I don't equate dom or sub to wise or foolish.
He is dominant in the scenario you mentioned, hell it doesnt even cost him any points, but it also gets him nothing. I remember an early scenario where I got my MC electrocuted because he refused to give into Elena's crap. Didn't get the blowjob from Kat in the car meeting with Elena, but he was dominant. Kane can be as dominant as he wants with little to no sub consequences, it just won't get him anything of substance. While he can dominate whoever he wants, he does have to politic to get nice things. Hell by the end of this update he has his own harem of 5 girls.
You're likely right, but Kane doesnt know that. As far as he knows his pods performance will probably affect his standing. Last thing he wants to do is weaken it by getting rid of Jake
Veronica killed her father for being a threat to her sister, I doubt that Veronica will do anything positive or negative to affect the revolution. She'll just let the chips fall where they fall. She's good either way. If Kane wants a revolution, she'll likely turn her head the other way.
Good leaning Veronica tells us to talk Astrid down from being to radical with the revolution. So it would make sense to me that if she is not good leaning, she would most likely just shut it down at some point. But yeah it's just a guess
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Yep, she confirmed it in one of her talks to her pops. He wouldnt stop looking for astrid so she poisoned him.Good leaning Veronica tells us to talk Astrid down from being to radical with the revolution. So it would make sense to me that if she is not good leaning, she would most likely just shut it down at some point. But yeah it's just a guess
Is it confirmed that Veronica is responsible for Alexanders death?
The main issue here is MC don't have control over Karlsson's. Whether it is to proceed a sex scene in a Kane's way or to reject it. Domkane is in manager in training for all of 8th episode. But after game show, domkane jumps into M ranks but executive in training. So, I hope we may see kane get more control over the scenes.
Ahh you are right, in the hospital scene. Mhh it seems she infected him with the illness.
But he only gets into managment training if he does good enough right?
Up to now, veronica have one or two intimate scenes with domkane. To be frank, those scenes haven't felt like "equal". Veronica took the lead and guide the kane. Junko romance scenes are more of an equal. Both kane and junko contributed and exchanged leads within the same scene in private pool scene.Ahh I see. Ok but the situations you describe dont really give you sub points. They give you negative points for the ranking. So it is not seen as submisive to defy the Karlssons in this situations, but it is bad for your grade.
Which actually brings me to something intresting. When starting the game and from the introduction in the very first choice of the game, it seemed there were two opposites that would form the story:
Dom vs Sub
Good vs Evil
BUT the game forkes much to hard, much to early for the first opposite to acutally matter anymore. It is nearly impossible to get actual sub points on dom route (except secret sub of course) and also nearly impossible to get dom points os sub route. I think one of the only times that acutally happens is in very early shared decisions after the initial K4 or K5/K6 grade.
What I get from this is, that initially the game was most likely planned very different to acutal use those 4 stats as the most important to actually form the story. But instead of constantly make decisions about those stats, Tess decided to basically make 2 games. One for dom and one for sub.
There is only one chance to change from K4 or lower to K5+ and this is with Olivias first judgment scene. And the change here actually forces the player into secret sub. While it is complelty impossible to fall down from K5 to K4.
This game split acutally opens up one of the biggest plot holes (in my opinion) on sub route:
During the second Olivia judgment in the throne room, a good Olivia with max sisTeam and princesseye points (up to this point of course) forbids Kane from using his Kpass to go from K4 to K5, because she doesn't want anybody get that rank on that day. BUT she knows that the game show will happen after that. A game show that has a pretty high chance of killing Kane (at least in the story) so WHY THE ACTUAL FUCK does she prevents her adoptive brother/love interest to be safe from this, if she is good and has a good realtionship with him
I assume (and really this is speculation) that initially (and I mean very early) the ranking was planned as less relevant for being sub or dom but more like an overall ranking how good the player does, while interactions with different characters would play out differently depending on how dominant/submissive Kane is or acts in these situations.
As a sub leaning switch, this actual would be an even more intresting game to me
So yeah, the game does not penalize you with sub points. It penalizes you with giving you a worse grade. Because the dom stat doesnt really seem to matter anymore after we are on dom route.
And about the switch girls. I agree with your examples except Alessandra. I think she is acutally one of the girls that only really wants a sub long term and she acts like it. Yes she enjoys using Kane as a bull in cuckold stuff but unlike Dominique or Juliette she doesn't really wants Kane to take the lead. But I complelty agree with Veronica, she either wants a Kane that is equal to her. She doesn't want a guy that dominates her, but a partner. Or a sub if on sub route, but even here she seems to be more into gentle femdom and it seems her sub would have to be very competent and successful outside of the bedroom (kinda like with secret sub, but coming from sub route instead of dom route).
I think the lowest rank domkane will get is k9 no matter what how you worst you fo after game show. Tess only have two routes planned for domkane mentioned in walkthrough. One is regular manager route, and other is manager with executive training.
I wouldn't call the secret sub dom thing "subabovek4", from what I recall it was 90% the same as the regular dom path just your scenes with alessandra were instead sub-ish (but not the same as the alessandra scenes in the sub path) - and you can get out of the secret sub thing fast enough (she demotes you to k5).
That is because they are not equal now. Right now even dom Kane is basically a slave that is treated really good. But he isnt free. I think long term Veronica will make dom Kane a partner. While Veronica has sadistic tendencies she doesn't really show any enjyoment from power exchange stuff. So maybe even sub Kane will be more like a partner for her, except in the bedroom
. Tess also said somewhere to get the trouple Veronica, Olivia and Kane all need to be kinda equal.Wouldn't that make dom route kinda shallow if he always gets promoted to K9? And execution training is tied to execution points. Right now we can only get two right? And one only if Dominique is more evil.
In a walkthrough she wrote that true sub Kane can climb ranks after the game show. I think she wrote K6 is possible for true sub kane. But you are right, I forgot secret sub as another dom side route.
I guess Veronica or Olivia can maybe vouche for sub Kane to get K6. Maybe Dominique for Junko pet and if Kane said he wants to be strong for her. Juliette is possible but ... it's Juliette so I dont think so
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Most of the characters have the "Golden Palace" third-party pussy. A couple have the third-party "New Genitalia For Victoria 8" pussy. In both cases, they appear to be at the default settings. Both assets have a lot of shaping morphs to change the look or coloring. But with as many hot girls that are in the game, it would take a bit of time to give each one a custom look.
You understand these are more or less completely and utterly useless right? Just flavour text most. Once on a path there is no point to them past a certain point.
Excuse my ignorance, but do you mean a secret sub route for Alessandra where she's my Sub? Or Olivia is the sub?
Yes, there's a path (or 2) where a k5+ dom Kane becomes Alessandra's secret sub plaything in private, getting on his knees, licking her heels, acting the dog etc. It happens automatically when you manage to climb from K4- to K5+ early in the game. It starts out secret but after a while she brings in other girls to have fun domming you (ex: Alyssa). When she starts exposing you to other girls you also get the option to end the secret sub thing at the cost of making an enemy of Alessandra and instant demotion to K5.
a other dev going into a VN with grand idea's for a in-depth point system only to discover it's more a off nuisance then they thought it would be?
All the villains wanted to make the world a better place in their own way. Even Hitler wanted to make a better Russia, but only the Russians constantly got in his way.
like how hitler didn't want to make a better russia? but a better germany,which just happend to include parts that non-german people didn't consider germany.
