VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 TestB] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[RNasc4444]

Absolutly agree on this. I think Veroinca and Dominique are actually the worst of the sisters. Juliette and Alessandra are just fucking psychopaths that are seriously fucked in the head. Dominique actually understands what she's doing is wrong but still enjoys it. Veronica on the other hand is trying to justify everything with the greater good ... but if she is such a fucking genius as the game tells you all the time, she should have tried to find a better way.

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I think its a big miss that there will be no ending in which Kane frees himself with help of the revolution and can go on a murder spree and gets to kill off all the fucked up bitches - including Veronica. Basically a let the world burn ending in which Kane can destroy all of Veronica's work and dooms the world, just because he has seen the worst of humanity and doesn't think it's worth saving.

I think my biggest criticism of the game is that it is very often just too evil to actually enjoy it as fapping material. But maybe thats just me

Holy fucking yes! THANK YOU! So much this! I couldn't possibly agree more!

As someone who's been "stuck" at the end of chapter 6 for like 2 years because the kinks and the nature of this VN is so hard to digest it almost makes me sick, all I want or care about is the complete obliteration of The Karlsson Group and anyone that's a part of it. At least everyone ranked K5 and above. I'd like to decimate The Cocks too eventually but the Karlsson's come first.

And the fastest way to do it is to kill Veronica. Then that disgusting bitch Calista and Olivia. Elena and Yvette are inconsequential and the other sister bitches would run the Group down into the dirt in a week with Veronica, Calista and Olivia out of the picture.

I remember hating most of these characters so much I used to fantasize about them getting the Clarence Darby "treatment" in Law Abiding Citizen

I mean really, how does Kane resist the urge to bash in the skull of every character he meets since the moment Elena intrduced herself to him? These people are pure evil.

 

[harsha_26]

I say that because Tess introduced herself like grymm gudina just like Alessandra does. That plus might just be me but those two resemble each other

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Shit.. Now it's awkward to think that the one I hate the most resembles and could be alter ego to dev herself lol. Why god.. Why??

 

[harsha_26]

Holy fucking yes! THANK YOU! So much this! I couldn't possibly agree more!

As someone who's been "stuck" at the end of chapter 6 for like 2 years because the kinks and the nature of this VN is so hard to digest it almost makes me sick, all I want or care about is the complete obliteration of The Karlsson Group and anyone that's a part of it. At least everyone ranked K5 and above. I'd like to decimate The Cocks too eventually but the Karlsson's come first.

And the fastest way to do it is to kill Veronica. Then that disgusting bitch Calista and Olivia. Elena and Yvette are inconsequential and the other sister bitches would run the Group down into the dirt in a week with Veronica, Calista and Olivia out of the picture.

I remember hating most of these characters so much I used to fantasize about them getting the Clarence Darby "treatment" in Law Abiding Citizen

I mean really, how does Kane resist the urge to bash in the skull of every character he meets since the moment Elena intrduced herself to him? These people are pure evil.

Where are players like you all these days lol. I thought i'm the only one having revenge thoughts on Karlssons in the absolute sense.

 

[minibaer12]

Where are players like you all these days lol. I thought i'm the only one having revenge thoughts on Karlssons in the absolute sense.

May I remind you of my 4th path => Revolution Path Special, where my Kane is openly against everyone and everything?

But you don't know my 6th path, which I won't spoil, because the enemy is listening in!!!

 

[RNasc4444]

Where are players like you all these days lol. I thought i'm the only one having revenge thoughts on Karlssons in the absolute sense.

Probably just lurking as I usually do in this thread

Most people here just go along with the sickening premise. Discussing how utterly evil, sinister or morally abhorrent the actions of most of the characters are doesn't come up nearly as much as I'd like it to.

I'm the one in the corner rooting for the asteroid to do this VN world a favor and wipe it from existence because there is nothing or anyone on there worth saving

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Shit.. Now it's awkward to think that the one I hate the most resembles and could be alter ego to dev herself lol. Why god.. Why??

my bad

Where are players like you all these days lol. I thought i'm the only one having revenge thoughts on Karlssons in the absolute sense.

Tess got rid of the demon path to get rid of these players. Her attempts seem to have been largely sucessful

 

[harsha_26]

May I remind you of my 4th path => Revolution Path Special, where my Kane is openly against everyone and everything?

But you don't know my 6th path, which I won't spoil, because the enemy is listening in!!!

Hmmm.. Now, I think for revenge paths (if tess ever have plans for it), revolution path looks better lol. I mean Faction C (evil). Revolution doesn't mean only good and democracy right???
But you have consider one point, Alesandra is in faction C (evil)..

 

[harsha_26]

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Tess got rid of the demon path to get rid of these players. Her attempts seem to have been largely sucessful

Unfortunately that's true. Hope Tess does more shit (and she will), so that still hanging players like me can also get triggered and leave this game to be in peace lol.

 

[Deleted member 1258732]

I also think good Olivia on sub path feels very off. Even though she tries to keep her morals good, she still participates in extremly fucked up stuff. If we have the possiblity to play her as a good person there should be more chances to actually be one.

Also it is just sooo hard to actually like at least some of the female characters because so many of them getting off on people dying of starvation or just accepting this because ... well fuck people.

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No. I can definitely say it's not just you.

But yes, there are more in doms that support the "good domination" compare to evil dom. In evil dom also, some dom players want to work alongside evil sisters and have evil romance instead of burning or over throwing them under his legs.

Most of the players who truly want to burn the karlssons (*Long Ranger) or atleast have them all under his legs (*Red Domination) have left this game already except players like me still hanging to it somehow.

*Note if you are not familiar: Long Ranger and Red Domination are cancelled endings.

 

[Deleted member 1258732]

*Note if you are not familiar: Long Ranger and Red Domination are cancelled endings.

What was supposed to happen in those endings?

 

[RNasc4444]

I also think good Olivia on sub path feels very off. Even though she tries to keep her morals good, she still participates in extremly fucked up stuff. If we have the possiblity to play her as a good person there should be more chances to actually be one.

There's no shred of goodness or kindness in her. She needs to be offed too. Don't forget she is colluding with Calista. Every breath and every move out of her is simply acting. She is playing a part. She is deceiving and manipulating everyone and everything.

Like you said, at least Juliette and Alessandra are openly evil. They are transparent with their feelings and desires for the most part. Characters like Olivia are the ones you need to worry about.

 

[Deleted member 1258732]

There's no shred of goodness or kindness in her. She needs to be offed too. Don't forget she is colluding with Calista. Every breath and every move out of her is simply acting. She is playing a part. She is deceiving and manipulating everyone and everything.


Like you said, at least Juliette and Alessandra are openly evil. They are transparent with their feelings and desires for the most part. Characters like Olivia are the ones you need to worry about.

What feels really strange, that if you are on dom path, good Olivia seems much better, simply because you are not involved with her that much. But the fact that you don't even get some kind of dommy mommy path with her feels off. I actually enjoy the writing for evil Olivia much more because then at least she feels as fucked up as Juliette and Alessandra. Not that I like evil Olivia, but at least she feels consitent.

 

[Deleted member 1258732]

Holy fucking yes! THANK YOU! So much this! I couldn't possibly agree more!

As someone who's been "stuck" at the end of chapter 6 for like 2 years because the kinks and the nature of this VN is so hard to digest it almost makes me sick, all I want or care about is the complete obliteration of The Karlsson Group and anyone that's a part of it. At least everyone ranked K5 and above. I'd like to decimate The Cocks too eventually but the Karlsson's come first.

And the fastest way to do it is to kill Veronica. Then that disgusting bitch Calista and Olivia. Elena and Yvette are inconsequential and the other sister bitches would run the Group down into the dirt in a week with Veronica, Calista and Olivia out of the picture.

I remember hating most of these characters so much I used to fantasize about them getting the Clarence Darby "treatment" in Law Abiding Citizen

I mean really, how does Kane resist the urge to bash in the skull of every character he meets since the moment Elena intrduced herself to him? These people are pure evil.

I didn't knew the movie so I looked up the scene on youtube (now have to watch that movie ) but you are absolutly right. The fact nobody seems to get any kind of comeuppance for the shit they do in this game feels so off. I take everything back if we actually get an ending where everybody gets what they deserve, but at least it seems like at least Veronica is not getting her punishment ...
And yes some scenes are just so fucking terrible to watch/read. Femdom and BDSM is so much about trust in real life, and I know this all just fantasy stuff but holy shit. For example the scene where Olivia and Kasumi enjoying Seth getting tortured is just too much.

 

[Rectory]

Hello, please someone share their saves file who follow both sub and dom paths, like a completionist route. Both seasons saves files

 

[hoochimama]

I wonder how anyone can feel bad about evil Olivia when the player is the one controlling her, pulling her strings, the one forcing her to act her that way. I would've loved to play a sub Kane vs evil domme Olivia but I fear having to play as both the protagonist/victim and his antagonist/abuser will feel like I'm just playing against myself.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Yea, good Olivia won't even let Kane kill someone in front of her. I do wonder how good olivia treats sub kane

 

[Deleted member 1258732]

Yea, good Olivia won't even let Kane kill someone in front of her. I do wonder how good olivia treats sub kane

Not really good, I mean you can decide if she treats Kane super fucked up or just like a slave. But she can't really treat him good or be really protective of him. The further the game goes, the more evil it gets. In the beginning she can actually try to help him but at some point it's basically just skip scenes for good Olivia or just being evil, but not extremly evil. But at least for my playthroughs a dominant (My sub Olivia/sub Kane playthrough didn't went that far but it didn't felt that different) Olivia will always treat sub Kane as a sub human.

 

[harsha_26]

I wonder how anyone can feel bad about evil Olivia when the player is the one controlling her, pulling her strings, the one forcing her to act her that way. I would've loved to play a sub Kane vs evil domme Olivia but I fear having to play as both the protagonist/victim and his antagonist/abuser will feel like I'm just playing against myself.

I have issues with Olivia attitude too, but keeping them aside.. We have to observe one thing that is.. Olivia sub (good and evil) haven't started yet except for one dialogue. We have to see this hate on Olivia comes down after those paths developed in a significant way.

 

[Grygus]

I think its a big miss that there will be no ending in which Kane frees himself with help of the revolution and can go on a murder spree and gets to kill off all the fucked up bitches - including Veronica. Basically a let the world burn ending in which Kane can destroy all of Veronica's work and dooms the world, just because he has seen the worst of humanity and doesn't think it's worth saving.

Siding with Juliette seems likely to be the same thing since she simply may not care about survival of the species as long as she is the last survivor.

 

[harsha_26]

Is it possible to play evil revolution in true dom path? If yes, how? As far as I know, Junko is the key and we should be in good heart to get her points.