VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 TestB] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[harsha_26]

I think leadership in factions is overrated. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter who the leader is, the only thing that matters is who gets power over the Corporation and who controls all the processes...A faction is not a ruling political party, but rather an informal association of people who share common goals and interests and are ready to defend them.

As for Veronica, I don't know if this will help you, but if your DomKane tries very hard and fulfills a number of game conditions, you can get a harem of Liv+Veronica within World State B.

Its a trio route, not harem.

 

[harsha_26]

I have a question for the experts in this group: How trustworthy is Elena?

I think if Olivia is good, you can trust her. But if you're playing Olivia as evil, I have my doubts.

Fuck that elite bitch, she is 100% dangerous and choose olivia over Kane unless Olivia is good sub.

 

[_Sen _]

I have a question for the experts in this group: How trustworthy is Elena?

I think if Olivia is good, you can trust her. But if you're playing Olivia as evil, I have my doubts.

She is fully supportive of Olivia and will stand by her whatever she does. Probably thinks this way she can make up for abandoning her. There was an option in an earlier episode (season 1) where Olivia could put her on a redemption route or an evil one. At that time, it was said that her evil route would be one of the more darker paths.

With Kane, it depends where you stand with Olivia. Kane is aligned with her, Elena is your ally. You're against Liv, then you're against Elena. As I said before, Elena has the chance to kill a K1 Kane who turned down Olivia. The first known such option.

She also has a secret sub route apparently. Silver can confirm. So she will want to cause a rift between Kane and Alessa in that routes.

 

[akki_sky]

I don't know what dev was thinking when she introduced Elena as mentor for Kane. She only care about Olivia, Even told Callista same. Why make her mentor, if she is only going to help on Olivia path. Mentor should be someone who will be available on every path. Elena did not even helped Kane for anything important on Olivia path too.

 

[akki_sky]

I think leadership in factions is overrated. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter who the leader is, the only thing that matters is who gets power over the Corporation and who controls all the processes...A faction is not a ruling political party, but rather an informal association of people who share common goals and interests and are ready to defend them.

As for Veronica, I don't know if this will help you, but if your DomKane tries very hard and fulfills a number of game conditions, you can get a harem of Liv+Veronica within World State B.

I'm aware about throuple path where Cole becomes leader. But knowing dev, this path feels like mirage, it will be gone before you can reach there. So, I don't have any hope.

 

[Stan5851]

Its a trio route, not harem.

Nope. In the wording used by the dev, she refers to such unions/endings as a harem, not a “trio.” As for the traditional big harem, there won't be one. This post does not fully reflect the current reality, but the last line is probably still relevant (alas).

Although I personally am in favor of DomKane having just such an Arabian style harem by the end of the game. But for now, we only have Lily, who can truly be considered the first member of our personal harem, so let's see how many girls end up there in the future.

 

[Popata20]

Nope. In the wording used by the dev, she refers to such unions/endings as a harem, not a “trio.” As for the traditional big harem, there won't be one. This post does not fully reflect the current reality, but the last line is probably still relevant (alas).
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Although I personally am in favor of DomKane having just such an Arabian style harem by the end of the game. But for now, we only have Lily, who can truly be considered the first member of our personal harem, so let's see how many girls end up there in the future.

Would Delilah be stronger than Juliette? (just because in the first two examples the lady in first place is clearly stronger, so I think the same is true for the third one)

 

[Stan5851]

I have a question for the experts in this group: How trustworthy is Elena?

I think if Olivia is good, you can trust her. But if you're playing Olivia as evil, I have my doubts.

If we are talking about the Dom route, I think that in the case of the evil Olivia, it makes sense to abandon the plot arc of Elena's redemption and choose the option that will push Elena towards evil. In this case, mother and daughter will be on the same wavelength. Elena will never betray her daughter and will always support her, and their common goals will only bring them closer together.

As for Kane, in this combination, it makes sense for our future son-in-law to also be an evil, because Kane and Liv's moral (or immoral, heh) compass must match perfectly to achieve the best results.

 

[Stan5851]

I don't know what dev was thinking when she introduced Elena as mentor for Kane. She only care about Olivia, Even told Callista same. Why make her mentor, if she is only going to help on Olivia path. Mentor should be someone who will be available on every path. Elena did not even helped Kane for anything important on Olivia path too.

You're right. Tess has created a crazy number of flags and variables, and the relevance of many of them is questionable. I also didn't notice any support from Elena, which people usually expect to receive from a mentor.

 

[harsha_26]

Nope. In the wording used by the dev, she refers to such unions/endings as a harem, not a “trio.” As for the traditional big harem, there won't be one. This post does not fully reflect the current reality, but the last line is probably still relevant (alas).
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Although I personally am in favor of DomKane having just such an Arabian style harem by the end of the game. But for now, we only have Lily, who can truly be considered the first member of our personal harem, so let's see how many girls end up there in the future.

Even though she thinks it is harem route, it is trio route actually, because except Olivia and Veronica, none of the main girls will be available for world state B (except may be veronica's medical gang). That's what i wanted to say.


After you replying to the above one, please reply this too:
what tess mean by this screenshot? Is she saying those 6 will be available for A as separate trios or all 6 in one world A ending?

 

[harsha_26]

I don't know what dev was thinking when she introduced Elena as mentor for Kane. She only care about Olivia, Even told Callista same. Why make her mentor, if she is only going to help on Olivia path. Mentor should be someone who will be available on every path. Elena did not even helped Kane for anything important on Olivia path too.

In my first playthrough, i chose her as mentor because well im into milfs, but down the line i understand she does not have our best interests and she is everything for olivia. And i restarted it again and chosen more domination option that given me samantha in evil haha.

 

[Stan5851]

Would Delilah be stronger than Juliette? (just because in the first two examples the lady in first place is clearly stronger, so I think the same is true for the third one)

I suppose we will no longer have a harem with Jules and Delilah. If we refer to the faction sheet, it clearly states that Delilah cannot join Faction A (the Gambit faction) ver.A1 (leaning more evil first). At the same time, this is the only faction where Juliette can be. Yes, Delilah can join Faction A (ver.A2— leaning good/but Gambit succeeds/mostly status quo), but for obvious reasons, Jules is not there. So these two simply do not have a common unifying faction. Why this might be important:

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[Maviarab]

After you replying to the above one, please reply this too:
what tess mean by this screenshot? Is she saying those 6 will be available for A as separate trios or all 6 in one world A ending?

The sisters will not share except on one specific path.

It is a haram (it is even said by Dominique in the last update) but this haram exists of a sister, assistants, staff, slaves etc etc etc.

What Tess means is, every girl you encounter will not auto join or even be available...ala many dumb ass haram games around here.

 

[Stan5851]

After you replying to the above one,

I don't plan to answer this question, as Mav has already answered it, and I agree with his point of view regarding the definition of a harem in KG.

 

[harsha_26]

The sisters will not share except on one specific path.

It is a haram (it is even said by Dominique in the last update) but this haram exists of a sister, assistants, staff, slaves etc etc etc.

What Tess means is, every girl you encounter will not auto join or even be available...ala many dumb ass haram games around here.

The sisters will share except on one specific path, so what is the specific path?

Tess said these combined sister paths will be possible in pure dom paths:
World State A(evil): Domi & Juli is getting a combined harem path (new change)
In world state B: Olivia & Veronica.
World State A (good): gonna be individual sister harem for either olivia or domi.
No idea about alessandra.

So, these paths you mean or there may be some specific path where all sisters share Kane? In sub or ss paths may be possible because he is just a toy to be used by anyone.

 

[harsha_26]

I suppose we will no longer have a harem with Jules and Delilah. If we refer to the faction sheet, it clearly states that Delilah cannot join Faction A (the Gambit faction) ver.A1 (leaning more evil first). At the same time, this is the only faction where Juliette can be. Yes, Delilah can join Faction A (ver.A2— leaning good/but Gambit succeeds/mostly status quo), but for obvious reasons, Jules is not there. So these two simply do not have a common unifying faction. Why this might be important:

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Seems like Tess is confused with all these flags, stats, faction sheets. Its okay, Understandable. Either that or she again changed her mind lol.

 

[Stan5851]

Seems like Tess is confused with all these flags, stats, faction sheets. Its okay, Understandable. Either that or she again changed her mind lol.

As for the faction sheet, I highly doubt that she got confused. It's a basic conceptual thing, the impact of which on the game will increase when we finally start interacting and joining these factions.

As for that,

Tess said these combined sister paths will be possible in pure dom paths:
World State A(evil): Domi & Juli is getting a combined harem path (new change)

it's not exactly news...I saw similar statements from her back in the fall of 2024, although I couldn't find that post at the time... But sometime in December 2024, I asked her about it on Discord (when I wasn't banned there yet, lol), and she responded in her traditionally vague style. However, I took it as a “yes” (since I had seen her post about it before)..

So the fact that you confirmed this possibility seems pretty good to me. And I think we saw the first signs of such a harem in 0.8.2 (in the big Dom scene with Jules, Dominique, Dr. Chastain, Mercy, and Lily).

However, knowing Tess's categorical rejection of incest, I highly doubt the success of such a harem. After all, it ultimately implies shared scenes where Jules and Domi can interact not only with Kane, but also with each other (I mean sexual interactions). And I don't understand how she plans to get around her own prohibition. And creating a harem where Kane takes turns fucking Dominique and Jules and where there are no threesome scenes is, in my opinion, complete nonsense.

 

[harsha_26]

As for the faction sheet, I highly doubt that she got confused. It's a basic conceptual thing, the impact of which on the game will increase when we finally start interacting and joining these factions.

As for that,

it's not exactly news...I saw similar statements from her back in the fall of 2024, although I couldn't find that post at the time... But sometime in December 2024, I asked her about it on Discord (when I wasn't banned there yet, lol), and she responded in her traditionally vague style. However, I took it as a “yes” (since I had seen her post about it before)..
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So the fact that you confirmed this possibility seems pretty good to me. And I think we saw the first signs of such a harem in 0.8.2 (in the big Dom scene with Jules, Dominique, Dr. Chastain, Mercy, and Lily).

However, knowing Tess's categorical rejection of incest, I highly doubt the success of such a harem. After all, it ultimately implies shared scenes where Jules and Domi can interact not only with Kane, but also with each other (I mean sexual interactions). And I don't understand how she plans to get around her own prohibition. And creating a harem where Kane takes turns fucking Dominique and Jules and where there are no threesome scenes is, in my opinion, complete nonsense.

Well i liked taking turns thing on after dart-game group sex scene. Im not much into lesbian action still want to fuck multiple girls in one scenario. And she excatly did what im into. It is my biggest fav sex scene as of yet. So many kinks of me happened in that one scene. Whipping a girl (mercy), Giving domi, the so eldest sister of karlsson's a deep lip lock kiss, fucking juli in a doggy where domi jokes about auctioning juli and the slavery sex machines.

I dont think, in the pure dom sexual sense, any other scene couldn't beat for me in future lol in this game. (sorry for my weak english)

 

[Stan5851]

Well i liked taking turns thing on after dart-game group sex scene. Im not much into lesbian action still want to fuck multiple girls in one scenario. And she excatly did what im into. It is my biggest fav sex scene as of yet. So many kinks of me happened in that one scene. Whipping a girl (mercy), Giving domi, the so eldest sister of karlsson's a deep lip lock kiss, fucking juli in a doggy where domi jokes about auctioning juli and the slavery sex machines.

I dont think, in the pure dom sexual sense, any other scene couldn't beat for me in future lol in this game. (sorry for my weak english)

However, none of this answers the question of how viable the Jules+Dominique harem actually is. No one is talking about a purely lesbian scene, but even the same hypothetical threesome scene in any a priori assumes that Jules and Dom will somehow touch each other and participate in a joint sexual act.

So for now, Tess's intention seems unfeasible due to her own prejudices. If she had been more astute and resolved the crisis with a small group of her inadequate patrons by banning them, rather than "punishing" ALL players who prefer the EvilDom route and a "romance" with Jules, she would not have had to come up with crutches in the form of an unworkable D+J harem.

As for your English,

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[akki_sky]

However, none of this answers the question of how viable the Jules+Dominique harem actually is. No one is talking about a purely lesbian scene, but even the same hypothetical threesome scene in any a priori assumes that Jules and Dom will somehow touch each other and participate in a joint sexual act.

So for now, Tess's intention seems unfeasible due to her own prejudices. If she had been more astute and resolved the crisis with a small group of her inadequate patrons by banning them, rather than "punishing" ALL players who prefer the EvilDom route and a "romance" with Jules, she would not have had to come up with crutches in the form of an unworkable D+J harem.

As for your English,

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I think there will be no D+J. In your screenshot in above post, dev said no flag exist means it's just normal Karlsson's hanging out together scene, that is just a world we are playing in. Dominique and Juliatte are temporary allies, so dev will just move their story forward together, they will fight their enemies together and in the end Kane can choose path of one of them and other will be killed. There will be never any threesome between them or any Karlsson's sister. Even in new previews, we can see that Alessandra and Olivia are having fun separately.