VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 FinalA2] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Silver_Crow117]

I suppose that there are no saints in our game, and no one is without sin, not even Junko...Though perhaps the only exception is Astrid, who refused to accept the evil Alexander poisoned his own daughters with.

Even Claudia, can be turned to the dark side... Miss Tess mentioned to me that originally, Claudia could only get corruption pts through k4 sub Kane and the paddle scene, but one of the branching changes she just made recently, was giving players the option to start gaining corruption pts with Claudia, no matter what rank your Kane is currently at (You don't have to go back and get that k4 scene) in this part. and the more corruption pts choices you pick the more evil Claudia will get.

Spoiler: Demoness Claudia heh

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[PickerLewd]

With Claudia's corruption we have bingo? i.e. no one is good anymore and they are all evil .

 

[Stan5851]

Even Claudia, can be turned to the dark side... Miss Tess mentioned to me that originally, Claudia could only get corruption pts through k4 sub Kane and the paddle scene, but one of the branching changes she just made recently, was giving players the option to start gaining corruption pts with Claudia, no matter what rank your Kane is currently at (You don't have to go back and get that k4 scene) in this part. and the more corruption pts choices you pick the more evil Claudia will get.

Spoiler: Demoness Claudia heh

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On the Dom route my “gray” good Kane wouldn't corrupt Claudia because there are already too many sadistic bitches around, some of whom have hands up to their elbows in blood. At least let there be someone relatively sinless.

 

[Maviarab]

With Claudia's corruption we have bingo? i.e. no one is good anymore and they are all evil .

 

[Silver_Crow117]

On the Dom route my “gray” good Kane wouldn't corrupt Claudia because there are already too many sadistic bitches around, some of whom have hands up to their elbows in blood. At least let there be someone relatively sinless.

Yeah ofc I’ll have a playthrough where I’ll keep her good, but I kinda want to see how far she can fall… most likely to Celeste lvls maybe…

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Maviarab, PickerLewd
My words are more addressed to the Veronica and Callista haters club who can't stop whining about how "bad" they are.

That's because they are! It's not a conspiracy if 'they' really are watching you.

At least let there be someone relatively sinless.

I think you meant to say spineless. Mercy is a weakness that your enemies will no doubt exploit. To me, the world of KG is very similar to the Sith Academy on Korriban (from KotoR). If you want to survive, you must be willing to step over the bodies of you fellow students ('prisoners' in KG) and ultimately kill the leadership and take over the Sith. Social darwinism at its finest - the stong soar while the weak serve them. A power fantasy at its finest.

 

[Stan5851]

I think you meant to say spineless. Mercy is a weakness that your enemies will no doubt exploit. To me, the world of KG is very similar to the Sith Academy on Korriban (from KotoR). If you want to survive, you must be willing to step over the bodies of you fellow students ('prisoners' in KG) and ultimately kill the leadership and take over the Sith. Social darwinism at its finest - the stong soar while the weak serve them. A power fantasy at its finest.

Claudia is not my enemy. My enemy is a few sadistic bitches who think they're the crown of creation. Well, I'll have to disappoint them and show them where they belong. Sure, there will be inevitable losses and difficult moral choices along the way to true power, but I'll still try to fix this broken world and make it a little more just and humane. Some people tend to mistake kindness for weakness, but that's not true, and “goodness can come with fists".And that's exactly what my “gray” good Kane will try to bring to life.

 

[PickerLewd]

And that's exactly what my “gray” good Kane will try to bring to life.

Gandalf the Grey did not end well, better choose the path of pure light or the path of darkness .

 

[Stan5851]

Gandalf the Grey did not end well, better choose the path of pure light or the path of darkness .

And miss all parts of a huge game show with tons of events and scenes? No, thanks.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I just realized that some of us never managed to stop whining and complaining.

did you just realize that you killed your own point by bitching about my complaining on a messageboard? Don't blame me cuz you like shitty characters.
Also, don't be a Callista, if you have something to say to me either quote me or @ me.

 

[SlowGoesSlow]

All the women in the science division are wonderful and have never ever done anything bad.
I will not be taking questions at this time.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

All the women in the science division are wonderful and have never ever done anything bad.
I will not be taking questions at this time.

Nurse Reyes is awesome as is Astrid.

 

[Stan5851]

did you just realize that you killed your own point by bitching about my complaining on a messageboard? Don't blame me cuz you like shitty characters.
Also, don't be a Callista, if you have something to say to me either quote me or @ me.

I will figure out how to write my posts myself, I don't need your help. And your childish grudges against Callista are ridiculous, as I've written about many times. The fact that subKane is an idiot who decided to cave in and become a lowly worm has only himself to blame. On the other hand, I emphasize the original nature of Kane, who was never inclined to be submissive and believe (not unreasonably) that Sub route is an artificial construct. There was a lot of discussion of this topic here at one time, you should remember that.

All we know from all the game history available to us is that Callista was a good mother and did her best to raise and educate Kane and Olivia (everything else is your fantasy). So she can't be bad by default. Or do you think she trained Kane from childhood to crawl on the floor and grovel before sadistic bitches? (lol). No, Kane lived in a normal atmosphere and grew up a well-educated, thinking and confident guy who loves his family and is willing to protect them, which he did by standing up for Seth. So there are more questions to Tess herself, why all of a sudden a confident and even tough guy (not tortured and starved) suddenly decided to play submissive (at the player's will), which didn't fit his nature at all.

 

[PickerLewd]

Sub Kane could be justified in the beginning, he knows he's being held illegally, I think he's been tortured from time to time and let's say he falls into Elena's trap to get out of there quickly, of course with time everything gets worse and it was better to stay in prison for a few more years.

Calista is good, but she's done more to prepare Olivia for the impending danger than her sons, and if my mother faked her death only to reappear a few years later, I don't know how I'd react, but I think it would be with anger .

 

[Nifferman]

I will figure out how to write my posts myself, I don't need your help. And your childish grudges against Callista are ridiculous, as I've written about many times. The fact that subKane is an idiot who decided to cave in and become a lowly worm has only himself to blame. On the other hand, I emphasize the original nature of Kane, who was never inclined to be submissive and believe (not unreasonably) that Sub route is an artificial construct. There was a lot of discussion of this topic here at one time, you should remember that.

All we know from all the game history available to us is that Callista was a good mother and did her best to raise and educate Kane and Olivia (everything else is your fantasy). So she can't be bad by default. Or do you think she trained Kane from childhood to crawl on the floor and grovel before sadistic bitches? (lol). No, Kane prs in a normal atmosphere and grew up a well-educated, thinking and confident guy who loves his family and is willing to protect them, which he did by standing up for Seth. So there are more questions to Tess herself, why all of a sudden a confident and even tough guy (not tortured and starved) suddenly decided to play submissive (at the player's will), which didn't fit his nature at all.

Maybe think it has a subconscious suppressed one's self. Or think of it in an other way....maybe Kane was tortured enough so he bend towards Elena's will just to escape more torture.

 

[Stan5851]

Sub Kane could be justified in the beginning, he knows he's being held illegally, I think he's been tortured from time to time and let's say he falls into Elena's trap to get out of there quickly, of course with time everything gets worse and it was better to stay in prison for a few more years.

Calista is good, but she's done more to prepare Olivia for the impending danger than her sons, and if my mother faked her death only to reappear a few years later, I don't know how I'd react, but I think it would be with anger .

First, we don't know anything about torture or that Kane was allegedly starved..... Kane looks overgrown, maybe he should wash his hair, but he doesn't look like a victim being hunted in prison. And the only torture (with death) we are shown is when Kane gets angry and asks for the inmate who attacked him to be punished.

As for Callista preparing Olivia better than she was able to prepare Kane, that's not entirely true.

We have to remember one simple thing - Kane is not Karlsson, and as much as Callista prepared him, she realized that he and Olivia's path to the top would start from very different positions. Simply because he's a Jacobs (son of the disgraced Cole) and not a member of the royal family who owns everything. Yes, Kane has “unique blood” and great genetics, but he still had to start from scratch. However, already (after only 8 days since the whole story started) our KaneDom is one step away from M-rank, which is a pass to the Z+ elite.

...Okay, it's time for my KaneDom to go on a picnic, my Bugatti Veyron is already warmed up, with hot and submissive chicks waiting in the salon, so it's time to fun..

"Ugh, what a bad mother Callista, leaving her own son to bask in luxury and comfort, dominate submissive slave girls and fuck most of the elite and beautiful sadistic bitches...Will definitely blame her for this as soon as I see her! How could you raise me like this, mom?!"

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Kane prs in a normal atmosphere and grew up a well-educated, thinking and confident guy who loves his family

Spoiler: Here's why he's not a character and Callista is a terrible mother

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[MilesEdgeworth]

Offered to do some sig images for Silver_Crow117 and with his permission he said I could post them here. Also did a few others while I was at it, so hope you enjoy.

Spoiler: Sig Images.

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Im sensing a theme here. Great signatures

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I will figure out how to write my posts myself, I don't need your help. And your childish grudges against Callista are ridiculous, as I've written about many times. The fact that subKane is an idiot who decided to cave in and become a lowly worm has only himself to blame. On the other hand, I emphasize the original nature of Kane, who was never inclined to be submissive and believe (not unreasonably) that Sub route is an artificial construct. There was a lot of discussion of this topic here at one time, you should remember that.

All we know from all the game history available to us is that Callista was a good mother and did her best to raise and educate Kane and Olivia (everything else is your fantasy). So she can't be bad by default. Or do you think she trained Kane from childhood to crawl on the floor and grovel before sadistic bitches? (lol). No, Kane lived in a normal atmosphere and grew up a well-educated, thinking and confident guy who loves his family and is willing to protect them, which he did by standing up for Seth. So there are more questions to Tess herself, why all of a sudden a confident and even tough guy (not tortured and starved) suddenly decided to play submissive (at the player's will), which didn't fit his nature at all.

Yea, no. Like I said, if you're going to take shots at me for your shitty choices, then at least have the decency to quote me; if not, you're about as craven as Callista.

That bitch put her son in a situation that could very well get him killed and didn't even have the decency to properly prepare him for what was about to happen to him. Hell, regardless of which Kane one chooses to play as she didn't even have the decency to tell him who his father was. Imagine pretending that someone who put her son in a life-or-death game without even asking him is a good mother.
I look forward to her dumb ass getting precisely what's coming to her when Kane comes into power.

 

[PickerLewd]

Hey Sharpshooter890, KotoR 1 or KotoR 2?