VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 TestB] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[harsha_26]

Ok but why is the gambit even needed after Alexanders death? Veronica blackmailed her father by threatening to bring down the system by herself. If she actually wanted change, could she just not push her sisters out of power if she is able to deactivate the shock chips and therefore end the rule of the Karlssons in an instant? I know she always says she doesn't want the power to herself, but following this overcomplicated plan with like a thousand variables seems very strange for a scientific/no bullshit mind like Veronicas. It seems more like she simply doesn't really care about anything other than the island. Well maybe this changes after Kane saves Maria.

Edit: Ahh actually punishing for choosing any other faction than the island could actually be interesting. It is the most "good" faction after all. And most of the time the game actually rewards the player for being as evil as possible. So this could actually be a nice twist. Yes you get instant reward by being an asshole, but you loose everything in the end against you will have to work harder for something good to happen, but it is worth it in the end.

Oh yeah, she definitely changes a bit into optimistic if kane saves maria, and slowly showing improvements in her character, especially in this update. But, that optimism is still in the starting stage (obviously you can't become all good in a single day). Let's see how it goes in future.

Regarding your other question, "why the gambit is still continuing even after alexander death?".. You have to look up a theory called "KaneBomb", is available in thread. It is too much for my layman brain. But, if you understand it, good for you.

 

[harsha_26]

Spoiler: Alexander Vision

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Good or Evil, Live like Alexander, so that you lives on even after your Death.
And Whether we like it or not, it's not Kane, But it's Veronica is going to be the true heir of karlsson's legacy, who lives on even after her death in a museum (anais game) dedicated to her. Bullshit.

 

[Rowszix]

Oh yeah, she definitely changes a bit into optimistic if kane saves maria, and slowly showing improvements in her character, especially in this update. But, that optimism is still in the starting stage (obviously you can't become all good in a single day). Let's see how it goes in future.

Regarding your other question, "why the gambit is still continuing even after alexander death?".. You have to look up a theory called "KaneBomb", is available in thread. It is too much for my layman brain. But, if you understand it, good for you.

Mhh we learn that Olivia was a good person before, and we can play her immediately as evil as Juliette, so at least you can become evil in one day . But yeah I get it.

I tried to read a little bit about the bomb theory. So the idea is Kane has a bomb in him and somebody (but it is unknown who) has the remote to instantly kill him if Callista interferes? Yeah Ok, but that would only explain why Callista lets the gambit happen, not why Veronica let it happen. I can't really find the first comment that mentions this theory, if anybody knows how find it I would really appreciate it .

 

[harsha_26]

Mhh we learn that Olivia was a good person before, and we can play her immediately as evil as Juliette, so at least you can become evil in one day . But yeah I get it.

I tried to read a little bit about the bomb theory. So the idea is Kane has a bomb in him and somebody (but it is unknown who) has the remote to instantly kill him if Callista interferes? Yeah Ok, but that would only explain why Callista lets the gambit happen, not why Veronica let it happen. I can't really find the first comment that mentions this theory, if anybody knows how find it I would really appreciate it .

My assumption is Veronica wants gambit process to go on till the island4 is finally ready to avoid any disruptions in her plans. If kane, olivia, alessandra seems worthy to her, they get the ticket to space station, otherwise she won't care about gambit or karlsson's city. That's why she is not interested in games too. Nadia already got the ticket on the deal that she should be silent on her brother's truth.

 

[Rowszix]

Ok found the thread and screenshot from Tess saying that Kane can be instantly killed and Callista has to hide from the person that can immediately kill him. Ok ... That explains a lot but brings also more questions, but if this secret person knows about the bomb and the gambit and everything, they can't know that Callista is alive, even though she is the gambit queen? Mhh feels strange.

 

[harsha_26]

Ok found the thread and screenshot from Tess saying that Kane can be instantly killed and Callista has to hide from the person that can immediately kill him. Ok ... That explains a lot but brings also more questions, but if this secret person knows about the bomb and the gambit and everything, they can't know that Callista is alive, even though she is the gambit queen? Mhh feels strange.

Callista is a gambit queen but i don't think all knows this truth. Others may be thinking that gambit queen is someone else. May be it's callista's and Veronica's plan to install someone (callista herself) as a gambit queen and do the drama by saying it's part of the gambit plan but in reality that's not Alexander's plan. So, the secret one still does not know that callista is still alive.


My bet is on olivia. For two minutes, think it is olivia and Start the game again and carefully listen to Alexander's conversation in opening scene.

 

[Rowszix]

Callista is a gambit queen but i don't think all knows this truth. Others may be thinking that gambit queen is someone else. May be it's callista's and Veronica's plan to install someone (callista herself) as a gambit queen and do the drama by saying it's part of the gambit plan but in reality that's not Alexander's plan. So, the secret one still does not know that callista is still alive.


My bet is on olivia. For two minutes, think it is olivia and Start the game again and carefully listen to Alexander's conversation in opening scene.

Shit, I think you are right. The music, the acting that she maybe wants to change herself. Everything fits. Then the scene were Callista says her goodbys is when she joined Alexander ...

Haha, that would basically explain every issue I have with her character, but at the same time makes her basically the worst of all the Karlssons, regardless of her morals. She acutally could have warned Kane about everything.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Ok found the thread and screenshot from Tess saying that Kane can be instantly killed and Callista has to hide from the person that can immediately kill him. Ok ... That explains a lot but brings also more questions, but if this secret person knows about the bomb and the gambit and everything, they can't know that Callista is alive, even though she is the gambit queen? Mhh feels strange.

Other than the dekocks , veronica, cole. kiyomi and Olivia, nobody (including her son) knows callista is alive. They just know of the existence of a gambit queen. Since said queen wears a mask and likly rocks a voice changer, its easy to see how she can get away with staying hidden

 

[Rowszix]

OK, then who do you guys assume Seth parents are? Since nobody of that family seems to be who they are and since Elena tells Olivia he is not her biological brother, but says nothing about Kane it seems sketchy

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

OK, then who do you guys assume Seth parents are? Since nobody of that family seems to be who they are and since Elena tells Olivia he is not her biological brother, but says nothing about Kane it seems sketchy

this is still a theory im woking on so I don't have all the deets but based on the fact that he has a disease that was manufactured by the karlssons and the fact that he wound up with Callista, Im guessing one of Alexander's sisters.