VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 TestB] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[f96zonetrooper]

There's no mention of a brain bomb or nano bots. Seems kind of far fetched.

KG is a Science Fiction dystopia ...
Early in the VN when mc is tested for K4-K6, there is a scene where Pat explains voice-activated implants which can inflict pain in any part of the body :

"One last thing for you worms. As part of your new initiation into this program, you no longer have need for shock collars like you did here."
"As you all know now from your recent physicals, each of you have been injected with special chips that can administer pain in many different ways."
"This is to ensure that you don't get any funny ideas about your lowly status in the grand scheme of The Karlsson Group."
"Any disobedience or poor performance in the program could lead to severe...pain, so I would suggest being good little worms."
...
"I can also tell you that K10s actually have their chips deactiviated, so there is always that possibility someday. I even know that one person went way beyond K10."
"Anyway, these chips can be activated to inflict pain by specific superiors that are authorized by voice to do so. The overall manager of your training program will determine all of these details."


There is another scene later when Juliette gifts a captured Daniel to Olivia and evil Olivia has the option to have him killed.

sis "Juliette, I think he needs the ultimate punishment. I want him killed."
dan "What?? [pname3], you can't be serious! Oh my God...please please!!!!"
play seven "music/death1.mp3" fadein 2
dan "Wait, don't!!!"
j "I'll make it very quick since it's your first time [pname3]...Daniel, Killswitch Karlsson 555."
dan "Arrgggh! uck......."

 

[harsha_26]

"I can also tell you that K10s actually have their chips deactiviated, so there is always that possibility someday. I even know that one person went way beyond K10."

I have issue with this line because Tess recently said that chips can be removed only when you reach Z level.
So, either Tess written this out of ignorance or she changed her plans like always.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

I have issue with this line because Tess recently said that chips can be removed only when you reach Z level.
So, either Tess written this out of ignorance or she changed her plans like always.

Patricia :
"I can also tell you that K10s actually have their chips deactiviated, so there is always that possibility someday. I even know that one person went way beyond K10."

This is a direct quote from the script.rpy line 5145 for Season 1 E7b. (You can use unren to get the rpy files.)
There is always the option that Patricia does not have the full picture or directly lies to mc and the other candidates.

On the other side the scene with Juliette killing Daniel by activating the killswitch is direct prove of the deadly implants.

 

[faptasticc]

i saved as the game says and then started yhe seasson 2. But when i click start, after the first page it gives me this error

 

[f96zonetrooper]

In her latest memo (a few posts above) Tess wrote that she tries to improve the hair quality of the models.

Are there any plans to improve the realism of male and female sexual organs like penis, breasts, vagina and labia of the models as well?

 

[Sick Bubblegum]

You claimed that this bomb is nothing more than a deadly disease in Kane's body, exactly the same as the one Alexander infected Astrid with and which Seth is suffering from. I replied that this bomb cannot be that disease, because, as the game itself has already proven, the disease does not kill instantly and, moreover, there are now even ways to completely cure it.

At least, Veronica and Astrid are actively working on it. I gave you evidence from the original source, which clearly states that the bomb inside Kane kills instantly. So it's definitely not the disease you're writing about.

What exactly this bomb is is another question, but it's definitely not a "Astrid`s disease". BTW, еven cancer doesn't kill instantly. So there aren't that many options left, among which, for obvious reasons, the first thing that comes to mind is a hi-tech electronic chip or some other complex technical microdevice that, when activated, can instantly kill its carrier.

Even the most primitive chips implanted in the bodies of workers, miners, and servants of the Karlssons and Deckoks can kill almost instantly. (Just remember the scene where Cynthia killed her clumsy servant by giving a command to the chip).

So I don't see anything far-fetched here. Also, It cannot be ruled out that this alleged chip (or the same nano-bot) in Kane's body could be even more deadly and technically complex, such that Veronica or Nadia would not be able to easily hack it, and its removal (or complete deactivation) could prove to be a challenging task even for V.

I agree that it would not be the disease, after seeing another post replying to me. I remember those conversations with Pat and Jul.
You never gave evidence of a bomb You gave evidence by Tess saying anyone can be killed instantly with voice activation. So, being future distopian fiction, I could accept the theory that there's some kind of self powered chip that can release enough voltage to kill by voice activation.
I'm not going to write an essay arguing this, so cool your jets.

 

[kinkyshin]

You never gave evidence of a bomb You gave evidence by Tess saying anyone can be killed instantly with voice activation. So, being future distopian fiction, I could accept the theory that there's some kind of self powered chip that can release enough voltage to kill by voice activation.

Yes, everyone knows that it might not be a literal bomb...

But then you went on to suggest that it was one of the few things that we could actually (somewhat safely) rule out lol.

 

[Sick Bubblegum]

Yes, everyone knows that it might not be a literal bomb...

But then you went on to suggest that it was one of the few things that we could actually (somewhat safely) rule out lol.

Rule out how? Wasn't it you that originally suggested a bomb? Be specific, or I'm exiting this conversation, lol.
Seems I'm baited by trolls. Pip pip, Cheerio, Cucky munch

 

[kinkyshin]

Rule out how? Wasn't it you that originally suggested a bomb? Be specific, or I'm exiting this conversation, lol.
Seems I'm baited by trolls. Pip pip, Cheerio, Cucky munch

 

[Sick Bubblegum]

Go enjoy your trip to cuck U

 

[Sick Bubblegum]

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[Stan5851]

I have issue with this line because Tess recently said that chips can be removed only when you reach Z level.

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[Sick Bubblegum]

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Cynthias slave had a collar. Maybe the Decocks(sp) weren't quite as advanced as Veronica. We do know that the Decocks definitely had Bluetooth, from the message that Nadia put on his collar via her phone.
An implant that requires voice activation, possibly Bluetooth, a shocking mechanism, and or a detonation in a vital area, (like the heart or the brain) just large enough to render a slave unalive, by today's standards would be massive. Sorry but I'm not getting on the bomb bus. Pick your poison: reality or fiction. Nano bots may be possible in a futurist scenario, Star Trek had nano bots, maybe Karlsson's again but does too.

 

[Stan5851]

Cynthias slave had a collar. Maybe the Decocks(sp) weren't quite as advanced as Veronica. We do know that the Decocks definitely had Bluetooth, from the message that Nadia put on his collar via her phone.
An implant that requires voice activation, possibly Bluetooth, a shocking mechanism, and or a detonation in a vital area, (like the heart or the brain) just large enough to render a slave unalive, by today's standards would be massive. Sorry but I'm not getting on the bomb bus. Pick your poison: reality or fiction. Nano bots may be possible in a futurist scenario, Star Trek had nano bots, maybe Karlsson's again but does too.

We have gaming reality—chips capable of killing people. So all your possible complaints about what is possible (or impossible) in a futurist scenario, in which scientists calmly synthesize deadly genetic diseases, work on anti-gravity engines, have power over the genome, and thus have the ability to change the size of human organs (such as the penis or tongue) in a couple of game days (lol) or even completely genetically redesign the body, please express to Tess, not to me.

Be that as it may, I will remain in this position, where there is something electronic and deadly dangerous in Kane, if only because such devices exist in this game world, while deadly genetic diseases that kill instantly — do not.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

... where there is something electronic and deadly dangerous in Kane, if only because such devices exist in this game world, while deadly genetic diseases that kill instantly — do not.

We know from Patricia during the last part of the prison test in Episode 2 that all participants "have been injected with special chips that can administer pain in many different ways." ... " these chips can be activated to inflict pain by specific superiors that are authorized by voice to do so"

It's definetely a challenge to equip these special chips with sensors to hear voice-commands and additional means to recognize authorized voices as well as recognize the spoken name of the person whose body they are in and especially to know which part of the body they are in (since pain can be limited to certain body parts) ... maybe the technology is similar to current chip implants which can control insuline level or heart frequency?

It is Science Fiction (magic) ...

 

[harsha_26]

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Its a very thorough analysis. Something to think for me lol.

Anyway, I'm still wondering what he meant by "K10 can get their chips remove" comment.

 

[Maviarab]

Anyway, I'm still wondering what he meant by "K10 can get their chips remove" comment.

It's a Patricia quote from when still in prison. However, Patricia really knows very little when it actually comes down to it. So it's a throwaway comment, meant to incentivize them with no real weight behind it.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

It's a Patricia quote from when still in prison. However, Patricia really knows very little when it actually comes down to it. So it's a throwaway comment, meant to incentivize them with no real weight behind it.

It's a quote from the early game, written about 5 (!) years ago ... there is always the chance that Tess forgot, mixed up things or simply changed the rules ... at that point the mc was tested for k4 - k6, so k10 sounded nice. KG is fiction, so Tess can change things as she likes ...

There is another more unspecific quote from Raven later in the game :

rav "Don't fall in that trap [pname]. Have you forgotten your shock chips? They don't just shock you know...your location is always tracked very precisely."
rav "So don't relax too much. Keep working hard and striving. If you do finish the program and graduate to a very high rank...those chips will go away."
rav "And before you ask, yes, the company really will remove the chips. I saw it personally with Katsumi."
rav "She even took us all out for a massive party at her expense with her newfound power and wealth...hint hint hint [pname]!"

And one from Dominique :
d "All workers are also shock chipped -- not the same as yours -- but with a similar design."
d "Your chips can be removed safely, but theirs are permanent. Keep this in mind as working this position means you are stuck...forever. Until you pass away."

 

[Sick Bubblegum]

We have gaming reality—chips capable of killing people. So all your possible complaints about what is possible (or impossible) in a futurist scenario, in which scientists calmly synthesize deadly genetic diseases, work on anti-gravity engines, have power over the genome, and thus have the ability to change the size of human organs (such as the penis or tongue) in a couple of game days (lol) or even completely genetically redesign the body, please express to Tess, not to me.

Be that as it may, I will remain in this position, where there is something electronic and deadly dangerous in Kane, if only because such devices exist in this game world, while deadly genetic diseases that kill instantly — do not.

What makes you think I'm complaining? I'm only stating postulation. And where in my last post did I even mention deadly diseases killing instantly?

 

[Stan5851]

It's a quote from the early game, written about 5 (!) years ago ... there is always the chance that Tess forgot, mixed up things or simply changed the rules ... at that point the mc was tested for k4 - k6, so k10 sounded nice. KG is fiction, so Tess can change things as she likes ...

There is another more unspecific quote from Raven later in the game :

rav "Don't fall in that trap [pname]. Have you forgotten your shock chips? They don't just shock you know...your location is always tracked very precisely."
rav "So don't relax too much. Keep working hard and striving. If you do finish the program and graduate to a very high rank...those chips will go away."
rav "And before you ask, yes, the company really will remove the chips. I saw it personally with Katsumi."
rav "She even took us all out for a massive party at her expense with her newfound power and wealth...hint hint hint [pname]!"

And one from Dominique :
d "All workers are also shock chipped -- not the same as yours -- but with a similar design."
d "Your chips can be removed safely, but theirs are permanent. Keep this in mind as working this position means you are stuck...forever. Until you pass away."

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What makes you think I'm complaining? I'm only stating postulation. And where in my last post did I even mention deadly diseases killing instantly?

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