VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 TestB] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[harsha_26]

Slave points are a measure how good Kane aligns with the guards.
Patricia likes to bully her victims and does not want them encouraged, so encouraging Zach earns a slave point.

On the other side there are 2 options to reduce slave points if you made a deal with Pat :
- "I better not say anything at all. Especially talking about Patricia meeting me, I am quite sure that would alter how she treats me today" -> $ slavepoints -= 1
- "I have no questions, Mistress Patricia." -> if patdealyes: $ slavepoints -= 1

So you can get 2 slavepoints from other sources and still come out as K6.

So, If you want to be a good savior boy and help prisoners for food and play as honest (not taking pat deal).. Yeah, you will end up with K4. I dont have problem with this, Because I'm the fan of Evil Dom path. So, my choices for my canon path are totally selfish and badass. But, I dont clearly understand these prison choices of a Selfish Kane taking good dom choices out of prison.

I mean, yes, he may think that.. "Well, I'm a good boy. But first, I will do anything I can to get out of this shithole prison and be a good boy out of prison". But, this is all headcanon for players. Kane doesn't given any coherency in game script.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Juliette is also into scientific research as proven by dumbo. Her and ronnie should be besties

 

[f96zonetrooper]

So if Kane doesn't run fast enough during the testing, his relationship with the guards gets worse?

I think the guards like winners, not loosers ...

The tests are not fair.
Imho : The tests are supposed to separate wolfs from sheep and check if the new wolfs fit into the wolfpack with its hierarchy ...

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[f96zonetrooper]

So, If you want to be a good savior boy and help prisoners for food and play as honest (not taking pat deal).. Yeah, you will end up with K4. I dont have problem with this, Because I'm the fan of Evil Dom path. So, my choices for my canon path are totally selfish and badass. But, I dont clearly understand these prison choices of a Selfish Kane taking good dom choices out of prison.

I mean, yes, he may think that.. "Well, I'm a good boy. But first, I will do anything I can to get out of this shithole prison and be a good boy out of prison". But, this is all headcanon for players. Kane doesn't given any coherency in game script.

What about K5? ( = 1 or 2 slavepoints)
If you don't take the food you get at least +2 slavepoints from the running contest.
If you are good friend with Jake, he will help you win one of the other contests.
I think you should be able to avoid getting further slavepoints by choosing the correct answers but I did not try it.
I usually play the Elena option, have Kane make a deal with Pat and fuck her during test.

 

[harsha_26]

What about K5? ( = 1 or 2 slavepoints)
If you don't take the food you get at least +2 slavepoints from the running contest.
If you are good friend with Jake, he will help you win one of the other contests.
I think you should be able to avoid getting further slavepoints by choosing the correct answers but I did not try it.
I usually play the Elena option, have Kane make a deal with Pat and fuck her during test.

See what you wrote and tell me whether it is easy or difficult for a new player who is not-submissive (but also not dominant) to mess up and end with K4?

It is possible to end with K5 even with 1 or 2 slave points, I'm not telling it is not possible.

But, for a new player, no knowledge of walkthrough and just playing blindly but not into submissive things, who just want to do good and sacrifice, there are more chances this game punishes you.

So, yeah, basically, it is more safe to play as true dom in prison and you can do "good" things later outside of prison. (Although good dom doesn't make any sense to me unless I headcanon).

 

[Maviarab]

it is more safe to play as true dom in prison and you can do "good" things later outside of prison.

Of course it is. Remember the golden rule...you have no friends in prison...always...look out for number one.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

ok with the gift of hindsight what do yall do differnt that yall didnt do the first time.

1. Not as nice to Jake since those points are useless to me and cost me valuable points in other things
2. Dont do olivia's bday party. I figured I would be going to her party so I was willing to risk that important sis bro point to see the spectacle I set up but since I know i dont go to said party, nty.
3. I always select dominique when asked to choose a sisters department. Love the ability to flex her morality
4. Fuck seth. That little fuckers never being saved again
5. No longer try to have an evil game submit a good olivia. Also with Olivia I dont choose the most evil option most of the time.

Will someone into the points thing tell me is there any difference if Olivia scares Juliette?

 

[Maviarab]

Will someone into the points thing tell me is there any difference if Olivia scares Juliette?

Nothing worth worrying about or noteworthy.

 

[minibaer12]

ok with the gift of hindsight what do yall do differnt that yall didnt do the first time.

1. Not as nice to Jake since those points are useless to me and cost me valuable points in other things
2. Dont do olivia's bday party. I figured I would be going to her party so I was willing to risk that important sis bro point to see the spectacle I set up but since I know i dont go to said party, nty.
3. I always select dominique when asked to choose a sisters department. Love the ability to flex her morality
4. Fuck seth. That little fuckers never being saved again
5. No longer try to have an evil game submit a good olivia. Also with Olivia I dont choose the most evil option most of the time.

Will someone into the points thing tell me is there any difference if Olivia scares Juliette?

Spoiler: i'll give it a try

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[hoochimama]

Cole is such a good guy, he stole his best friend's girl, it's that not an asshole move, I don't know what is

Doesn't that flashback sequence of a bruised and battered Callista in a hospital bed apparently being told by a doctor that she lost the child she was carrying (Luke) imply Alex K beat the shit out of her to begin with thus killing their unborn son?

 

[Maviarab]

imply

Not really no. No explanation is given at all...as to the why, where or how. Only implication at all, is that it was Alexanders 'first son'. and why he subsequently went off the rails...but that is theory alone.

 

[HiHaHo]

Doesn't that flashback sequence of a bruised or battered Callista in a hospital bed apparently being told by a doctor that she lost the child she was pregnant with (Luke?) imply Alex K beat the shit out of her to begin thus killing their unborn son?

our had someone else do it for him....

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Doesn't that flashback sequence of a bruised or battered Callista in a hospital bed apparently being told by a doctor that she lost the child she was pregnant with (Luke?) imply Alex K beat the shit out of her to begin thus killing their unborn son?

I was ready to shit all over this theory until I played it, but it kind of does. The way the nurse says she doesn't believe it was an accident tells us that whoever brought her to the hospital said it was an accident and the nurse is asking her in private which implies that she doesnt trust whoever that person was. Also, her being naked is peculiar. Almost as if she had been brought to the hospital in that state

 

[harsha_26]

Of course it is. Remember the golden rule...you have no friends in prison...always...look out for number one.

And you have friends out of prison? You mean those karlsson's sisters? Soft Romancing them while playing as a Good Dom? Good for you. I don't have that much good heart coming out of prison to participate in training designed and executed by karlsson family. I want their destruction but can't able to do anything against veronica, the so called immortal goddess made by Tess.

 

[Stan5851]

And you have friends out of prison? You mean those karlsson's sisters? Soft Romancing them while playing as a Good Dom? Good for you. I don't have that much good heart coming out of prison to participate in training designed and executed by karlsson family. I want their destruction but can't able to do anything against veronica, the so called immortal goddess made by Tess.

Can you tell me exactly how Veronica harmed your EvilDom that you want to destroy her so badly? Or did Miles just bite you?

 

[kinkyshin]

Can you tell me exactly how Veronica harmed your EvilDom that you want to destroy her so badly? Or did Miles just bite you?

It's contagious!?

 

[Hazardgaming]

Can you tell me exactly how Veronica harmed your EvilDom that you want to destroy her so badly? Or did Miles just bite you?

She’s an active and willing participant in Alexander’s gambit plan. My guess is that you’re thinking that harm must be in reference to physical harm.

 

[kinkyshin]

She’s an active and willing participant in Alexander’s gambit plan. My guess is that you’re thinking that harm must be in reference to physical harm.

She doesn't seem to care much for Alexander's Gambit plan at all. It's Callista that's practically begging for this as it benefits Kane and Olivia.

Also, she's busy saving humanity.

 

[Stan5851]

She’s an active and willing participant in Alexander’s gambit plan. My guess is that you’re thinking that harm must be in reference to physical harm.

So what?) Yes, Alexander entrusted Veronica with overseeing the entire Gambit process, but she herself does not claim any authority, and all the sisters and other participants are well aware of this. So the question still hangs in the air: what did she personally do that was so bad that a player who play EvilDom (!) suddenly wanted to destroy her?

I would understand if he (role) played a "White Knight in shining armor Super-Duper GoodDom" who does not accept any evil (even when it comes to "gray morality")... But here we are dealing with a person playing an EvilDom who wants to destroy her for what? For not being evil enough? Or for being too kind? Questions, questions...

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

theres legit only one person who controls those collars making people slaves and here's a hint: it aint juliette.