VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 TestB] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Stan5851]

To be honest, I will be more happy and be at peace if Tess announced that she is going to drop evil dom path fully and stop calling good dom path as "dom" path and instead, calling it as "vanilla path" Or "Indirect Femdom" lol.

She doesn't have the courage to admit it openly. Besides, it might alienate those unfortunate Dom (lol) patrons who pay her money and consider Tess's defective maledom to be the norm. By the way, it was funny to see how all her endless talk about her own financial independence and the tiny, insignificant income from KG sales compared to how much she earns from her business suddenly fell apart after the latest news.

She inadvertently revealed herself by showing too much excitement and concern about this story with payment systems and the disappearance of adult games (including KG) from itch.com. Someone who genuinely doesn't care and for whom, as she has tried to convince us for many years, the financial performance of her game sales is irrelevant, does not behave in this manner. All of this gave me some food for thought.

 

[harsha_26]

She doesn't have the courage to admit it openly. Besides, it might alienate those unfortunate Dom (lol) patrons who pay her money and consider Tess's defective maledom to be the norm. By the way, it was funny to see how all her endless talk about her own financial independence and the tiny, insignificant income from KG sales compared to how much she earns from her business suddenly fell apart after the latest news.

She inadvertently revealed herself by showing too much excitement and concern about this story with payment systems and the disappearance of adult games (including KG) from itch.com. Someone who genuinely doesn't care and for whom, as she has tried to convince us for many years, the financial performance of her game sales is irrelevant, does not behave in this manner. All of this gave me some food for thought.

This..... Yeah, it's always confusing for me too on why Tess who calls herself as a elite rich woman, cares for money or patreon. Why she is doing steam version modifications and also why she is doing multiple translation versions for different countries? Today she also said in her discord roadmap that, for KG's release in different languages, she is choosing different coverpics. Like for China, it will be kiyomi, For Russia, it will be Olivia with some fur bear clothes. Why to do all these?

 

[Maviarab]

This..... Yeah, it's always confusing for me too on why Tess who calls herself as a elite rich woman, cares for money or patreon. Why she is doing steam version modifications and also why she is doing multiple translation versions for different countries? Today she also said in her discord roadmap that, for KG's release in different languages, she is choosing different coverpics. Like for China, it will be kiyomi, For Russia, it will be Olivia with some fur bear clothes. Why to do all these?

You already know the reason and answer. Same reason she keeps boasting about her 'Ivy league' education and number of 'LLC's' she owns....

I'm sure you can figure it out but on the premise you can't, you think someone like that can pump out a hundred plus renders a week consistently for years?

 

[motseer]

You already know the reason and answer. Same reason she keeps boasting about her 'Ivy league' education and number of 'LLC's' she owns....

I'm sure you can figure it out but on the premise you can't, you think someone like that can pump out a hundred plus renders a week consistently for years?

No, someone like that should be able to hire three people to pump out 300+ renders and 100 animations a week for years... Jus' Sayin'

 

[harsha_26]

You already know the reason and answer. Same reason she keeps boasting about her 'Ivy league' education and number of 'LLC's' she owns....

I'm sure you can figure it out but on the premise you can't, you think someone like that can pump out a hundred plus renders a week consistently for years?

She may say "It's passion, I love consistency." But, it is true that she have a team and she is maintaining Grym Guddianna Games like a company. So, yeah, you are true it is definitely much more than just passion.

But still, one thing I always respect her is.. The story.. To this day we are discussing on it proves how much KG worth of a story. Sad to see this game won't see it's true potential ever.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

No, someone like that should be able to hire three people to pump out 300+ renders and 100 animations a week for years... Jus' Sayin'

To be fair she does have Anais.

As for the financial freedom aspect. Whether she's rich, poor or in the middle doesnt really influence the fact that she wants to monetize this project as much as possible. I don't know anybody who puts in this much time into a project in order to work on it for free.

 

[Maviarab]

She may say "It's passion, I love consistency." But, it is true that she have a team and she is maintaining Grym Guddianna Games like a company. So, yeah, you are true it is definitely much more than just passion.

Not what I meant at all.....

the fact that she wants to monetize this project as much as possible. I don't know anybody who puts in this much time into a project in order to work on it for free.

 

[motseer]

To be fair she does have Anais.

As for the financial freedom aspect. Whether she's rich, poor or in the middle doesnt really influence the fact that she wants to monetize this project as much as possible. I don't know anybody who puts in this much time into a project in order to work on it for free.

Yeah..., if I were going to generalize, I would say keep the passion in the bedroom, and the ambition in the workplace. Probably more efficient that way.

 

[jadepaladin]

To be fair she does have Anais.

As for the financial freedom aspect. Whether she's rich, poor or in the middle doesnt really influence the fact that she wants to monetize this project as much as possible. I don't know anybody who puts in this much time into a project in order to work on it for free.

Wants to monetize it as much as possible despite bringing up numerous times how it's trivial income compared to all her other ventures. We all know the money in AVNs is mostly situated at the top end, like OnlyFans or other similar ventures. Tess isn't in that top end.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Wants to monetize it as much as possible despite bringing up numerous times how it's trivial income compared to all her other ventures. We all know the money in AVNs is mostly situated at the top end, like OnlyFans or other similar ventures. Tess isn't in that top end.

Regardless of how trivial it is, it's still an income stream. Anybody with money will tell ya that you stretch your income streams as far as they can go regardless of importance. She might not be making badik money, but she's making money for her hobby.

 

[Maviarab]

Regardless of how trivial it is, it's still an income stream. Anybody with money will tell ya that you stretch your income streams as far as they can go regardless of importance. She might not be making badik money, but she's making money for her hobby.

And anyone with that kind of education and intelligence (and money) will tell you you don't waste your time with projects that have very little return to time investment.

Like I'm telling you

 

[Stan5851]

Regardless of how trivial it is, it's still an income stream. Anybody with money will tell ya that you stretch your income streams as far as they can go regardless of importance. She might not be making badik money, but she's making money for her hobby.

You may have forgotten (or even missed it, because this text mysteriously disappeared from this thread and remained only in discord), but I will remind you what was said there and how.

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And if all these years you've positioned your game as a hobby and a favorite brainchild, why worry so much about some nonsense, because you have a bunch of successful LLCs that you manage? Don't you think something doesn't add up here and that such concern says something?

 

[motseer]

Well, this is certainly a deep and inciteful (No, that's not a misspell. Think about it.) conversation. It's mostly over my head, but what I can say is that I've always done the best I could with whatever I was given. It can be as simple as that.


Of course, it helps that I'm the best there ever was at anything I've ever tried. Jus' Sayin'

 

[Merlin-Magic]

And anyone with that kind of education and intelligence (and money) will tell you you don't waste your time with projects that have very little return to time investment.

Like I'm telling you

This is especially true in the current gaming climate. It would make no economic sense. You have to be really crazy, to be starting a game like this one, right now. You are asking for a whole LOT of trouble and basically, almost no income (or none if you get banned).
It does make a huge difference where you live. In some countries $10 is a whole lot of money. Where I live, it take almost $50 for a decent lunch. No one would EVER make a game where I am, unless they were really rich, cared nothing about money and were borderline fanatical about their love of doing it.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Well, this is certainly a deep and inciteful (No, that's not a misspell. Think about it.) conversation. It's mostly over my head, but what I can say is that I've always done the best I could with whatever I was given. It can be as simple as that.


Of course, it helps that I'm the best there ever was at anything I've ever tried. Jus' Sayin'

Sounds like were having some twilight mysteriousness in this forum... Very interesting to see these.... conversations take place....

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[motseer]

Sounds like were having some twilight mysteriousness in this forum... Very interesting to see these.... conversations take place....

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Wonder what those guys have to say about it all... Probably something like, "Lemngoftablblegh umm signaot i uht fome?"

 

[daffyrolls94]

This is especially true in the current gaming climate. It would make no economic sense. You have to be really crazy, to be starting a game like this one, right now. You are asking for a whole LOT of trouble and basically, almost no income (or none if you get banned).
It does make a huge difference where you live. In some countries $10 is a whole lot of money. Where I live, it take almost $50 for a decent lunch. No one would EVER make a game where I am, unless they were really rich, cared nothing about money and were borderline fanatical about their love of doing it.

Unless it does kick off. 4k a month = 48k annually which is 25k short of Sweden's (where she said she lives iirc) median household income. More than enough for one person in welfare state heaven, and all cus you made naughty pics using daz dolls. Although if it's still not your main income at that point you'd probably stop putting serious time into it eventually, assuming you ever did. Unless, of course, your main income stream is passive or requires very little work because you're a Rothschild or something. That's the impression I got from the dev providing us snippets about her life in the patreon posts. You gotta give yourself something to do, right?

 

[Maviarab]

Unless it does kick off. 4k a month = 48k annually which is 25k short of Sweden's (where she said she lives iirc) median household income. More than enough for one person in welfare state heaven, and all cus you made naughty pics using daz dolls. Although if it's still not your main income at that point you'd probably stop putting serious time into it eventually, assuming you ever did. Unless, of course, your main income stream is passive or requires very little work because you're a Rothschild or something. That's the impression I got from the dev providing us snippets about her life in the patreon posts. You gotta give yourself something to do, right?

She's not in Sweden lol. Not even the same continent.

 

[harsha_26]

Tess's pateon's post this week:

I may release this week on Discord my "Red Domination" ending like I did "The Lone Ranger" but this ending is more complicated to post because it has alternative sliding scale type things that can insert different people as servants and stuff. I count ALL of this as "one ending" how I think of things, but this one ending has some variations that were dependent on some things. For example, it depended on both Kane and Angelica's morality, relationship to each other (dom Kane to sub Angelica, or true alpha couple romance, etc.) So I'll only be able to really post one good variation on it (I'll probably do the evil Kane/evil Angelica alpha couple one because I had the most fun writing it to be honest!) Minor spoiler on it...one element of it was Angelica having err special fun with Kane and having many of the Karlssons as human furniture which as those that know me best know...I really, really, like this specific thing personally which in a weird way makes sense for a designer I suppose. But this is rare for me. (kinks I adore in my own game personally versus kinks I think are good for the story) I also sincerely LOVED writing the evil dom path with demon Kane but yeah...it is what it is...not going to rehash that again. You never know someday when the game is all done...I've learned about Definitive Editions after a game is complete.


I don't want to keep my hopes high because first of all, this game completion takes 5 more years or more. And also, even that definitive edition has to be released in platforms like patreon, steam, ich which wont be possible according to her older posts unless she makes Red Domination as a very lame and softcore ending. If you doms want to believe her, I feel pity for you. That's it.

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[Stan5851]

I don't want to keep my hopes high because first of all, this game completion takes 5 more years or more. And also, even that definitive edition has to be released in platforms like patreon, steam, ich which wont be possible according to her older posts unless she makes Red Domination as a very lame and softcore ending. If you doms want to believe her, I feel pity for you. That's it.

Stan5851 Maviarab

I don't understand a damn thing you're talking about. Maybe Mav, as a native English speaker, will understand you better. And I don't need anyone's pity, lol. All I understand is that she publishes another canceled ending (again) for some reason. I don't give a shit about the endings or her, let her do whatever she wants.