VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Stan5851]

It will never be the good dom path. Tess has always said any femdom game needs some semblence of balance, something you couldn't have here without that path, which is far more popular than you might think btw. (it also comprises about 25% of the VN content. Never gonna be dropped).

It's also, for many of us, what we think will end up as World State A helping a moral Dominique. My guess would actually be one of the planned secret sub romances (though Tess writes in the past tense, not future...maybe she is already way ahead on the script) or the Alessa route which would be a shame, as she does not have a full T1 romance arc (the only Karlsson sister that doesn't).

Yeah, I'm also leaning towards thinking that by this particular route, Tess meant the secret sub. Plus, it coincides with Tess writing about it and

"While I love writing it, a part of me wonders if I'm better off abandoning this specific path"

..and as we know, Tess partially embodied her own sexual preferences in this special route of Alessa..Personally, I think the likely problem is that (this is just my guess) there was some small group of subscribers who may have expressed too much displeasure that the secret sub route is not comparable in scale to the main Dom and Sub routes, and perhaps these "drama kings" are what drove Tess to this decision - to abandon this route completely, but save her nerves..Well, we'll have to wait for Tess' post on patreon, and it would be nice to know what the poll there will be. Hopefully DoverUK25 will help us with that.

 

[JJasper]

To clear up the speculation, the path that might be getting cut is the (extreme) evil Dom Kane path.

Unsure about reposting the whole thing from Patreon, so will leave that to someone else (or even Tess, if she's interested in getting views here too!)

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Goddamn perverts are ruining everything. That's usually my go-to path

 

[ddaisy]

What ifff it's actualy some kind of a sub path? Maybe something related to the little brother? I think I remember reading discussion threads of like 2 or 3 other games with sub non-con content where the devs quit or reworked their games because they said they didn't want to deal with mental people harassing them with pms and suicide threats.

 

[depeche mode]

To clear up the speculation, the path that might be getting cut is the (extreme) evil Dom Kane path.

Unsure about reposting the whole thing from Patreon, so will leave that to someone else (or even Tess, if she's interested in getting views here too!)

you have to be fucking shitting me

 

[Zenith_11]

I hope the Dom/evil path isn't removed. I find it to be really enjoyable. Although I might be in minority because I think more people prefer the sub path.

What about romancing the characters like Juliette, Olivia, Dominique, & Delilah on the evil route?

 

[Silver_Crow117]

To clear up the speculation, the path that might be getting cut is the (extreme) evil Dom Kane path.

Unsure about reposting the whole thing from Patreon, so will leave that to someone else (or even Tess, if she's interested in getting views here too!)

It is the Really evil Dom path that’s she’s talking about… she said in her Discord (if I remember correctly)

 

[depeche mode]

fucking lmao, may well just end the fucking game then like she threatened last week

 

[Surmikas]

To clear up the speculation, the path that might be getting cut is the (extreme) evil Dom Kane path.

Unsure about reposting the whole thing from Patreon, so will leave that to someone else (or even Tess, if she's interested in getting views here too!)

What's going to happen with Juliette if we can't be completely evil?

 

[JJasper]

It is also my favourite but, as a lot of people are pointing out on Patreon, Tess' mental state writing this game will have far more of an impact on the game than the exclusion of one path!

Would be sad to see the path go, but would be far more sad to see this game abandoned or the quality markedly drop off.

(But am very much hoping that Tess feels up to continuing it)

 

[depeche mode]

hope the game gets dropped

 

[drdiver3]

So.. basically there's a path in the game that she likes, but the patreon supporters that also like that path are annoying her? And she's thinking of abandoning that route because of them? lmao what path is it

Demon and Demoness flagged path.

Disappointing, as I like this path, but also not surprising that this path would attract bad actors.

 

[drdiver3]

I hope the Dom/evil path isn't removed. I find it to be really enjoyable. Although I might be in minority because I think more people prefer the sub path.

What about romancing the characters like Juliette, Olivia, Dominique, & Delilah on the evil route?

Goddamn perverts are ruining everything. That's usually my go-to path

If you care about this path and don't already support her, it may be worth supporting her to contribute to her poll and provide your opinion.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Im honestly surprised its the dom players cuz sending penis pics and guilt-tripping people seems to be a sub thing to do

 

[DoverDad]

This is the full patron post from Tess

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Hi everyone!
I greatly appreciate the feedback I have been getting on the Test Version, and I am outlining some changes and a workflow plan for this week to finish up the Final Version of the game. I never want to give a hard deadline because I never know when something may go wrong, but I hope to have the Final Version out by roughly Friday this week.
I will be adding a few scenes, a few Easter Egg scenes, an outro, if I can find all the masks an intro mask shot, and selecting/adding all animations that I think make everything work better. (I usually reject about half of the animations that are created and keep the other half and include in game.)
So I hope to have this update out soon, and will stagger the release first to $8 tier up and give a bit of feedback time for this group but I will work to quickly get it out to $5 tier too if nothing is wrong.
Please make sure to carefully go over the save screens tutorial I put up in a prior post here on Patreon or on Discord in the save tutorial channel. It is important you save under the proper slot to ensure saves carry over properly. Most testers have got saves over ok, but a few had issues so I helped walked them through getting their saves compatible. The best indicator is that you have to type in a save name with a numbered slot 1-8 on the mask screens, not typing in a saved game name on the "normal" save screen where you see boxes/pictures on the screen.
Ok, this last item of business is a tough one for me to talk about but I always want to be transparent and discuss everything relevant in my mind. I primarily do this game for enjoyment and creative exercise, as it helps me in a lot of ways outside of KG. I have always been ok making less money if my enjoyment is not hindered too much. (I understand nothing is always perfect and happy, so I'm talking more normal stuff.)

I'm not going to go over ad naseum some issues I have faced, but the bottom line overall is that I have had issues ranging from the worst levels of harassment to lighter stuff that has impacted me otherwise. In short, bad actors. But the reality is that almost all of these bad actors are primarily fans of a very specific path of Karlsson's Gambit.
That path is generally classified for me as "dom/evil" on the extreme end. For those of you that can dig in the code, it's Kane with the "demon" flag and Olivia with the "demoness" flag combined together. I am NOT talking about a very strong and assertive Kane that takes power and can gain harem/romantic interests, but being very specific to the extreme evil path. For those that have played Episode 8, not to spoil it for those that haven't, this flag applies to one scene with Dom Kane, Juliette, and Mercy. I think those that have played can understand which scene I mean.
What does it mean if I seriously do consider taking it out? What it practically would mean is that I would abandon the demon flag and make deeper paths on the good dom, secret sub, and flesh out more of the normal dominant Kane path where he can be assertive and form relationships/harem females over time. A bit more "normal" versus extreme evil possibilities. This is not a change I love from my own personal writing standpoint, as I like writing about the extremes, but I am also getting weary (weary is the perfect word) from constant bad actors pushing on stuff related to this specific path. While I have had minor issues from 1-2 slaves on the extreme sub side because they get a bit needy, it is NOTHING close to what I have experienced on the other extreme. It just is not close, people would absolutely feel I should sue people for what I am seeing sometimes.
My primary goal in all of this is to keep the game going and retain my enjoyment as that's what drives me to keep writing...but I am putting up a poll here. Other than I think way back the poll that created Veronica Karlsson, this might be the most critical poll in possibly shaping what kind of decision I make moving forward. So please help me out by indicating how you play the game, and which paths you like, etc. I am not necessarily making any decisions based just on a poll, but I really do want to get a temperature check on my current Patrons and get a sense of how many "good" actors (not the bad actors but just regular people) that enjoy this specific path and might be unhappy about losing it.
So you can vote for more than one poll answer if it's relevant too (like you enjoy the sub and dom paths both for example) Just give me an indication...thanks! I know the choices might not be perfect with mindset, but I am just trying to guess as best as I can...
Please note none of this remotely impacts the sub path, or the very evil paths on that side, as I frankly have had no issues (read: bad actors) on that at all.
And as I said, I hope to have the next version out by I hope this Friday! Thanks!



I play the dom path, and love the extreme evil dom path and would be greatly upset losing it.
13


I play the dom path, and like the extreme evil path, absolutely would miss it.
37


I play the dom path and don't care too much about the extreme evil path. I won't miss it too much.
31


I play the dom path and prefer the good path.
26


I play the dom path and prefer a more normal/dominant harem/romance gaining power Kane without extreme evil.
51


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub path, but love the extreme evil path.
1


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, but like the extreme evil path.
6


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, don't care about extreme evil path.
13


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, prefer good path.
12


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, prefer normal assertive/dominant Kane gaining power/females path.
17


I play mostly/all sub path, but love the extreme evil dom path.
6


I play mostly/all sub path, but like the extreme evil dom path.
8


I play mostly/all sub path, but don't care about the extreme evil path.
18


I play mostly/all sub path, but prefer good dom path.
3


I play mostly/all sub path, but prefer normal Kane assertive/dominant harem/romance path.
6


I play mostly all/sub path, completely ignore the dom path except secret sub
23


I play mostly all/sub path, completely ignore dom path entirely.
14


Side ask from here o n down for research: I like the sub path, prefer more extreme content
36


I like the sub path, prefer a mix of extreme and gentle
38


I like the sub path, prefer a more gentle path generally

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

yep looks like we're losing the evil path, must adjust my gameplay accordingly

 

[motseer]

This is the full patron post from Tess

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Hi everyone!
I greatly appreciate the feedback I have been getting on the Test Version, and I am outlining some changes and a workflow plan for this week to finish up the Final Version of the game. I never want to give a hard deadline because I never know when something may go wrong, but I hope to have the Final Version out by roughly Friday this week.
I will be adding a few scenes, a few Easter Egg scenes, an outro, if I can find all the masks an intro mask shot, and selecting/adding all animations that I think make everything work better. (I usually reject about half of the animations that are created and keep the other half and include in game.)
So I hope to have this update out soon, and will stagger the release first to $8 tier up and give a bit of feedback time for this group but I will work to quickly get it out to $5 tier too if nothing is wrong.
Please make sure to carefully go over the save screens tutorial I put up in a prior post here on Patreon or on Discord in the save tutorial channel. It is important you save under the proper slot to ensure saves carry over properly. Most testers have got saves over ok, but a few had issues so I helped walked them through getting their saves compatible. The best indicator is that you have to type in a save name with a numbered slot 1-8 on the mask screens, not typing in a saved game name on the "normal" save screen where you see boxes/pictures on the screen.
Ok, this last item of business is a tough one for me to talk about but I always want to be transparent and discuss everything relevant in my mind. I primarily do this game for enjoyment and creative exercise, as it helps me in a lot of ways outside of KG. I have always been ok making less money if my enjoyment is not hindered too much. (I understand nothing is always perfect and happy, so I'm talking more normal stuff.)

I'm not going to go over ad naseum some issues I have faced, but the bottom line overall is that I have had issues ranging from the worst levels of harassment to lighter stuff that has impacted me otherwise. In short, bad actors. But the reality is that almost all of these bad actors are primarily fans of a very specific path of Karlsson's Gambit.
That path is generally classified for me as "dom/evil" on the extreme end. For those of you that can dig in the code, it's Kane with the "demon" flag and Olivia with the "demoness" flag combined together. I am NOT talking about a very strong and assertive Kane that takes power and can gain harem/romantic interests, but being very specific to the extreme evil path. For those that have played Episode 8, not to spoil it for those that haven't, this flag applies to one scene with Dom Kane, Juliette, and Mercy. I think those that have played can understand which scene I mean.
What does it mean if I seriously do consider taking it out? What it practically would mean is that I would abandon the demon flag and make deeper paths on the good dom, secret sub, and flesh out more of the normal dominant Kane path where he can be assertive and form relationships/harem females over time. A bit more "normal" versus extreme evil possibilities. This is not a change I love from my own personal writing standpoint, as I like writing about the extremes, but I am also getting weary (weary is the perfect word) from constant bad actors pushing on stuff related to this specific path. While I have had minor issues from 1-2 slaves on the extreme sub side because they get a bit needy, it is NOTHING close to what I have experienced on the other extreme. It just is not close, people would absolutely feel I should sue people for what I am seeing sometimes.
My primary goal in all of this is to keep the game going and retain my enjoyment as that's what drives me to keep writing...but I am putting up a poll here. Other than I think way back the poll that created Veronica Karlsson, this might be the most critical poll in possibly shaping what kind of decision I make moving forward. So please help me out by indicating how you play the game, and which paths you like, etc. I am not necessarily making any decisions based just on a poll, but I really do want to get a temperature check on my current Patrons and get a sense of how many "good" actors (not the bad actors but just regular people) that enjoy this specific path and might be unhappy about losing it.
So you can vote for more than one poll answer if it's relevant too (like you enjoy the sub and dom paths both for example) Just give me an indication...thanks! I know the choices might not be perfect with mindset, but I am just trying to guess as best as I can...
Please note none of this remotely impacts the sub path, or the very evil paths on that side, as I frankly have had no issues (read: bad actors) on that at all.
And as I said, I hope to have the next version out by I hope this Friday! Thanks!



I play the dom path, and love the extreme evil dom path and would be greatly upset losing it.
13


I play the dom path, and like the extreme evil path, absolutely would miss it.
37


I play the dom path and don't care too much about the extreme evil path. I won't miss it too much.
31


I play the dom path and prefer the good path.
26


I play the dom path and prefer a more normal/dominant harem/romance gaining power Kane without extreme evil.
51


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub path, but love the extreme evil path.
1


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, but like the extreme evil path.
6


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, don't care about extreme evil path.
13


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, prefer good path.
12


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, prefer normal assertive/dominant Kane gaining power/females path.
17


I play mostly/all sub path, but love the extreme evil dom path.
6


I play mostly/all sub path, but like the extreme evil dom path.
8


I play mostly/all sub path, but don't care about the extreme evil path.
18


I play mostly/all sub path, but prefer good dom path.
3


I play mostly/all sub path, but prefer normal Kane assertive/dominant harem/romance path.
6


I play mostly all/sub path, completely ignore the dom path except secret sub
23


I play mostly all/sub path, completely ignore dom path entirely.
14


Side ask from here o n down for research: I like the sub path, prefer more extreme content
36


I like the sub path, prefer a mix of extreme and gentle
38


I like the sub path, prefer a more gentle path generally

31, 26, 51 Though sometimes I think I'd like to be really evil and you know... ring you know who's neck. Maybe just keep that part?

 

[Zenith_11]

yep looks like we're losing the evil path, must adjust my gameplay accordingly

It's confirmed? Wow I guess there's no going around it. I really enjoyed the extreme content from the evil dom path. It's really disappointing but it is what it is

Those "bad" actors ruined one of my favorite vns

 

[YuNobi1]

This is the full patron post from Tess

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Hi everyone!
I greatly appreciate the feedback I have been getting on the Test Version, and I am outlining some changes and a workflow plan for this week to finish up the Final Version of the game. I never want to give a hard deadline because I never know when something may go wrong, but I hope to have the Final Version out by roughly Friday this week.
I will be adding a few scenes, a few Easter Egg scenes, an outro, if I can find all the masks an intro mask shot, and selecting/adding all animations that I think make everything work better. (I usually reject about half of the animations that are created and keep the other half and include in game.)
So I hope to have this update out soon, and will stagger the release first to $8 tier up and give a bit of feedback time for this group but I will work to quickly get it out to $5 tier too if nothing is wrong.
Please make sure to carefully go over the save screens tutorial I put up in a prior post here on Patreon or on Discord in the save tutorial channel. It is important you save under the proper slot to ensure saves carry over properly. Most testers have got saves over ok, but a few had issues so I helped walked them through getting their saves compatible. The best indicator is that you have to type in a save name with a numbered slot 1-8 on the mask screens, not typing in a saved game name on the "normal" save screen where you see boxes/pictures on the screen.
Ok, this last item of business is a tough one for me to talk about but I always want to be transparent and discuss everything relevant in my mind. I primarily do this game for enjoyment and creative exercise, as it helps me in a lot of ways outside of KG. I have always been ok making less money if my enjoyment is not hindered too much. (I understand nothing is always perfect and happy, so I'm talking more normal stuff.)

I'm not going to go over ad naseum some issues I have faced, but the bottom line overall is that I have had issues ranging from the worst levels of harassment to lighter stuff that has impacted me otherwise. In short, bad actors. But the reality is that almost all of these bad actors are primarily fans of a very specific path of Karlsson's Gambit.
That path is generally classified for me as "dom/evil" on the extreme end. For those of you that can dig in the code, it's Kane with the "demon" flag and Olivia with the "demoness" flag combined together. I am NOT talking about a very strong and assertive Kane that takes power and can gain harem/romantic interests, but being very specific to the extreme evil path. For those that have played Episode 8, not to spoil it for those that haven't, this flag applies to one scene with Dom Kane, Juliette, and Mercy. I think those that have played can understand which scene I mean.
What does it mean if I seriously do consider taking it out? What it practically would mean is that I would abandon the demon flag and make deeper paths on the good dom, secret sub, and flesh out more of the normal dominant Kane path where he can be assertive and form relationships/harem females over time. A bit more "normal" versus extreme evil possibilities. This is not a change I love from my own personal writing standpoint, as I like writing about the extremes, but I am also getting weary (weary is the perfect word) from constant bad actors pushing on stuff related to this specific path. While I have had minor issues from 1-2 slaves on the extreme sub side because they get a bit needy, it is NOTHING close to what I have experienced on the other extreme. It just is not close, people would absolutely feel I should sue people for what I am seeing sometimes.
My primary goal in all of this is to keep the game going and retain my enjoyment as that's what drives me to keep writing...but I am putting up a poll here. Other than I think way back the poll that created Veronica Karlsson, this might be the most critical poll in possibly shaping what kind of decision I make moving forward. So please help me out by indicating how you play the game, and which paths you like, etc. I am not necessarily making any decisions based just on a poll, but I really do want to get a temperature check on my current Patrons and get a sense of how many "good" actors (not the bad actors but just regular people) that enjoy this specific path and might be unhappy about losing it.
So you can vote for more than one poll answer if it's relevant too (like you enjoy the sub and dom paths both for example) Just give me an indication...thanks! I know the choices might not be perfect with mindset, but I am just trying to guess as best as I can...
Please note none of this remotely impacts the sub path, or the very evil paths on that side, as I frankly have had no issues (read: bad actors) on that at all.
And as I said, I hope to have the next version out by I hope this Friday! Thanks!



I play the dom path, and love the extreme evil dom path and would be greatly upset losing it.
13


I play the dom path, and like the extreme evil path, absolutely would miss it.
37


I play the dom path and don't care too much about the extreme evil path. I won't miss it too much.
31


I play the dom path and prefer the good path.
26


I play the dom path and prefer a more normal/dominant harem/romance gaining power Kane without extreme evil.
51


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub path, but love the extreme evil path.
1


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, but like the extreme evil path.
6


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, don't care about extreme evil path.
13


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, prefer good path.
12


I play dom path but primarily for secret sub, prefer normal assertive/dominant Kane gaining power/females path.
17


I play mostly/all sub path, but love the extreme evil dom path.
6


I play mostly/all sub path, but like the extreme evil dom path.
8


I play mostly/all sub path, but don't care about the extreme evil path.
18


I play mostly/all sub path, but prefer good dom path.
3


I play mostly/all sub path, but prefer normal Kane assertive/dominant harem/romance path.
6


I play mostly all/sub path, completely ignore the dom path except secret sub
23


I play mostly all/sub path, completely ignore dom path entirely.
14


Side ask from here o n down for research: I like the sub path, prefer more extreme content
36


I like the sub path, prefer a mix of extreme and gentle
38


I like the sub path, prefer a more gentle path generally

Personally, I'm fine with that. While I have been going more evil choices to unlock more Kane-Olivia content on the Dom path, there was a line Juliette presented in that Tess is referencing that I refused to cross. So, I do agree there's a certain level that is too far.

 

[PGpauljp13]

It's confirmed? Wow I guess there's no going around it. I really enjoyed the extreme content from the evil dom path. It's really disappointing but it is what it is

Those "bad" actors ruined one of my favorite vns

Hold your horses!,there is still 5 days left on poll!