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MilesEdgeworth

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They hoping for a revenge path because the story demands it and it is logical to expect it, but yes it doesn't exist (at least a more direct form of revenge).. as confirmed indirectly and directly by tess many times..
Story may demand it, but if Kane has no reason to get revenge , why would he do so? Remember, callista has told Kane jackshit of the before times. As far as Kane knows, his moms dead and he's just participating in some random program to keep out of jail. Obviously Olivia being there tells him there's more to it, but he still would have no real reason to attack the Karlssons ( as a dom anyway).
 

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Story may demand it, but if Kane has no reason to get revenge , why would he do so? Remember, callista has told Kane jackshit of the before times. As far as Kane knows, his moms dead and he's just participating in some random program to keep out of jail. Obviously Olivia being there tells him there's more to it, but he still would have no real reason to attack the Karlssons ( as a dom anyway).
On the dom path, Kane meets the guy who attacked Seth.. Rob I think it was. He describes the people who hired him, which is Alessandra and Pat. Kane both knows that he was framed and who (the KG board) framed him.
 

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On the dom path, Kane meets the guy who attacked Seth.. Rob I think it was. He describes the people who hired him, which is Alessandra and Pat. Kane both knows that he was framed and who (the KG board) framed him.
Yeah that itself could be the reason for his revenge because karlssons are directly involved in Kane trap. And that's where he got his demon path opened (if you kill that rob). I don't know what more one want to take revenge on karlssons. Yes, there may be something beyond reason for karlsson's to do that thing (gambit plan, kane bomb etc), But the Kane in k9 knows nothing about it and only knows about rob, his attack on seth and his conversation before death. That's what he should primarily focus on. The Classic Poetic Revenge.

But, anyway, discussing or arguing about this does nothing substantial. Demon path is forever closed and also revenge too by the Femdom Queen Tess.
 
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harsha_26

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Yes...no.

Yes you do evil dom starting as K4. Can be evil all day long on the SubPath. Secondly, no, promoting from SubPath auto puts you on SS path, but you can get out of it. She will demote you to K5.

This in itself is not really a problem as barring some very simple changes, the dom path is the dom path (currently) regardless of rank. K9 just gets extra perks.

Finally, there is no real 'evil dom path' anymore....just take evil decisions. The scene with Jules and Dom will not change in 8.2 and if you wish to get on Evil Dominique's path, you can also do this in 8.2 by joining forces with her when she summons you (choose to go and see her).
God, this game is too complicated unless you take easy and expected routes. Not because players are lazy, but because Tess don't care about routes which are not so popular or routes which are not so dear to her. Yeah, not only demon but she clearly doomed overall evil dom path too. Stan5851 many times said this, but I blindly believed in tess that she does something to keep Evil Dom as unique and keep it active compare to good dom path. This game have too much baggage to bear for dom players.
 

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I agree with you to that extent. So far, there's absolutely no indication that a "revenge campaign" is possible.

However, we know that tensions are running high behind the scenes, and peace is only being maintained because of the current event. We also know that starting with version 0.9, everything will fall apart, and the factions will begin to take shape. It's already been announced that Kane will meet his father. I also assume that Kane will meet his mother and aunt.

It all depends on how Tess shapes the story from version 0.9 onward. Will it be possible to influence the course of these conversations? Will there be a way to influence the "cooperation" between the factions? And so on.
I mean yeah, civil war is destined, so based on factions, all can die (except ofcourse immortal goddesses veronica, astrid and delilah). But, whatever faction you choose, you will be forced to work with atleast one karlsson sister and you have to maintain that relation to the end of the game. There is no faction possible which can guarantee the Conquering over all the Karlssons.

But, yeah, we can assume olivia faction as non-karlsson if Kane can convince olivia that she does not belong to kalrssons but belong with her adopted family. That might be something interesting to see.
 

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I fail to see why evil dom Kane has any reason to rebel. Sure, he was wrongfully imprisoned by the Karlssons but that ordeal turned out to be a blessing in disguise. He got access to women, cars and mansions. He grew up poor but now through the Karlssons, he has managed to transform his life. Moreover, the Karlsson women have been nothing but nice to dom Kane. Good dom Kane might still want to rebel to change the Karlsson system why would evil Kane try to change a system that has only been beneficial to him?

Sub Kane has a much stronger reason to rebel given he has faced the perils of the system firsthand
 
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I fail to see why evil dom Kane has any reason to rebel. Sure, he was wrongfully imprisoned by the Karlssons but that ordeal turned out to be a blessing in disguise. He got access to women, cars and mansions. He grew up poor but now through the Karlssons, he has managed to transform his life. Moreover, the Karlsson women have been nothing but nice to dom Kane. Good dom Kane might still want to rebel to change the Karlsson system why would evil Kane try to change a system that has only been beneficial to him?

Sub Kane has a much stronger reason to rebel given he has faced the perils of the system firsthand
That's a wild thing to say. You act like there has never been a powerplay in world history.
 

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I fail to see why evil dom Kane has any reason to rebel. Sure, he was wrongfully imprisoned by the Karlssons but that ordeal turned out to be a blessing in disguise. He got access to women, cars and mansions. He grew up poor but now through the Karlssons, he has managed to transform his life. Moreover, the Karlsson women have been nothing but nice to dom Kane. Good dom Kane might still want to rebel to change the Karlsson system why would evil Kane try to change a system that has only been beneficial to him?

Sub Kane has a much stronger reason to rebel given he has faced the perils of the system firsthand
You are again not getting the point, Evil Dom Kane does not need to change the system. His Aim is to rule the same system created by the karlssons. But not with the karlssons as equal or under the karlssons as a employee. Why? Because he is evil and he is dominant. Plain and Simple.

Anyone with common sense can expect that a evil dominant's main purpose is nothing but dominant to something in a evil way, and according to this game, that something is none other than karlssons. And why revenge? Because Kane gets wrongfully trapped and beaten in prison. If he is enjoying everything given by karlssons, why would he kill the rob (the one who attacked on seth). Why the game has opened a new path called Demon at the very moment? Why not he just think like "Why I have to kill this man? Due to him and those invisible "karlssons", I got luxury and sex." But no, He killed that man and also sensed that someone higher authorities trapped him. But he is silent because he is looking for the right time and right rank.

He is not a good or netural person to work with them or to give them redemption and change them into good submissive women. That stuff is for Good Dominant path. In evil dom, he is there to takeover and become (may be) alexander or something even worse.

Even if I think this all nothing matters and only agree with you.. Then, remember that you can even play sub to dom path. Yes, it is more hard to get higher rank in this way. But, according to your reason of why sub is right for revenge, this sub to dom path is also viable for revenge. So, that's give more reason to him to become evil dom in future.

But.. As I said this again and again, no matter what we argue or discuss.. Entities like Patreon, Collectiveshout and mainly, Tess herself doomed this revenge path and it is not longer viable.
 
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You are again not getting the point, Evil Dom Kane does not need to change the system. His Aim is to rule the same system created by the karlssons. But not with the karlssons as equal or under the karlssons as a employee. Why? Because he is evil and he is dominant. Plain and Simple.

Anyone with common sense can expect that a evil dominant's main purpose is nothing but dominant to something in a evil way, and according to this game, that something is none other than karlssons. And why revenge? Because Kane gets wrongfully trapped and beaten in prison. If he is enjoying everything given by karlssons, why would he kill the rob (the one who attacked on seth). Why the game has opened a new path called Demon at the very moment? Why not he just think like "Why I have to kill this man? Due to him and those invisible "karlssons", I got luxury and sex." But no, He killed that man and also sensed that someone higher authorities trapped him. But he is silent because he is looking for the right time and right rank.

He is not a good or netural person to work with them or to give them redemption and change them into good submissive women. That stuff is for Good Dominant path. In evil dom, he is there to takeover and become (may be) alexander or something even worse.

Even if I think this all nothing matters and only agree with you.. Then, remember that you can even play sub to dom path. Yes, it is more hard to get higher rank in this way. But, according to your reason of why sub is right for revenge, this sub to dom path is also viable for revenge. So, that's give more reason to him to become evil dom in future.

But.. As I said this again and again, no matter what we argue or discuss.. Entities like Patreon, Collectiveshout and mainly, Tess herself doomed this revenge path and it is not longer viable.
Ok, so he will upend a system that he has known for like 10 days while subduing almost everyone in the system. Because he's a dominant guy that wants to be evil? How will he even manage to do that? At least in the revolt path, he has support from the DeKocks, Astrid, Yvette and Kiyomi. The very support he will likely lose if he too turned out to be evil and psychotic like Alexander

The scenario you mentioned as the Good dom path - you ally with the chosen Karlssons and then punish the others or try to redeem them, is still logical.

The demon path for evil Kane was that he will join forces with the likes of Juliette, Phoebe, Celeste etc and partake in their more severe activities.Which was cut for one reason or the other. Not for a solo Kane to turn every Karlsson girl and their lackeys into whipping posts or human furniture.

The sub to dom route is a valid point but that route has had irregularities from the start. I'd rather say that the cancelled burn everything ending in Kiyomi's path is simpler to write into the story. After all, it's far easier to burn an empire down than govern it
 

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Ok, so he will upend a system that he has known for like 10 days while subduing almost everyone in the system. Because he's a dominant guy that wants to be evil? How will he even manage to do that? At least in the revolt path, he has support from the DeKocks, Astrid, Yvette and Kiyomi. The very support he will likely lose if he too turned out to be evil and psychotic like Alexander

The scenario you mentioned as the Good dom path - you ally with the chosen Karlssons and then punish the others or try to redeem them, is still logical.

The demon path for evil Kane was that he will join forces with the likes of Juliette, Phoebe, Celeste etc and partake in their more severe activities.Which was cut for one reason or the other. Not for a solo Kane to turn every Karlsson girl and their lackeys into whipping posts or human furniture.

The sub to dom route is a valid point but that route has had irregularities from the start. I'd rather say that the cancelled burn everything ending in Kiyomi's path is simpler to write into the story. After all, it's far easier to burn an empire down than govern it
See whether Kane achieves the true evil dom ending or not and how many people will support him in this single controlled Evil Dom is for future to decide, but the game gives a valid reason for Kane to atleast try for revenge is all i'm saying. Demon Path is may be working with juliette but how far it goes or how many choices will we have to turn the situation in later episodes.. is we know nothing about. Anything is possible. One thing is clear that, Kane is not at all happy with the rob guy and the invisible persons who trapped him. And he exactly knews somehow karlssons are involved in this.

And regarding Kane becoming next alexander, again I dont know how far it will success, but game gives you a hint already that it is a possible path (not now because it is doomed already) is through by katsumi. She expects you to become next alexander, fuck everything and rise above everyone else. What does it mean? Is it not evil dom? The thing you explain for demon path working with juli, celeste etc is not evil dom. I agree. Atleast at the present stage. It is more of Evil Partner/Harem Route (though it is doomed anyway).

And what you think Nadia and Cynthia will prefer? These are also Decocks. They will support you more if you prefer ruling over karlssons but not working with them alongside. And they clearly are more into evil side than Dom Side. Through Cynthia, Nadia and might be (or not be) Delilah too, You will get more than enough support from Decocks. And your pod girl Angelica, Katsumi will help you all along. Dominique is a big submissive girl and also Olivia can be a sub and is flexible in all factions. So, yeah enough support for kane becoming next alexander even without demon path.

You know the plot point of cancelled demon ending that is Red Domination? Tess said this as one possibility but not only the one. Angelica is your second in command (who is your pod girl, ranks at present very low even to you and not at all belong to karlssons) and she, along with you ruling over karlsson and keeping them as human furniture.


So, yeah, some of my reasons may be not as much as convincing to you. But you have to agree that game is giving you more than enough reason to atleast think of mere possibility of revenge in evil dom path irrespective of how much it will be successful in execution. Regarding sub to dom path. Yeah, it have irregularities but you cant players for playing that path and expecting things. You have to blame tess on why she still allowing these irregularity paths and giving chance to players to expect something which is already doomed anyway.
 

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Ok, so he will upend a system that he has known for like 10 days while subduing almost everyone in the system. Because he's a dominant guy that wants to be evil? How will he even manage to do that? At least in the revolt path, he has support from the DeKocks, Astrid, Yvette and Kiyomi. The very support he will likely lose if he too turned out to be evil and psychotic like Alexander
See whether Kane achieves the true evil dom ending or not and how many people will support him in this single controlled Evil Dom is for future to decide, but the game gives a valid reason for Kane to atleast try for revenge is all i'm saying.
You all are arguing about fictional events as if they're IRL. Clearly both good and evil options are and will continue to be in the game, because they have nothing to do "morality" and everything to do with how hardcore the bdsm scenes are going to be. The dev may have talked about implementing more variations of those "paths" (fetishes) before but has since realized it would be far more work than its worth, not to mention risking TOS violation. She probably wants to put this game in the rearview mirror quickly as possible so she can move on to her - sorry, her assistant's - next VN which will be less risky for TOS and probably nowhere near as popular as this one for that very reason.
 
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