VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

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Stan5851

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Maviarab said:
As I said before....who is on the board...who is a slave? Who, despite being given a board position, is still being watched very closely and still has somewhat a precarious position herself?

I feel like you want to debate this point because you really don't want to accept, despite whether she loves Kane or not, she is not going to submit to him in his current situation and you firmly believe she should. No one would. Again, a promise...but Kane has to get higher to make that promise a reality.

You understand dynamics, no submissive or woman is ever going to submit to a man that is lesser than her (in her eyes), and despite all we say about Olivia, she does still have that power (and uses it often and enjoys it), while Kane does not. Do you respect Kane currently Stan? I sure as hell don't, so why should Liv? Again, why should she submit to a man so low down the food chain just because she growjn up with him?
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Maviarab said:
You understand dynamics, no submissive or woman is ever going to submit to a man that is lesser than her (in her eyes), and despite all we say about Olivia, she does still have that power (and uses it often and enjoys it), while Kane does not. Do you respect Kane currently Stan? I sure as hell don't, so why should Liv? Again, why should she submit to a man so low down the food chain just because she growjn up with him? Do you even recall Alessa's conversations on the SS route? Not really any different.
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I love how both sides of this debate make no sense. One of the most popular BDSM stereotypes is the CEO/politician sex scandal involving a dominatrix, golden showers and what have you. The spoiled princess falling in love with the social pariah bad boy is a staple in the romance/erotic genre. And getting the girl as a reward for proving one's mettle as a hero is extremely common across every medium and genre that has anything to do with romance/sex.
 
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Stan5851 said:
For starters, it would be nice to hear some evidence of his (Harry Von Reinach) guilt. So far we've had only vague hints from Phoebe and all we've been shown is sadistic bitches abusing that sick old man.
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Admittedly, we don't have any evidence, but I don't imagine that Phoebe would be so cool with torturing him like this without getting anything from it other than sadistic pleasure if he were innocent ( I believe his inheritance is going to the girls).
 
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MilesEdgeworth said:
Happy fathers day to Cole, Alexander, Kwame and whatever the name of that douchebag who's claudias father
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Yes, happy fathers day to the dead man that was murdered by his own child lol

MilesEdgeworth said:
Admittedly, we don't have any evidence, but I don't imagine that Phoebe would be so cool with torturing him like this without getting anything from it other than sadistic pleasure if he were innocent ( I believe his inheritance is going to the girls).
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It's being split 3 ways between his daughters and Phoebe. I believe it's all being split equally, but Celeste made a comment that implied Claudia would be getting more than her, so maybe not.

Harry is definitely guilty of doing something terrible to Phoebe's father, there's no reason for her to lie about that... Personally, I don't really care about what Harry did, but I've been very curious about Phoebe for a long time now.

1. She's claimed to be mentoring someone at the Karlsson Group, and while she said it's not a board member, she could be lying. I assume it could only be either Alessandra or Delilah.

2. She also made a weird comment a long time ago that she was going to become Kane's teacher... whatever happened with that lol

3. She made a comment that implied she was like Alessandra/Alyssa with their whole female-supremacy shtick.
 
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kinkyshin said:
Yes, happy fathers day to the dead man that was murdered by his own child lol


It's being split 3 ways between his daughters and Phoebe. I believe it's all being split equally, but Celeste made a comment that implied Claudia would be getting more than her, so maybe not.

Harry is definitely guilty of doing something terrible to Phoebe's father, there's no reason for her to lie about that... Personally, I don't really care about what Harry did, but I've been very curious about Phoebe for a long time now.

1. She's claimed to be mentoring someone at the Karlsson Group, and while she said it's not a board member, she could be lying. I assume it could only be either Alessandra or Delilah.

2. She also made a weird comment a long time ago that she was going to become Kane's teacher... whatever happened with that lol

3. She made a comment that implied she was like Alessandra/Alyssa with their whole female-supremacy shtick.
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Im still working under the theory that Alex ain't dead, just hidden for now. He likely found a cure and faked his death according to said theory.

She also knows about Kane's father. I don't imagine that's a wide known fact amongst outsiders and even if Harry knew that prior to getting sick I don't see him telling her that meaning she has some unknown importance to the Karlssons just don't know yet.
 
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MilesEdgeworth said:
Admittedly, we don't have any evidence, but I don't imagine that Phoebe would be so cool with torturing him like this without getting anything from it other than sadistic pleasure if he were innocent ( I believe his inheritance is going to the girls).
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It's just that after some of Celeste's revelations in the scene from 0.8.2, the proportionality of the punishment for this old man is highly questionable to me. So far it looks really fucked up and clearly not in Celeste's favor.
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MilesEdgeworth said:
Im still working under the theory that Alex ain't dead, just hidden for now. He likely found a cure and faked his death according to said theory.
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She also knows about Kane's father. I don't imagine that's a wide known fact amongst outsiders and even if Harry knew that prior to getting sick I don't see him telling her that meaning she has some unknown importance to the Karlssons just don't know yet.
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Lots of people know about who Kane's father is. Also, Phoebe and Cynthia are very close, it would be more surprising if she didn't know.
 
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MilesEdgeworth said:
It makes sense if you consider the fact that Alexander knows he fucked up and made Veronica way too powerful so he's trying to change things from the outside
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Veronica is the most intelligent woman on the planet, and she's been working tirelessly to cure Astrid, but hasn't yet been successful.

You're telling me Alexander found a cure? When? Last we saw of him (besides his death) was in episode 8 pt 2 was him being unable to even walk, stripped of all power, begging Veronica to help him find someone.

I'm all for crazy theories, but this is just nonsense lol
 
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kinkyshin said:
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Veronica is the most intelligent woman on the planet, and she's been working tirelessly to cure Astrid, but hasn't yet been successful.

You're telling me Alexander found a cure? When? Last we saw of him (besides his death) was in episode 8 pt 2 was him being unable to even walk, stripped of all power, begging Veronica to help him find someone.

I'm all for crazy theories, but this is just nonsense lol
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Who said they had the same disease? Are you saying that somehow Veronica accelerated the disease so that Alexander died faster than Seth, who had it for a while before Alexander?
Also, according to both Callista and Cole, Alexander was really smart. Not that much of a stretch that he could do so.
 
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Who said they had the same disease? Are you saying that somehow Veronica accelerated the disease so that Alexander died faster than Seth, who had it for a while before Alexander?
Also, according to both Callista and Cole, Alexander was really smart. Not that much of a stretch that he could do so.
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MilesEdgeworth said:
Yea theory still works. Nothing there changes anything about my theory. Besides no.1 rule of media, if you don't see the dead body of someone in the story, there's is probably reason for it.
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Even if there was a dead body, you would just say that it was a body double and that he's faked his death.
 
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