VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[akki_sky]

You only forgot the line of dialogue for the unfortunate slave locked under the bed, admiring the shoes .

I didn't even noticed him before you mention.

 

[Stan5851]

If this scene doesn't transition into a tap dancing sequence, I'll be extremely disappointed. I don't see any other reason to wear those ridiculous shoes
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[Stan5851]

I didn't even noticed him before you mention.

Yes, Silver knows how to be inconspicuous.

 

[DoverDad]

Before anybody asks, no, I won't be posting any links of any kind for the test or final verson of the game

 

[HiHaHo]

Before anybody asks, no, I won't be posting any links of any kind for the test or final verson of the game

that's fine we accept dm's

 

[DoverDad]

that's fine we accept dm's

Ever since I became a dad, my bank account has been looking rather empty these days

 

[HiHaHo]

Ever since I became a dad, my bank account has been looking rather empty these days

pretty sure that's the wife not the kid.

jokes aside ,all good man just means you got your priorities straight.

 

[harsha_26]

Yeah but all the scenes are like this, including for the dom females. The problem is the dev's expertise at 3d work in general is somewhat lacking. AI "enhancement" is not a solution either by the way. You either know how to pose, light etc properly or you don't. On the plus side her output is consistent (despite the neurotic episodes) and fills a niche. So who cares who calls the shots within the context of a fictional porn story? Just insert your own headcannon into individual scenes.

Or make your own porn. It's really not that hard and this dev is living proof of that fact.

Headcanon? I ready to headcanon but there is no scope for even headcanon too when the MC is not doing anything to imagine him as a strong man. I only ever liked one scene in evil dom truly and whole heartedly is, when he killed the thug who set him up in prison for which we got Demon Point. (although that thug is just a pawn). But yeah, beside that, I agree with what you said mostly.

 

[daffyrolls94]

Headcanon? I ready to headcanon but there is no scope for even headcanon too when the MC is not doing anything to imagine him as a strong man. I only ever liked one scene in evil dom truly and whole heartedly is, when he killed the thug who set him up in prison for which we got Demon Point. (although that thug is just a pawn). But yeah, beside that, I agree with what you said mostly.

He is unambiguously dominant in the evil dom path to underlings, but not with the top boss bitches. Or rather when he does it to them it's only if they give him permission and in the way they want him to do it. Which is technically not dominant, but I like that dynamic. A pure dom/sub binary is boring imo.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Yea, they're training Kane to be dominant, but I doubt they want him to be too dominant lest they create their father again

 

[motseer]

Ever since I became a dad, my bank account has been looking rather empty these days

Don't worry! It gets worse!


But you're glad you did it, cause it was worth it.

 

[Stan5851]

Yea, they're training Kane to be dominant, but I doubt they want him to be too dominant lest they create their father again

It seems to me that Alexander was never such a dominant figure...Rather, he was a broken man who had enough patience and intelligence to seize power, but whose mental health was undermined by the humiliation he suffered at the hands of these mysterious sadistic women.

Yes, it is possible that the loss of his child with Callista was the last straw for him, the trigger that finally drove him mad...but, imo, the foundation for this was laid by those very women. And, by the way, I would like to know how old Alexander was when all this happened...this whole program he participated in (obviously as a slave). Not to mention who these sadistic powerful women really were...Yeah, there is a theory that one of them was Alexander's sister, but we have no proof of that yet.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

It seems to me that Alexander was never such a dominant figure...Rather, he was a broken man who had enough patience and intelligence to seize power, but whose mental health was undermined by the humiliation he suffered at the hands of these mysterious sadistic women.

Yes, it is possible that the loss of his child with Callista was the last straw for him, the trigger that finally drove him mad...but, imo, the foundation for this was laid by those very women. And, by the way, I would like to know how old Alexander was when all this happened...this whole program he participated in (obviously as a slave). Not to mention who these sadistic powerful women really were...Yeah, there is a theory that one of them was Alexander's sister, but we have no proof of that yet.

Considering that this whole organization seems to be based on femdom, Im guessing that the mysterious women that put Alexander through all that was his sisters. From what we know, he didn't really start doing heinous stuff out in the open till they were gone. Im thinking he somehow overthrew them, probably killed off one of them and either exiled the other one or sent her running.
It's no coincidence that the one daughter that he sent away is the one that resembled his sister the most ( I imagine that she resembled the sisters as a kid as well).

That being said, I still think that they definitely don't want Kane becoming like Alexander once he gets the power. which is why as an executive, they're only giving him a taste of power and not the whole thing yet.

 

[Ricthequick]

Considering that this whole organization seems to be based on femdom, Im guessing that the mysterious women that put Alexander through all that was his sisters. From what we know, he didn't really start doing heinous stuff out in the open till they were gone. Im thinking he somehow overthrew them, probably killed off one of them and either exiled the other one or sent her running.
It's no coincidence that the one daughter that he sent away is the one that resembled his sister the most ( I imagine that she resembled the sisters as a kid as well).

That being said, I still think that they definitely don't want Kane becoming like Alexander once he gets the power. which is why as an executive, they're only giving him a taste of power and not the whole thing yet.

Is not just the organization, rather the whole setting (at least in the areas that are presented to the players), I still think that picking this AVN expecting a Maledom powerfantasy it was never a great idea.

I joined relatively late (AVNs in general), but even without reading Tess' comments/posts it was very clear that going the Kane dominant route would mean a slow burn, at least for what concerns the actual maledom aspects.

Not last because if Kane was really allowed to be THE dominant person, he'd be able to uncover everything rather quickly, as such bringing the whole AVN to an early end?

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[motseer]

...it was very clear that going the Kane dominant route would mean a slow burn, at least for what concerns the actual maledom aspects.

What? Slow burn? Kane has been in the program for a whole week! He's K9 if you want him to be... Good/Dom, Evil/Dom doesn't matter. He's five promotions from Z4! At the rate he's been going it will take 3 or 4 more days. That doesn't feel slow to me...
Jus' Sayin'

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Yea honestly being there for a week with his own slave, running his own group, and fucking and disciplining the sisters is quite impressive. He's not in an undominant position.

 

[Stan5851]

What? Slow burn? Kane has been in the program for a whole week! He's K9 if you want him to be... Good/Dom, Evil/Dom doesn't matter. He's five promotions from Z4! At the rate he's been going it will take 3 or 4 more days. That doesn't feel slow to me...
Jus' Sayin'

From a narrative perspective, I agree that his progress is quite noticeable.However, the issue is that Kane's progress from an unkempt convict in prison to a K9 ready to move on to K10->M+ has turned into a 5.5-year wait for players. And for me, this progress seems like an extremely slow burn.

And I'm even leaving aside Tess's hidden desire to protect (?) the game from possible complaints, feeding players “synthetic filler with the taste of remote vanilla domination” instead of a "full-fledged, baked piece of meat with the natural taste of maledom".

 

[Ricthequick]

What? Slow burn? Kane has been in the program for a whole week! He's K9 if you want him to be... Good/Dom, Evil/Dom doesn't matter. He's five promotions from Z4! At the rate he's been going it will take 3 or 4 more days. That doesn't feel slow to me...
Jus' Sayin'

What I mean is, if one goes the submissive way the action starts right away and, with minor difference based on choices, never stops (escalating to deeper submission or lingering in-between).

If one goes the dominant way there's action, but also plenty of folks in this thread who complain about how dom Kane is not really dominant, because he doesn;t do this or that, or because he always has other women still guiding/checking him.

I personally don't mind, it makes sense that even if he's K9 he's not allowed to do things on his own, or take relevant decisions.

EDIT: just to make it clear, this is personal opinion, I picked this AVN for the femdom aspect, and I'm happy with it, I enjoyed also the more "maledom" route, not last because I love AVNs with branching paths, but if I was just after "pure maledom" I'd have probably dropped it some updates ago.

 

[Stan5851]

Yea honestly being there for a week with his own slave, running his own group, and fucking and disciplining the sisters is quite impressive. He's not in an undominant position.

Yes, but the problem is that DomKane remains a follower rather than a leader, an independent player, which is what he should be. The game is already at least 60% complete, and Dom Kane is still a slave (yes, formally, but still). Okay, in this update, he will become K10 (and in the best-case scenario, most likely even M+), but we won't know for a long time whether this has changed anything and whether he has really become a player.

So, you know, I'd like to enjoy the fruits of Kane rise a little earlier than at the very end of the game, when he can become Z5...But so far, I see announcements of scenes in which "Dom"Kane again doesn't dominate a damn thing, but, as Harsha correctly put it, sits in a chair and waits for his mommy to come and pick him up.

 

[motseer]

...has turned into a 5.5-year wait for players. And for me, this progress seems like an extremely slow burn.

Well, yeah, I can't argue with that. Maybe I would just change the phrase "slow burn" to "lack of production". But! I hafta say..., so far, the price is right...