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Silver_Crow117

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aww the sub side is getting an extra dose of alessandra, the subs get all the luck
It’s about damn time!! Alessandra sub content for sub Kane has been long awaited!… plus it’ll be interesting to see how her faction forms if Kane chooses her side for the future episodes… such like the choice of being a snitch to the Dekocks or not…
 

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why would you trust her or be surprised she demoted you?
Because it's in her best interests to help you flourish, of course. She maybe is a snake, but she isn't dumb. She is trying to play the long game, to gain as much power and influence as possible (even if only to have maximum fun) and maybe to not be stuck in a position where she would have to do "boring stuff" most of the time. And Kane is her ticket to get just that. With his meteoritic rise and favor from basically everyone on the Board he is well positioned to become Z5, the supreme boss of the organization (with her pulling the strings from the shadows). The best part? She doesn't risk anything by helping him, but can get the ultimate prize. In fact, I'm surprised that she haven't become his sponsor the moment he revealed himself as secretly submissive. And if she is ready to throw all this away for one case of instant gratification... she isn't that smart then.
 

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What kind of nonsense did you write?
And why do you think he is trolling? I don't know how Tess thinks, so I can't guarantee anything but I discussed this topic with quite a few professional smut-writers out there and, basically, all of them agree on one thing: writing submissive content, generally, pays better. It's not to say that there are more submissives in the world, of course, but more of them a ready to pay and to pay big. And in regards to the Karlssons Gambit, the game about distopian future where it's easy to fall and difficult to rise, where you are starting at the bottom, where you can be secretly submissive, but, as far as I can say, can't be secretly dominant (pulling the strings from basically slave's position), and where all patrons are depicted as humiliated slaves... Is it such a stretch to assume that this game is geared more toward submissives?
 

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I just realized they banned me from the discord server. :(
I remember writing a really slight critique mixed with praises.
Are they really that insecure? Jeez.
Yes, yes she is. Some dom huh? hehe.

In fact, the more I think about it, my own experiences over the last 30 years, the more I think she is completely full of shit, saw a niche and saw it as a good way to make some money. Dominant? My cat is more dominant and secure than Tess is. I firmly believe she is in the mould of E. L. James, someone who thinks they know what they are talking about but in reality, are completely and utterly fucking clueless.
 
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And why do you think he is trolling? I don't know how Tess thinks, so I can't guarantee anything but I discussed this topic with quite a few professional smut-writers out there and, basically, all of them agree on one thing: writing submissive content, generally, pays better. It's not to say that there are more submissives in the world, of course, but more of them a ready to pay and to pay big. And in regards to the Karlssons Gambit, the game about distopian future where it's easy to fall and difficult to rise, where you are starting at the bottom, where you can be secretly submissive, but, as far as I can say, can't be secretly dominant (pulling the strings from basically slave's position), and where all patrons are depicted as humiliated slaves... Is it such a stretch to assume that this game is geared more toward submissives?
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All things aside the poll that you are referring to is years old, dev has pissed a substantial amount of Dom players after that especially when she decided to cut the evil Dom path because of some so called beggers.

Then there's the fact that when the little bit of Dom scenes that this game got, they could hardly be called Dom scenes but rather non sub/romantic scenes that in the premise of this game wouldn't be appreciated by anyone who was expecting some male domination in this game world.

Lately you can see there are not much suggestions from the Dom side, which suggests there aren't many Dom players supporting her work.

I would like for you to prove me otherwise but I think if there would be a poll on devs support pages ATM, sub supporters will surpass the Dom supporters by a huge margin.
 
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Yes, yes she is. Some dom huh? hehe.

In fact, the more I think about it, my own experiences over the last 30 years, the more I think she is completely full of shit, saw a niche and saw it as a good way to make some money. Dominant? My cat is more dominant and secure than Tess is. I firmly believe she is in the mould of E. L. James, someone who thinks they know what they are talking about but in reality, are completely and utterly fucking clueless.
I still think that my crack theory that she's actually a fat 35 year old neckbeard from Nebraska is correct.
 

Stan5851

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Then there's the fact that when the little bit of Dom scenes that this game got, they could hardly be called Dom scenes but rather non sub/romantic scenes that in the premise of this game wouldn't be appreciated by anyone who was expecting some male domination in this game world.
And this game has never been about "maledom". I'm not ready to answer the same questions/explain other people's misconceptions for the hundredth time, so just read this.
#10,589, #15,759, #15,678
I would like for you to prove me otherwise but I think if there would be a poll on devs support pages ATM, sub supporters will surpass the Dom supporters by a huge margin.
You can think whatever you want, but there are facts. If the Dom route wasn't in demand, if there weren't enough Dom players, Tess wouldn't be trying to give them enough content comparable (in volume) to Sub content, wouldn't be in the business of creating random sexual fantasies for them and things like that.

Besides, the main goal of the game is to get to the top, and that's what the Dom path allows you to do. And dev herself has written more than once that a game without the Dom path is too one-sided and pointless (I'm quoting from memory, but that's the meaning of the words).
All things aside the poll that you are referring to is years old
To be fair, this poll is only a little over a year old (Feb 2024), so it's not that old. However, I do remember her saying that after the results of that survey she was amazed at how high the number of Dom patrons her game had, and that it would make her think and even reconsider some things.

Anyway, the Dom route is still in demand, and there's no point in speculating about the actual number of Dom patrons now because even Tess doesn't have that data (or has, but prefers not to disclose:illuminati:).
 
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this game has never been about "maledom
Than why call it a Dom path? If it's only a get along with the Karlssons Sisters path.
The DomPath is also not dominant, it is grossly mislabelled. Call it an assetive path instead.
Well put this in the OP so nobody is deceived by the so called Dom path.
if there weren't enough Dom players
Well that is what I was saying there are only enough Dom players to keep the romance path floating. And that is what tess is doing, (and don't tell me you didn't notice) just keeping it afloat in terms of real sex scenes not the ones that are crucial for the plot of romance path. While sub+secret sub paths are buzzing with scenes and ideas and different situations, seems a little unfair that the so called Dom path is so bland as compared to the sub path. And definitely people will notice that and will be discouraged to keep supporting.
To be fair, this poll is only a little over a year old (Feb 2024), so it's not that old. However, I do remember her saying that after the results of that survey she was amazed at how high the number of Dom patrons her game had, and that it would make her think and even reconsider some things.
you are talking about that poll where she decided to nuke the evil Dom path lol that was so convoluted that it shouldn't even be called a poll and I am pretty sure people could choose multiple options from that poll which reduce it's credibility on number of players that it was showing. sub players might even have manipulated it just so dev cut the content that they don't want and so she has more time to make sub content. Also if so many people didn't care about that path according to that poll why was it that almost everyone here was either sad or outright pissed about that decision? I am pretty sure some of you that were expressing your disappointment here were actually her supporters at that time. The point I am making is that not everyone from here was a freebie but some of them were supporters, still almost everyone expressed disappointment over that decision.
 

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Than why call it a Dom path? If it's only a get along with the Karlssons Sisters path.
Because it's still the Dom route. But some players mistakenly expect "maledom" content from the game right from the start, whereas the whole story, as I've written before, is a "journey of climbing from slave to Caesar".

In game lore, it's been a little over 1 week and Dom Kane has accomplished a lot, rising to K9 rank.However, technically, until he gets to rank M (at the end of Pt 3, if the necessary conditions are met), he's still a slave.

Yeah, no one treats him that way, he's allowed a lot of things. He got his own luxury apartment, Bugatti, in 0.8.2 Dom Kane got his own personal slaves and his own harem of elite A+ slave girls...However, you have to realize that the way up is not yet done.Personally, I was happy with the Dom content of 0.8.2 and who our Dom Kane turned into. (I play all Dom routes, including EvilDom.
Of course he did. He started to understand a lot of things in general, and that can't help but make me glad. KaneDom in pt2, imo, changed dramatically, stopped being stupid (which happened to him from time to time before) and became much more proactive and attentive to details.

Kane started thinking strategically and learning from what he heard and thinking ahead...Not to mention his dramatically increased assertiveness and skyrocketing confidence in himself and his right to "be first among equals". We finally got the KaneDom we deserved from the very beginning of the game. And from what I've seen, I get the impression that the Karlssons decided not to wait until after the game show and decided to prepare KaneDom in advance for the M-->Z1 stage.
Perhaps the only scene that left me indifferent was the trio with Celeste and Phoebe. And I didn't like the fact that the dev once again decided to play “blackmail players with her own game” and cut back on the number of renders in the final dom scene of the update. But in general, this update is one of the best for me, because Dom route now shone with a whole new color.

Daenerys Targaryen didn't become the Mother of Dragons right away either, and took a long way to get to the top. Dom Kane is like her in that sense, with the only difference being that in this post-apocalyptic "Game of Thrones", it's a very comfortable path for him, where he's not getting fucked from behind by some unwashed barbarian and where he's moving toward his goal with a lot of confidence.

So there's no way I can agree that the Dom route turned out to be too boring and bland. Yes, the sub players obviously have more "fun" (I don't play the sub route), well the game show itself assumes they are the main participants.

Yes, I have a shitty relationship with Tess, yes I disagree with her attitude towards criticizing the game and a few other things, but that in no way negates the fact that for me (as a Dom player) the new 0.8.2 content was for the most part really good.
 
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Than why call it a Dom path? If it's only a get along with the Karlssons Sisters path.

Well put this in the OP so nobody is deceived by the so called Dom path.

Well that is what I was saying there are only enough Dom players to keep the romance path floating. And that is what tess is doing, (and don't tell me you didn't notice) just keeping it afloat in terms of real sex scenes not the ones that are crucial for the plot of romance path. While sub+secret sub paths are buzzing with scenes and ideas and different situations, seems a little unfair that the so called Dom path is so bland as compared to the sub path. And definitely people will notice that and will be discouraged to keep supporting.

you are talking about that poll where she decided to nuke the evil Dom path lol that was so convoluted that it shouldn't even be called a poll and I am pretty sure people could choose multiple options from that poll which reduce it's credibility on number of players that it was showing. sub players might even have manipulated it just so dev cut the content that they don't want and so she has more time to make sub content. Also if so many people didn't care about that path according to that poll why was it that almost everyone here was either sad or outright pissed about that decision? I am pretty sure some of you that were expressing your disappointment here were actually her supporters at that time. The point I am making is that not everyone from here was a freebie but some of them were supporters, still almost everyone expressed disappointment over that decision.
I agree with you. Dom paths ingame are mild while sub path are pretty hardcore wild. Now that Kane was somewhat going to get some power dev axed evil path, so no hardcore scenes. few days ago I also posted about how i think Kane is getting fucked on dom paths that he don't even have option to lead all factions such as faction B meanwhile Olivia can lead every faction with permanent ally Elena and chanel.

It looks like dev can only think from Olivia prespective and coming short on Kane pov. Dev might be mostly pushing their personal views about Femdom and cannot fathom hardcore maledom. (like i'm not able to play sub paths).
 
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I agree with you. Dom paths ingame are mild while sub path are pretty hardcore wild. Now that Kane was somewhat going to get some power dev axed evil path, so no hardcore scenes. few days ago I also posted about how i think Kane is getting fucked on dom paths that he don't even have option to lead all factions such as faction B meanwhile Olivia can lead every faction with permanent ally Elena and chanel.

It looks like dev can only think from Olivia prespective and coming short on Kane pov. Dev might be mostly pushing their personal views about Femdom and cannot fathom hardcore maledom. (like i'm not able to play sub paths).
Yeah people have pointed that out too, i forgot to mention, dev really put her heart into Olivia's actions/scenes, what she can get and Kane is left behind like a third wheel. Even though if I remember correctly Olivia started if not with Kane then not much time before Kane started.
 

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Dev might be mostly pushing their personal views about Femdom and cannot hardcore maledom. (like i'm not able to play sub paths).
I suppose the moment of truth will come in Ep9 when Dom Kane stops being a formal slave and takes a leadership position. That's when it will become clear - whether dev can't or just doesn't want to. But for now, in terms of plot, it's pretty hard to pick on it any way you look at it.

As for the subs, I don't know at what point I should start envying those guys. To begin with, the “extreme” content they get just demeans their Kane and makes him look like a complete nonentity. So such references to the "more hardcore sub path" seem pretty dubious to me.
 
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MilesEdgeworth

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Did success go to Tess's head ? Two years ago, she was on this forum conversing about the game. She even took Stan's suggestion of upgrading Angelica's position in the game, now Im hearing horror stories of people being booted for being critical. Is that Tess, or are her mods a little overprotective?
 
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