VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 FinalA2] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[harsha_26]

Exactly. Even Tess in her private chat with the game's patron (which has already been quoted here) admitted that gaming platforms like Steam and Patreon apply double standards to men...So yes, "Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi"...And I consider it a miracle that games with pronounced maledom (such as Desert Stalker) are still sold there.

Nevertheless, in KG (I'm replaying the old content, and start the new 0.8.3 soon, but I don't think anything will change much there), we have the Dom route, and even if all the "domination" consists of is that we are not slaves, but control the assertive and confident Kane, that's not bad either.

At the very least, this allows Dom players who do not accept any form of humiliation towards MC to enjoy this large-scale story, gradually changing the world and moving towards their goal of becoming the “King of the Mountain” — the Ruler of this hotbed of evil, while also deciding the fate of these sadistic bitches (within well-known limits), as well as helping (or not) those who are fighting for the survival of the rest of humanity.

Yeah that game is truly a miracle. And yes, the number of patrons for that game proves there is a huge fanbase for hardcore maledom but platforms suck.

 

[NewGuy2022]

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Yes, that's the strange part. When Good Olivia tells Good Kane "you didn't really show a strong interest in me a certain way." That sort of makes you think you missed a flag or some points when trying to align with Good Olivia... ...just a bug. The fact that Alessandra is involved should be another reason it never should appear on a Good Olivia route.

 

[MagicMan753]

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Yes, that's the strange part. When Good Olivia tells Good Kane "you didn't really show a strong interest in me a certain way." That sort of makes you think you missed a flag or some points when trying to align with Good Olivia... ...just a bug. The fact that Alessandra is involved should be another reason it never should appear on a Good Olivia route.

Yeah, just some weird phrasing. I would normally point this stuff out and other things for her to fix(made whole documents of fixes), when I was in discord and subbed but as I am no longer, can't help out anymore. So unless someone else points it out for her, there will probably be more weird dialogue or errors in general, not just this.

 

[Rowszix]

Has there been any change to the art or is it still pretty much the same in latest updates?

The same.

Yes, that's the strange part. When Good Olivia tells Good Kane "you didn't really show a strong interest in me a certain way." That sort of makes you think you missed a flag or some points when trying to align with Good Olivia... ...just a bug. The fact that Alessandra is involved should be another reason it never should appear on a Good Olivia route.

Well Alessandra seems to be a big fan of Olivia, regardless of Olivia good/evil playstyle - as seen in the Alessandra/Veronica scene at the end of current content and the Alessandra/Olivia female led society scene. Actually it feels to me sometimes that Olivias decisions don't really matter that much, if Kane is not directly invovled. Olivia sub stat doesn't seem to have any effect at all on sub Route so far (on dom route there is also not that much I know) and good/evil changes some scenes, but it's less Olivia is actually "good" and wants to change things for the better and more Olivia is not a second Juliette (but this is more visible on the sub route and it seems most you guys enjoy dom route more ). I think in the early episodes the stats had more impact on her behaviour and the decisions we can make for her.
And yes I know that some of this could be explained with the Agent Olivia theory, but it would be nice to get some hints about her "true" intentions.
That Olivia can't really "fail", regardless what she does is kind of dissapointing to me in a game that is forked so much ... but I guess/hope her going her own way, becomes more relevant in later episodes.

Yeah, just some weird phrasing. I would normally point this stuff out and other things for her to fix(made whole documents of fixes), when I was in discord and subbed but as I am no longer, can't help out anymore. So unless someone else points it out for her, there will probably be more weird dialogue or errors in general, not just this.

It was pointed out on the discord. Maybe they fix it for final release of the current content.

 

[NewGuy2022]

Well Alessandra seems to be a big fan of Olivia, regardless of Olivia good/evil playstyle - as seen in the Alessandra/Veronica scene at the end of current content and the Alessandra/Olivia female led society scene. Actually it feels to me sometimes that Olivias decisions don't really matter that much, if Kane is not directly invovled. Olivia sub stat doesn't seem to have any effect at all on sub Route so far (on dom route there is also not that much I know) and good/evil changes some scenes, but it's less Olivia is actually "good" and wants to change things for the better and more Olivia is not a second Juliette (but this is more visible on the sub route and it seems most you guys enjoy dom route more ). I think in the early episodes the stats had more impact on her behaviour and the decisions we can make for her.
And yes I know that some of this could be explained with the Agent Olivia theory, but it would be nice to get some hints about her "true" intentions.
That Olivia can't really "fail", regardless what she does is kind of dissapointing to me in a game that is forked so much ... but I guess/hope her going her own way, becomes more relevant in later episodes.

The story goes that a certain world leader was asked his opinion about a certain European country in WWII and the leader said, "no matter on which side they begin a war, they always end it on the side that wins." I think the same analogy could apply to Alessandra. (I agree with you, BTW, that she's a big Olivia fan).

Olivia's sub stat, if it's high enough, is supposed to influence

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and it does influence some dialogue between the Karlsson sisters during the game; beyond that, I don't remember any actual decisions that the stat influenced. "SisGood" influences a lot of things in the game to the point where some decisions don't even appear on the screen (because a "good" Olivia would never even consider them a choice).

Admittedly, all my views are from the dom side so if you're a sub or ss, you may see things completely differently. While I agree with you that Olivia can't truly fail, there are varying degrees of how much she can succeed; some endings work out "better" for her than others from what I can tell so far.

 

[Rowszix]

The story goes that a certain world leader was asked his opinion about a certain European country in WWII and the leader said, "no matter on which side they begin a war, they always end it on the side that wins." I think the same analogy could apply to Alessandra. (I agree with you, BTW, that she's a big Olivia fan).

Olivia's sub stat, if it's high enough, is supposed to influence

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and it does influence some dialogue between the Karlsson sisters during the game; beyond that, I don't remember any actual decisions that the stat influenced. "SisGood" influences a lot of things in the game to the point where some decisions don't even appear on the screen (because a "good" Olivia would never even consider them a choice).

Admittedly, all my views are from the dom side so if you're a sub or ss, you may see things completely differently. While I agree with you that Olivia can't truly fail, there are varying degrees of how much she can succeed; some endings work out "better" for her than others from what I can tell so far.

Yes, the good stat changes scenes on Sub too. But I think from newer content there is only one scene that is really compleltly different (as in different decisions) between good and evil Olvia.

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but I guess that is most likely of the game show stuff.
The rest just has some different dialog lines from some characters and sometimes her reaction is different. She definetly feels much more evil on sub path, when played evil. But in the early episodes the changes felt more drastic. "Good" Olivia feels like she still enjoys tormenting and humiliating the guys a lot (and if Kane does something like that it always seems to push the evil stat for him, if he acts like that). I don't really have a problem with that, as I enjoy that suff, hehe. But on dom path "good" Olivia feels actually much more good and less corrupted by power than on sub path, most likely because you don't really see a lot of femdom scenes there. I just have the feeling that she was planned more defying the system on very early scenes for example with Daniel and Nathan. Also her first interactions with sub Kane are much more supporting of him and telling him he should submit to her so she can protect him. But from episode 6 or 7, it looks like she complelty has accepted her role as a Mistress and Kane as a/her slave. I dont want to sound overly critical here, I mean maybe she is just getting adjusted to her new position or plays her role better. And yeah, good Olivia sub romance is also my "main" playthrough .
I made a sub Olvia / sub Kane playthrough once to see if she kind of fails at being dominant or hesitates more. But it doesn't change how she interacts with the guys at all on sub path.
And yeah I guess she can mostly likely fail in some endings. It was more that she can't really fail to the point where we are right now.

 

[Belnick]

14gb, sex animation heavily improved then ? :O

 

[slaveatif]

This game has lot of fan base because of lovely femdom content or evil femdom. Adding maledom will finish the beauty and popularity of this game.

 

[dudley77]

https://f95zone.to/threads/karlssons-gambit-v0-8-31-finala2-grym-gudinna-games.50840/post-15946810

Many many thanks for saving my sanity! Now to play it again. Have a happy and safe 2026!

 

[harsha_26]

This game has lot of fan base because of lovely femdom content or evil femdom. Adding maledom will finish the beauty and popularity of this game.

Maledom is a path which is there from inital start of this game. Both good dom and evil dom. So, I don't know what you are talking about. Tess sure have better plans on dom path in past but she dropped them because of some reasons. Your reason is not one of them. Although dom and sub fans have some differences, Sub fans never had any prblm with the existence of dom paths and vice versa too.

And there is also a section of switch players who love both paths.

 

[Maviarab]

This game has lot of fan base because of lovely femdom content or evil femdom. Adding maledom will finish the beauty and popularity of this game.

 

[HiHaHo]

we're getting back into that male dom isn't really male dom topic?

 

[motseer]

we're getting back into that male dom isn't really male dom topic?

Of course, it's not. It's just the natural order.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

This game has lot of fan base because of lovely femdom content or evil femdom. Adding maledom will finish the beauty and popularity of this game.

That would make it a different game and since tess isnt into maledom, it would make it a worse game. Besides, there's plenty of maledom in this game as it is.

 

[Spfjolietjake]

I play dom/evil and don't mind seeing others suffer. I enjoy this vn. Yeah it would be great if it could be even darker but the money holders and platforms only allow so much. The dev does great in my opinion taking it as far as it can go.

I always look forward to updates. The only thing I hate is that I feel my ending will suck. The whole vn working my way to be the king of the mountain only to reach it and either everything falls apart or just "the end" showing. I truly want to play evil dom for several updates with total power. But alas I don't see it happening.

Still a fun ride.

 

[Akkarin69]

Finished two of my lower K-rank games and sadly I'm not really amazed from the update. It still feels unfinished (especially with the rushed and very disappointing finish of the K1 scene and the missing parts in Game 6) and especially repetitive. Like how many pussy-licking and ball busting scenes do you need in one update? Could easily cut half of them and come up with something different or simply accelerates the pacing instead and there would still be enough ballkicking and pussylicking in it.

Sorry, but in terms of writing, that wasn't peak. Let's see how the Dom-Routes play out.

 

[Ashurgy]

Any idea what are the conditions / flags required for the scene with Oliva near the start of part 3 where she says: "I was thinking of inviting you to something. But I've changed my mind. You didn't really.. show a strong interest in me a certain way."?

 

[Rowszix]

Finished two of my lower K-rank games and sadly I'm not really amazed from the update. It still feels unfinished (especially with the rushed and very disappointing finish of the K1 scene and the missing parts in Game 6) and especially repetitive. Like how many pussy-licking and ball busting scenes do you need in one update? Could easily cut half of them and come up with something different or simply accelerates the pacing instead and there would still be enough ballkicking and pussylicking in it.

Sorry, but in terms of writing, that wasn't peak. Let's see how the Dom-Routes play out.

Agreed, the K1 game over is like the most unsatisfying thing possible . This is I think the first possbile game over after what 10-15 hours, maybe more gametime and it is just a Game Over screen... Dont really get the point of it all. If it would have some screens showing what happend after, but this ... just finish the actual game that brings the story forth, but it seems game 6 won't even be completly done even in the FinalB patch. But instead of that we get a scene where the evil bitches are not just evil but also incompetent .

Also agreed on the games being repetitive ... it basically stops the story from actual progressing. Its just the same service or torture scenes with different characters for the most time. I mean there were some good ideas, like the Alessandra tickle test or the literal brown nosing. But overall it's half the time stat checking from invisible stats that are increased by stupid guessing game decisions and the other half it's just stupid guessing game decissions . So yeah 5 or 6 games would have been enough,

The only real story development of 8.3 on sub was Veronica sub romance scene and the introduction of rebellion. And I feel sub Kane shouldn't be involved in Rebellion until after the game show at all. When he is climbing ranks again and gets some agency it makes sense for him helping, but before that all the super geniuses and super killer assasins should just do their shit on their own .

Ok enough venting ... Actually looking forward to the Kane/Olivia pegging scene for FinalB release. But please let good Olivia put some lube on it .

Any idea what are the conditions / flags required for the scene with Oliva near the start of part 3 where she says: "I was thinking of inviting you to something. But I've changed my mind. You didn't really.. show a strong interest in me a certain way."?

Kane romance + Evil Demon Olivia. That she actually says something about it when not Demon flagged is a bug.

 

[Ashurgy]

Agreed, the K1 game over is like the most unsatisfying thing possible . This is I think the first possbile game over after what 10-15 hours, maybe more gametime and it is just a Game Over screen... Dont really get the point of it all. If it would have some screens showing what happend after, but this ... just finish the actual game that brings the story forth, but it seems game 6 won't even be completly done even in the FinalB patch. But instead of that we get a scene where the evil bitches are not just evil but also incompetent .

Also agreed on the games being repetitive ... it basically stops the story from actual progressing. Its just the same service or torture scenes with different characters for the most time. I mean there were some good ideas, like the Alessandra tickle test or the literal brown nosing. But overall it's half the time stat checking from invisible stats that are increased by stupid guessing game decisions and the other half it's just stupid guessing game decissions . So yeah 5 or 6 games would have been enough,

The only real story development of 8.3 on sub was Veronica sub romance scene and the introduction of rebellion. And I feel sub Kane shouldn't be involved in Rebellion until after the game show at all. When he is climbing ranks again and gets some agency it makes sense for him helping, but before that all the super geniuses and super killer assasins should just do their shit on their own .

Ok enough venting ... Actually looking forward to the Kane/Olivia pegging scene for FinalB release. But please let good Olivia put some lube on it .



Kane romance + Evil Demon Olivia. That she actually says something about it when not Demon flagged is a bug.

Thanks mate!

 

[NewGuy2022]

Any idea what are the conditions / flags required for the scene with Oliva near the start of part 3 where she says: "I was thinking of inviting you to something. But I've changed my mind. You didn't really.. show a strong interest in me a certain way."?

Both of you need to be on the evil path and you need to have agreed to "be" with her from her earlier questions. It's a bug that shouldn't be there if you're on the good path. Apparently they know about it and are fixing it (but haven't).

If everything lines up (evilx2, etc.) you end up in a courtroom scene w/ Olivia, Alessandra, Jake, and a few others.