot chicks, one of whom is his personal virgin maid. And then, with the roar of the 1,000-horsepower engine and the squeal of tires, drive off into the sunset with the two hotties, partying and sipping champagne.

Tell me, what's wrong with this disgruntled guy? (this is a rhetorical question)