VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 TestB] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[PickerLewd]

I haven't seen this render on the Dom route, so most likely it's 100% a sub-route. But I'm not surprised at all that Kiyomi is just as two-faced as everyone else.

I don't remember it very well, but I think it's an exclusive scene at the beginning of the game if you're playing as K3.

Kiyomi approaches you and offers you the chance to join her side, this scene involves threats.

Then again, maybe it's not that scene; however, the background and wall of the dungeon is very similar .

 

[kinkyshin]

No, there is an exclusive k3 scene that takes place at this location where Olivia can pee on Kane (this is where the k3 men sleep after all). However, the scene I posted above actually happens earlier than that if Kane doesn't agree to be Scarlett's pet or Junko's pet when he's on the airplane. They bring him there to offer him to be the viperpet, and I guess they show him the k3 zone for some extra encouragement to say yes.

But I don't think that Kiyomi is two-faced though. Seems to me that Tess had different plans with Kiyomi initially where she was supposed to be more like her sister but then did a 180 on her and made her righteous. I posted the image below because look at her dialogue. She even used to speak like Katsumi.

Oh my, so much lovely Phoebe

Hell yea. She can be evil Kane's new mommy after Callista disowns him for trying to be the next Alexander Karlsson.
God forbid a man has some goals in life.

 

[akki_sky]

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I know who she is. I was waiting for her to show Kane around mine next day but it did not happened. I think this scene was deliberate so she can fail and Kane can punish her sexually and later give order to throw her down. Her failure is not Kane's failure, What Kane do with her could be his test.

 

[jadepaladin]

But I don't think that Kiyomi is two-faced though. Seems to me that Tess had different plans with Kiyomi initially where she was supposed to be more like her sister but then did a 180 on her and made her righteous. I posted the image below because look at her dialogue. She even used to speak like Katsumi..

I'd rather her be two faced than be a writing failure.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I wonder if old Kiyomi wouldve been hanging around with Juliette over veronica. I assume her association with Veronica likely forced Tess to change her sensibilities

 

[Stan5851]

This game has been turned into a wokey delight

What is a wokey delight?

 

[Sharpshooter890]

What is a wokey delight?

Unless I misunderstand the meaning, he implies that Tess has been pandering towards a group of people with a certain ideology collectively known as "woke". A stereotypical (and unfair, tbh) example would be a pink-haired fat trans-lesbian with hairy armpits and a nose-ring. In a wheelchair. You know, like the people who demand to make Lara Croft and other video-game icons ugly because it would be more representative so they can relate to them. Some people in first world countries apparently ran out of real problems to solve, so they invent new ones in order to not get bored I guess.

Personally, I don't think it's true at all. Tess intentionally made and continues to make all girls as attractive as she can, and her theme of meritocracy (on the Dom route, at least) is in direct opposition to the cult of "woke".

 

[motseer]

Unless I misunderstand the meaning, he implies that Tess has been pandering towards a group of people with a certain ideology collectively known as "woke". A stereotypical (and unfair, tbh) example would be a pink-haired fat trans-lesbian with hairy armpits and a nose-ring. In a wheelchair. You know, like the people who demand to make Lara Croft and other video-game icons ugly because it would be more representative so they can relate to them. Some people in first world countries apparently ran out of real problems to solve, so they invent new ones in order to not get bored I guess.

Personally, I don't think it's true at all. Tess intentionally made and continues to make all girls as attractive as she can, and her theme of meritocracy (on the Dom route, at least) is in direct opposition to the cult of "woke".

I don't really care whether you meant it or not. I'm just happy to hear that shit said right out loud! I never did understand how normal people got shouted down by that crowd. Jus' Sayin'

 

[HiHaHo]

I never did understand how normal people got shouted down by that crowd.

because normal people understand stick & stones,and don't start shouting at people because off their feelings,emotions or perceived moral high ground.

 

[Stan5851]

I don't really care whether you meant it or not. I'm just happy to hear that shit said right out loud! I never did understand how normal people got shouted down by that crowd. Jus' Sayin'

It's just that this aggressive minority is very vocal, while ordinary people (99%), who are guided by true beauty rather than the anti-beauty imposed by this minority, behave quite calmly.

Personally, I don't think it's true at all. Tess intentionally made and continues to make all girls as attractive as she can, and her theme of meritocracy (on the Dom route, at least) is in direct opposition to the cult of "woke".

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[DoverDad]

It's just that this aggressive minority is very vocal, while ordinary people (99%), who are guided by true beauty rather than the anti-beauty imposed by this minority, behave quite calmly.

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Maybe i worded it wrong, all I meant was that it's been watered down from what made this vn one of the best, kinda what happened to Star Wars and Doctor Who. Yes, the women are hot, cough Julet cough Celeest. That's all meant by wokie delight.

 

[Grygus]

Unless I misunderstand the meaning, he implies that Tess has been pandering towards a group of people with a certain ideology collectively known as "woke". A stereotypical (and unfair, tbh) example would be a pink-haired fat trans-lesbian with hairy armpits and a nose-ring. In a wheelchair. You know, like the people who demand to make Lara Croft and other video-game icons ugly because it would be more representative so they can relate to them. Some people in first world countries apparently ran out of real problems to solve, so they invent new ones in order to not get bored I guess.

Personally, I don't think it's true at all. Tess intentionally made and continues to make all girls as attractive as she can, and her theme of meritocracy (on the Dom route, at least) is in direct opposition to the cult of "woke".

Yeah it's all nonsense. Woke doesn't mean anything. Nobody is out there getting ugly characters in video games, yes people want more representation but that has literally always been true from the very beginning. Truth is, bigots get up in arms anytime a straight white male isn't the focus, and they invented "woke" as a dog whistle so they can complain about it without actually saying the problem out loud. Then other people believe the bullshit excuse and follow along, not understanding the real core complaint behind it. Dudes are used to gay people being completely unrepresented, and now that they get a little representation, it feels like they are the focus. But they aren't. The vast majority of movies and TV and video games do NOT star a gay protagonist. They just stand out because you're not used to seeing them. We heard the exact same shit about black people on TV in the 70s and 80s. Kirk kissing Uhura was the end of polite society, they cried. Once dudes get used to the fact that gay people exist and are just people, they'll move on. It will take a while, though.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

So like… how is Kg related to being “Woke” ? Like this seems like some far reaching off topic theory

 

[jadepaladin]

I miss the days of theory crafting and Temu Olivia renders.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Literally the only things about this game that might be considered woke is the fact that it has black characters and your ability to determine Olivia's sexuality. I don't think that way but those are the only examples that remote fit under the "woke" umbrella.

 

[Stan5851]

So like… how is Kg related to being “Woke” ? Like this seems like some far reaching off topic theory

Silver, are you the one to talk? You're a regular participant in Tess's Discord, where most of the messages from her admirers are completely off-topic and informational garbage. In this sense, our KG thread is the gold standard of the chamber of weights and measures.

 

[DoverDad]

I have no problem playing as a female, or that there are black people, or being gay in this game. Let me ask you this: what route got water down or removed because in 2025 it is seen as problematic, was it the sub route, or was it the dom route?

You can call me whatever the fuck you want, i got my opinion and you got yours, and yes, Tess can add or remove what she likes because she's the dev, but that dosn't mean that I have to be happy about it.

 

[Sharpshooter890]

I miss the days of theory crafting and Temu Olivia renders.

Yeah, let's talk how great a tag-team action of Phoebe and Jules would be. I don't even care if it's K1 or K9,

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We've got some renders already, so hopefully it's happening, and not just some teasing of that old fart in a wheelchair.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I have no problem playing as a female, or that there are black people, or being gay in this game. Let me ask you this: what route got water down or removed because in 2025 it is seen as problematic, was it the sub route, or was it the dom route?

You can call me whatever the fuck you want, i got my opinion and you got yours, and yes, Tess can add or remove what she likes because she's the dev, but that dosn't mean that I have to be happy about it.

Me neither I actually like it. If that makes me too "woke,
so be it.

Evil dom likely because she didnt like thinking of ways to kill people that didnt go over the line from Sexy to sadistic but her official reason are that some of her sick followers went too far in recommending stuff on that path and what they wanted to do to the Karlssons.

 

[Stan5851]

I would like to pose another question.

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