VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 TestB] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

Did i miss something? Why do you think she is sadistic? I had hope she would be my LI for the good dom Kane.

I didn't mean sadistic in a Juliette type of way, maybe my terminology was off there but more in a way that...Chloe will literally be an obediant puppy and do and agree to whatever to try and advance....where as Angelica with her 'attitude'....given where she comes from (so let's not forget, is probably a savage in her region and took no shit, which is my hinted opinion of the area up north)...is kinda bad ass and would probably quite enjoy some extreme stuff, if for no other reason, than to just prove a point, advance and get out of there (remember, hints she could be a good envoy for her region).

I just get the impression of her (perhaps wrongly) that she would be extremely useful to us (as a high rank) as either good or evil Kane (someone who will get the job done and be quite happy to fuck up someone she disliked), in comparison to say, Amy or Kelly, who I could never see doing anything 'extreme' even if their life depended on it.

Just my thoughts and opinions given the information we have been told...which could be way off base admittedly heh but given she is already earmarked by the 'higher ups' as someone with great potential...remember perhaps what 'great potential' means to most of the Karlsson group lol. I also don't say any of that in a bad way, I actually really like her character within the pod.

 

[Stan5851]

I didn't mean sadistic in a Juliette type of way, maybe my terminology was off there but more in a way that...Chloe will literally be an obediant puppy and do and agree to whatever to try and advance....where as Angelica with her 'attitude'....given where she comes from (so let's not forget, is probably a savage in her region and took no shit, which is my hinted opinion of the area up north)...is kinda bad ass and would probably quite enjoy some extreme stuff, if for no other reason, than to just prove a point, advance and get out of there (remember, hints she could be a good envoy for her region).

I just get the impression of her (perhaps wrongly) that she would be extremely useful to us (as a high rank) as either good or evil Kane (someone who will get the job done and be quite happy to fuck up someone she disliked), in comparison to say, Amy or Kelly, who I could never see doing anything 'extreme' even if their life depended on it.

Just my thoughts and opinions given the information we have been told...which could be way off base admittedly heh but given she is already earmarked by the 'higher ups' as someone with great potential...remember perhaps what 'great potential' means to most of the Karlsson group lol. I also don't say any of that in a bad way, I actually really like her character within the pod.

You've laid it out perfectly and I agree with that analysis. As for Chloe - I don't like people who are willing to cut their neighbors' throats just to jump up a notch. Besides, we have Kitty and we know what she is valued for and what qualities she possesses. So the fewer women like Katsumi (Kitty) at Karlsson's disposal, the better. And I won't let Chloe get too high no matter what. On the other hand, Angelica could really make a good leader, decent enough and loyal enough to Kane.. (and even his potential LI).

 

[Maviarab]

You've laid it out perfectly and I agree with that analysis. As for Chloe - I don't like people who are willing to cut their neighbors' throats just to jump up a notch. Besides, we have Kitty and we know what she is valued for and what qualities she possesses. So the fewer women like Katsumi (Kitty) at Karlsson's disposal, the better. And I won't let Chloe get too high no matter what. On the other hand, Angelica could really make a good leader, decent enough and loyal enough to Kane.. (and even his potential LI).

Yup...and thanks. I didn't articulate myself properly at first so hope that other post made more sense for Cirelc.

It's an interesting Pod for me...Amy...well...she may never get anywhere (may be scripted that she doesn't for all we know) but she is so adorable and I just want to look after her. Like with motseer, if that is to happen, as long she becomes 'our sex slave' then at least (if on that kinda good route) we can take care of her somewhat in private and if choices made, I think she already looks up to us somewhat and knows we won't hurt her. Kelly...seems the enigma to me, absolutely nothing about her at all in my opinion...no outstanding quality anywhere, for anything. I think she the 'meh..what happens to her happens to her' character of the group (and I have no interest in her at all). Chloe, as you say, she dangerous only in the fact that she seems to have zero morals...about anything. Sure, she obedient but as said in my previous, she understands the situation and will just do it to be a good puppy. She be useful for Katsumi imo...but like yourself, I'd rather not be giving Kitty any more girls if I can help it.

Back to Angelica, she strikes me a little like our old pal (is he still a pal even at this stage) Jake. She understands her situation, but refuses to accept it. Like Jake currently, that's only going to lead down one road. We're going to have to help her adjust...if only in the short term to help her help herself...and thus in time, help us. I think (hope) she will get this and yes, could be a very loyal and incredibly useful person for us and yes, potential LI...though I imagine she will only ever be a 'side-girl LI'...rather than a full blown like the sisters. You can tell she is fiery...full of passion and steel...and won't take any shit from anyone she doesn't have to. If we could get to a stage of getting her to a K10/Z1 also (when we are higher ourselves), we could offer her a lot of protection from others in exchange for said loyalty, though I think if we protect her as much as we can and help her reign in her attitude, that loyalty would probably be given freely.

She is certainly my favourite of the group by a large margin (Amy aside, but Amy is like a favourite pet you just want to hug heh).

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

chloe depends on how much i want a Juliette type under my control. That being said, Im currently hoping mistress tess lets us corrupt angelica

 

[motseer]

Yup...and thanks. I didn't articulate myself properly at first so hope that other post made more sense for Cirelc.

It's an interesting Pod for me...Amy...well...she may never get anywhere (may be scripted that she doesn't for all we know) but she is so adorable and I just want to look after her. Like with motseer, if that is to happen, as long she becomes 'our sex slave' then at least (if on that kinda good route) we can take care of her somewhat in private and if choices made, I think she already looks up to us somewhat and knows we won't hurt her. Kelly...seems the enigma to me, absolutely nothing about her at all in my opinion...no outstanding quality anywhere, for anything. I think she the 'meh..what happens to her happens to her' character of the group (and I have no interest in her at all). Chloe, as you say, she dangerous only in the fact that she seems to have zero morals...about anything. Sure, she obedient but as said in my previous, she understands the situation and will just do it to be a good puppy. She be useful for Katsumi imo...but like yourself, I'd rather not be giving Kitty any more girls if I can help it.

Back to Angelica, she strikes me a llittle like our old pal (is he still a pal even at this stage) Jake. She understands her situation, but refuses to accept it. Like Jake currently, that's only going to lead down one road. We're going to have to help her adjust...if only in the short term to help her help herself...and thus in time, help us. I think (hope) she will get this and yes, could be a very loyal and incredibly useful person for us and yes, potential LI...though I imagine she will only ever be a 'side-girl LI'...rather than a full blown like the sisters. You can tell she is fiery...full of passion and steel...and won't take any shit from anyone she doesn;t have to. If we could get to a stage of getting her to a Z1 also (when we are higher ourselves), we could offer her a lot of protection from others in exchange for said loyalty, though I think if we protect her as much as we can and help her reign in her attitude, that loyalty would probably be given freely.

She is certainly my favourite of the group by a large margin (Amy aside, but Amy is like a favourite pet you just want to hug heh).

I can't really add anything to that because it's what I would've said... I'll just say I hope we can protect Amy and show Angelica how to survive and flourish. Maybe even make her a lieutenant in our personal guard down the road.

 

[risky0]

Chloe Evil dom / Angelica Good dom

Chloe will do anything to achieve her goals. That's why she treats her superiors submissively.
But this is not her true nature.

I need both for the route I'm playing. But we have to choose one.

Chloe's more useful to me because she's not afraid to get her hands dirty.
Especially since there are cunts I'd like to kill.
I can compare her relationship with Mc to the relationship between Elena and Katsumi, so I'm not worried about loyalty.

 

[Maviarab]

Chloe Evil dom / Angelica Good dom

Chloe will do anything to achieve her goals. That's why she treats her superiors submissively.
But this is not his true nature.

I need both for the route I'm playing. But we have to choose one.

Chloe's more useful to me because she's not afraid to get her hands dirty.
Especially since there are cunts I'd like to kill.
I can compare her relationship with Mc to the relationship between Elena and Katsumi, so I'm not worried about loyalty.

Very fair points if on the evil route and would actually agree with picking Chloe in that route.

However, blind loyalty based on career progression is a very fickle thing, and that kind of loyalty is always paper thin. Loyalty based purely upon the person..who they are...how they act...treat you...will always be more solid...every single time. Even in my own personal and business life, I've never had time for people loyal to me just to help/progress themselves. They will betray you sooner or later because you're ultimately just a tool to them. There is no respect there.

 

[Maviarab]

Kinda related but don't want to add/edit a previous post.

Easy to forget but important nontheless to perhaps bear in mind, is that Chloe is actually a slave of Dominique's IIRC (and the family/character tree PDF is correct). Given Chloe's personality traits, this could perhaps have some relevence/importance depending on which path you are on with Dominique (good/evil) and whether persuing a romance option with her....

Just some food for the proverbial thoughts to throw out there.

 

[Zod666]

Miss Tess posted this today View attachment 3112966

So dom path is unlikely to have Elena/Kat, was actually hopping for Elena+Kat evil dom path, oh well.

 

[Cirelc]

Yup...and thanks. I didn't articulate myself properly at first so hope that other post made more sense for Cirelc.

Yes, ty.

So dom path is unlikely to have Elena/Kat, was actually hopping for Elena+Kat evil dom path, oh well.

In my opinion she forgot to mention Katsumi on the dom path, because you can activate her romance flag in Episode 3 and Episode 4 and you took her V Card and you open the JunkoSlave Path only with an active Katsumi Romance, too.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Yes, ty.


In my opinion she forgot to mention Katsumi on the dom path, because you can activate her romance flag in Episode 3 and Episode 4 and you took her V Card and you open the JunkoSlave Path only with an active Katsumi Romance, too.

She did say that all the routes mentioned in that post were off the top of her head lol… tho I do wonder what “Not disclosed but hard to explain: Kiyomi, Phoebe, Chanel, Delilah” means, since you can agree to be Kiyomi’s sub… not sure tho

 

[Maviarab]

She did say that all the routes mentioned in that post were off the top of her head lol… tho I do wonder what “Not disclosed but hard to explain: Kiyomi, Phoebe, Chanel, Delilah” means, since you can agree to be Kiyomi’s sub… not sure tho

I think that comment is Tess keeping a few things close to her chest. And good for her. While it's nice to know who is and isn't going to be romanceable, and I get why people want to know, it's good to still have some surprises and unknowns in my opinion...otherwise, if you know everything...why even bother playing?

The opinion of people who will only ever play once, a very detailed and calculated path...then never explore anything else don't really matter to me, I couldn't care less about their opinion, the beauty of a VN like this is exploring all the paths, seeing all the content, romancing different LI's in different saves to see the differences. Otherwise it may as well be a KN. So I hope Tess doesn't reveal everything personally.

 

[Cirelc]

She did say that all the routes mentioned in that post were off the top of her head lol… tho I do wonder what “Not disclosed but hard to explain: Kiyomi, Phoebe, Chanel, Delilah” means, since you can agree to be Kiyomi’s sub… not sure tho

Kyiomi is bound to a honor code and she never lies. So probably you have to keep up her high standards. I could look for an 2year old post from Tess herself, but forgive me that i don't do that, because no idea if its still the truth.

Phoebe will be your Teacher and is involved with both DeCock and Karlssons. So if there will be a romance path that will be a rollercoaster.

Chanel no clue. Delilah was a confirmed LI 2y ago for the evil dom path, but things can change and lets not forget she is a DeKock... You have to fail the Gambit and ally with DeKock? And i guess your true sister would murder Delilah, if you romance her. (just speculations)

 

[desperatecub02]

why do they have guns are they going to kill anyone? i havent played it id love to to see if they shoot the slaves or get really annoyed

 

[Silver_Crow117]

I think that comment is Tess keeping a few things close to her chest. And good for her. While it's nice to know who is and isn't going to be romanceable, and I get why people want to know, it's good to still have some surprises and unknowns in my opinion...otherwise, if you know everything...why even bother playing?

The opinion of people who will only ever play once, a very detailed and calculated path...then never explore anything else don't really matter to me, I couldn't care less about their opinion, the beauty of a VN like this is exploring all the paths, seeing all the content, romancing different LI's in different saves to see the differences. Otherwise it may as well be a KN. So I hope Tess doesn't reveal everything personally.

Yeah I don’t want every path revealed sub or not! Though it is nice to see some of the options so far! And I’m sure we haven’t seen all character paths yet!! I mean.. for the sub playthrough.. the only real Sponsorship you can have atm, Are Juliette and Dominique.. and there not even developed yet ahahaha and the only groups you can join atm are the vipers… no factions yet (tho I’m guessing it’s the Decocks)… So yeah I’m excited!! I’m personally a sub player but I do like the dom paths as well!!

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Kyiomi is bound to a honor code and she never lies. So probably you have to keep up her high standards. I could look for an 2year old post from Tess herself, but forgive me that i don't do that, because no idea if its still the truth.

Phoebe will be your Teacher and is involved with both DeCock and Karlssons. So if there will be a romance path that will be a rollercoaster.

Chanel no clue. Delilah was a confirmed LI 2y ago for the evil dom path, but things can change and lets not forget she is a DeKock... You have to fail the Gambit and ally with DeKock? And i guess your true sister would murder Delilah, if you romance her. (just speculations)

Yeah for Kiyomi there is a sub path set up, but I think it’ll be more complicated just like with Veronica sub path (I’ve mentioned it in previous posts)

with Phoebe, she will be?? I don’t remember that tbh… I’m mostly a sub player so it might be different..(she takes you as her sub after… her husband.. um “disappears”… I do like her character design a lot, but we’ll see..

I Feel like she’ll be both Sub and Dom but in a certain Circumstantial way… because Tess did say that “More sponsorships for sub path come later, there is an inflection point later where Kane needs to start trying to steer himself towards a certain faction/group if he can...” So I could imagine that we can side with the Decocks on both sub and Dom at some point…

 

[Maviarab]

Yeah for Kiyomi there is a sub path set up, but I think it’ll be more complicated just like with Veronica sub path (I’ve mentioned it in previous posts)

with Phoebe, she will be?? I don’t remember that tbh… I’m mostly a sub player so it might be different..(she takes you as her sub after… her husband.. um “disappears”… I do like her character design a lot, but we’ll see..

I Feel like she’ll be both Sub and Dom but in a certain Circumstantial way… because Tess did say that “More sponsorships for sub path come later, there is an inflection point later where Kane needs to start trying to steer himself towards a certain faction/group if he can...” So I could imagine that we can side with the Decocks on both sub and Dom at some point…

Yeah I would say the Pheobe sponsor and a future possible DeKock alliance are pretty much going to happen given what we know so far. How all that ties in and on which paths exactly who knows. Certainly interesting things to consider.

 

[Cirelc]

I’m mostly a sub player so it might be different..

My bad, i didn't ask for which path, because usually i only answer dom paths questions... (my intention wasn't to confuse you or spoiler you with irrelevant dom stuff)

with Phoebe, she will be?? I don’t remember that tbh…

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Yeah I would say the Pheobe sponsor and a future possible DeKock alliance are pretty much going to happen given what we know so far. How all that ties in and on which paths exactly who knows. Certainly interesting things to consider.

On the Dom evil Path Phoebe ally is tied to Olivia's Decision.

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[Silver_Crow117]

My bad, i didn't ask for which path, because usually i only answer dom paths questions... (my intention wasn't to confuse you or spoiler you with irrelevant dom stuff)

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No ur fine!! I find it really awesome how even tho, I’m a mostly sub player, and your a Dom player, we can still talk about this game because of so many possibilities!! I do think with Phoebe, there’s obviously a dom path with her, but I also think there’s a sub path as well (that’s why she left Phoebe ambiguous to the routes along with Delilah and Chanel)…. But we’ll see!

anyways, I know ur a dom player (but anyone can answer this), how do you think the gameshow we’ll work? How do pass/fail the events… I wonder how characters make participants fail?… here’s this from Tess (just hinting)

 

[Don Sucio]

I was replaying the game but this time choosing the option i would choose if i was Kane, not guiding me by my desires or the girls lookings, only choosen like if i really was Kane, with fear about my life and trying to survive... and i´m not doing it good , i´m stuck in K4 so my life there would be very bad...

But there is a thing i understand good, and is the desire for revenge of some people here, i have never had doubts about destroy the Karlsson family or even kill all sisters and save the slaves, but now playing with awareness i´m beginning to think the same... Is awfull how hard i´m trying to survive and the girls continue destroying all my survive attemps.

Knowing we are now in the half of the story i don´t know if it would be possible obtain revenge being a K4 now but i´going to save a path where i will do it if i can.