Stan5851

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It's not about katsumi or olivia. It's for Kane could be the next alexander and these words could be the best encouragement for evil dom players. Concentrate on words, not on girl.
Nevertheless, imo, we should not be misled and associate these words of Katsumi exclusively with the "EvilDom" route, which, moreover, has already largely ceased to be so. Her words about Z5 applies to "any" DomKane, even one who is not openly evil, but one who had the determination to accept Katsumi's offer to participate in the show as a co-host.

It is also true that there is no problem in choosing the “new evil route” (Juliette + Dominique+) and having only 7 evil pts, with the rest being 20+ good pts. Yes, these points, as we know, are not as important as they should be, but nevertheless, for such a “gray Dom Kane” walking this path, good decisions are still available (and do not contradict the moral principles of both Kane and Olivia), just as evil ones are...

Therefore, I perceive Katsumi's words more as her own desires. Yes, with enough persistence, they are quite achievable, she has no reason to lie, but in my opinion, obtaining the "Z5 Chairman" rank does not necessarily mean that DomKane must inevitably turn into a monster like Alexander was.

BTW, as far as I know, Alexander himself, even at the height of his reign, was never Z5, but only Z4, like the other members of the Board.
 
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MilesEdgeworth

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It's not about katsumi or olivia. It's for Kane could be the next alexander and these words could be the best encouragement for evil dom players. Concentrate on words, not on girl.
Unless he takes out Veronica, he would still be at the mercy of her just like Alexander was. Taking out veronica would be the dumbest thing he could ever do since that would not only take out the sister that would support him the most, it would also put the whole board and Astrid against him.
 

Ricthequick

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I think he is just a random npc and he's only there for the sake of the Olivia's first decision towards good or evil. He has the same model as one of Juliette's lapdogs.
Yep, still as MilesEdgeworth I was curious to see what might have happened to him afterwards, but that's just me, when there's enough lore and expanded setting I tend to get interested in extras/side characters.

For example I never understood why to keep telling Star Wars stories we should be forced to (almost) always follow the Skywalker/Palpatine saga, for f sake it's a whole universe, tell a story of some rando (even a random Jedi tbh) who has nothing to do with it... sorry for the rant. :HideThePain:
 

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Yep, still as MilesEdgeworth I was curious to see what might have happened to him afterwards, but that's just me, when there's enough lore and expanded setting I tend to get interested in extras/side characters.

For example I never understood why to keep telling Star Wars stories we should be forced to (almost) always follow the Skywalker/Palpatine saga, for f sake it's a whole universe, tell a story of some rando (even a random Jedi tbh) who has nothing to do with it... sorry for the rant. :HideThePain:
There's this game set in the Star Wars Universe which follows a random guy and also features a random Jedi. It's really good imo https://f95zone.to/threads/swm-the-lurking-shadow-v2-0-mortze.46344
 
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JJJ84

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Huh. Test version of the new update is out on Tess's Patreon?

Even if it somehow gets leaked here, I think I'm just gonna wait till Tess releases the final version of the update cause there could be significant changes between the test version and final version.
While it's not something which happens always, it is a possibility & I'd rather not be forced to repeat a playthrough.
 

harsha_26

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Nevertheless, imo, we should not be misled and associate these words of Katsumi exclusively with the "EvilDom" route, which, moreover, has already largely ceased to be so. Her words about Z5 applies to "any" DomKane, even one who is not openly evil, but one who had the determination to accept Katsumi's offer to participate in the show as a co-host.

It is also true that there is no problem in choosing the “new evil route” (Juliette + Dominique+) and having only 7 evil pts, with the rest being 20+ good pts. Yes, these points, as we know, are not as important as they should be, but nevertheless, for such a “gray Dom Kane” walking this path, good decisions are still available (and do not contradict the moral principles of both Kane and Olivia), just as evil ones are...

Therefore, I perceive Katsumi's words more as her own desires. Yes, with enough persistence, they are quite achievable, she has no reason to lie, but in my opinion, obtaining the "Z5 Chairman" rank does not necessarily mean that DomKane must inevitably turn into a monster like Alexander was.

BTW, as far as I know, Alexander himself, even at the height of his reign, was never Z5, but only Z4, like the other members of the Board.
Well ofcourse it depends on player what they do with Z5 (If Tess would have allowed, since it doomed anyway.), the words by katsumi i posted are just a hint in the game for those who oppose and says "there is never a clue or foreshadowing of overthrowing karlssons and take revenge".
 

harsha_26

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Unless he takes out Veronica, he would still be at the mercy of her just like Alexander was. Taking out veronica would be the dumbest thing he could ever do since that would not only take out the sister that would support him the most, it would also put the whole board and Astrid against him.
So either serve veronica or face the failed war. Ok then, war it is lol. But, I think evil dom Z5 is still viable as long as we ignore veronica. She wont stay in karlsson city and is been least bothered about it once gambit plan is executed. Remember what she said to dominique, She is willing to support even juli for gambit plan as long as one proves to her she is stable at her goals good or evil. Her plan is to build the island 4, make the gambit plan or revolution executed (depending on choices) and then leave the karlssons city to never return again, thus working on creating situations for the next game.
 
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